Fresh Win 7 Installed OK but Not Working "Properly"

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  1. Posts : 1
    Windows 7 Pro x64
       #11

    I just installed 7 SP-1 on my "old asrock z97 extreme4 " with 4790K processor and everything went great. Installed Chrome, Edge and Firefox, and they all work great. Not sure I even need any updates, I don't do anything on this install but surf the internet.
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  2. Posts : 189
    64 bit Win 7 Ultimate
    Thread Starter
       #12

    SIW2 said:
    I already explained that an update is required for win7 windows update to work nowadays.
    You can install it manually by downloading it from microsoft.
    The 64 bit version is windows6.1-kb3138612-x64.msu
    Shockingly the 32 bit version is windows6.1-kb3138612-x86.msu
    https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/down....aspx?id=51208
    I also explained the importance of the sha 2 update
    The 64 bit version is windows6.1-kb4474419-v3-x64.msu
    Surprisingly, the 32 bit version is windows6.1-kb4474419-v3-x86.msu
    https://catalog.s.download.windowsup...1b3223bec6.msu
    kb4490629 x86installed
    kb3138612 X86 reported not applicable to your computer
    kb4474419-v3-X86 reported not applicaable
    sfc now reports "Windows resource protection could not start the repair service"
    SURT installs KB947821 and reports no errors (344 secs)

    I think I'll start over with the recommended distro. But I need to do some other stuff. Thanks for the help so far

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    RD Mercer said:
    I just installed 7 SP-1 on my "old asrock z97 extreme4 " with 4790K processor and everything went great. Installed Chrome, Edge and Firefox, and they all work great. Not sure I even need any updates, I don't do anything on this install but surf the internet.
    Lucky you I am surprised at my problems as I had no problem with a Win 7 install on an antique laptop a few years back.

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    OK progress but . . . :-(
    So I installed from the recommended ISO
    then Installed:
    1. kb3138612 (x86) - No problem. restarted
    2. kb4474419-v3 (x86) - No problem installing. BUT the computer wont restart Wont even go into safe mode.

    so I tried again installing
    kb3138612 (x86) as before and restarted
    kb4490628 (x86) because I read somewhere it is apparently needed
    kb4474419-v3 (x86) - Now the install process says "not applicable to this machine"
    Any suggestions?
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  4. Posts : 189
    64 bit Win 7 Ultimate
    Thread Starter
       #14

    Indeed. But all this says (in the summary at the end) is
    The following required updates must be installed and then the device restarted before installing any update released August 13, 2019 or later. The required updates can be installed in any order and do not need to be reinstalled, unless there is a new version of the required update.

    • Servicing stack update (SSU) (KB4490628). If you use Windows Update, the required SSU will be offered to you automatically
    • SHA-2 update (KB4474419) released September 10, 2019. If you use Windows Update, the required SHA-2 update will be offered to you automatically.

    and restart


    It does not tell you what to do if, aas reported above, the computer wont restart (without kb3138612) or says the KB is 'not applicable'. (with kb3138612)

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    For anyone else unwise enough to attempt this, the solution (to not booting) is - microsoftily obscure!.
    It seems that 447419 updates winload.exe - presumably to do with UEFI - and MS forgot to test it with legacy boot machines
    So 'all' you have to do is
    1. save a copy of winload.exe (497kb) somewhere
    2. install 447419
    3. replace the new copy of winload (c. 535kb) with the version you saved and the machine will (well did in my case) boot up properly
    (Taking ownership of the files away from trustedinstaller allows you to manipulate them)
    Another 2 days of my life stolen by MS!

    But sadly the problem is not over
    Now windows update reports error 80080005.
    SFC says Windows Resource Protetion cant start the repair serviceBut strangely? SURT reports no problems.

    I think maybe I should just trash the computer
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  5. Posts : 16,510
    7 X64
       #15

    Hadn't heard of that before.
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  6. Posts : 497
    Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bits
       #16

    Like I said in a previous post the Pentium III does not support SSE2. Most if not all Windows 7 updates starting in March 2018 require SSE2. The problem is the updates do not check for this and will simply cause Windows to crash. You have to do a system restore to recover from this.
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  7. Posts : 628
    Windows 7 x64 SP1
       #17

    No need to trash the computer if you can't solve it. Put something else on it. Linux. Or make a Hackintosh. There's even Chrome Flex, if you don't mind Google spying on you.
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  8. Posts : 16,510
    7 X64
       #18

    I have just tested

    official iso file x86 mbr partition style mechanical disk bios boot

    only the two updates and realtek net driver added.

    It works perfectly.

    Fresh Win 7 Installed OK but Not Working "Properly"-2024-12-11_232547.jpg

    Fresh Win 7 Installed OK but Not Working "Properly"-2024-12-11_232729.jpg

    Fresh Win 7 Installed OK but Not Working "Properly"-2024-12-11_233215.jpg

    it scanned for updates pretty quickly, only took 4 minutes or so.

    I am not using Pentium III which might be the cause of the OP's problem
    Last edited by SIW2; 12 Dec 2024 at 01:39.
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  9. Posts : 189
    64 bit Win 7 Ultimate
    Thread Starter
       #19

    Rincewindwiz said:
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    It seems that 447419 updates winload.exe - presumably to do with UEFI - and MS forgot to test it with legacy boot machines
    Not my dosovery. I meant to post the URL which is (https://www.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/co...g_please_read/)
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  10. Posts : 7,219
    W7 home premium 32bit/W7HP 64bit/w10 tp insider ring
       #20

    My August install on a MBR (legacy set-up) has all 3 of those updates
    (via Simplex)

    allthough it does have SSE2 support .... Intel core2 Duo T5800


    Re TLS

    Control Panel > Internet Options > ADVANCED... check tick box
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