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Windows 7: ENTIRE HDD Erased!

28 Dec 2009   #91
gamepro127

Windows 7 Enterprise x64
 
 

The reason why THIS person got infected is because he dident use his brain and installed programs such as "The ultimate virus" and a "Virutal Girl HD" Screensaver.


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28 Dec 2009   #92
zzz2496

Windows7 Ultimate 64bit
 
 

<sarcasm>

And while all of you discussing (or bickering...) things, the thread starter already did what he/she do best... Which is use illegal software all over again (Snow Leopard on a PC? With Win7 on another partition?? And Accompanying Adobe Software suite for Mac, which is as expensive as the Windows Version???), which in time will get back to him/her all over again...

What an irony...

Regards,

zzz2496

</sarcasm>

Cheers
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28 Dec 2009   #93
Lordbob75

Windows 7 Ultimate x64, Mint 9
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by InternetLord View Post
i am quite aware of what uac does and what zonealarm and counterspy does.
Apparently not.

If you did, you would not have made the statement about UAC.
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by InternetLord View Post
the idea of uac is for people who do not bother to scan files when they are downloaded
~Lordbob
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28 Dec 2009   #94
pparks1

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by zzz2496 View Post
<sarcasm>

And while all of you discussing (or bickering...) things, the thread starter already did what he/she do best... Which is use illegal software all over again (Snow Leopard on a PC? With Win7 on another partition?? And Accompanying Adobe Software suite for Mac, which is as expensive as the Windows Version???), which in time will get back to him/her all over again...

What an irony...

Regards,

zzz2496

</sarcasm>

Cheers
Yeah, I couldn't agree with you more completely. Irony is a funny thing. It is funny sometimes the number of problems people have that in the end might be traced right down to the software they are using and the methods used to obtain that software. And in the end, sometimes Microsoft takes the egg on the face when things don't seem to work right within their OS..even though they might not even have a single thing to do with the problem.
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28 Dec 2009   #95
InternetLord

Windows 7 Eternity Build 7600 RTM Activated x86
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Lordbob75 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by InternetLord View Post
i am quite aware of what uac does and what zonealarm and counterspy does.
Apparently not.

If you did, you would not have made the statement about UAC.
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by InternetLord View Post
the idea of uac is for people who do not bother to scan files when they are downloaded
~Lordbob
please talk about what you know and not what you don't. uac is meant to make the dumb stop and think before they proceed. over half the people using windows machines think they need nothing more than uac. the first time i used vista and left uac on and would get a prompt from it i would either get the same prompt from counterspy, zonealarm or both. after installing all of my drivers and software i finally realized i did not need uac running.
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28 Dec 2009   #96
pparks1

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by InternetLord View Post
over half the people using windows machines think they need nothing more than uac.
And all of would agree that this is the wrong assumption. Even worse, some believe that UAC is supposed to prevent malware/viruses/trojans from installing at all. I've even seen trade mags posting stories about how UAC doesn't stop a user from installing something nasty. Well, of course not...it's not supposed to.


Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by InternetLord View Post
the first time i used vista and left uac on and would get a prompt from it i would either get the same prompt from counterspy, zonealarm or both. after installing all of my drivers and software i finally realized i did not need uac running.
In your case, you probably don't need it running. However, I still don't agree with the general advice to simply turn off UAC, nor do I feel that it's necessary to replace UAC with something else.
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28 Dec 2009   #97
Tepid

Win 7 Ultimate 32bit
 
 

While UAC could use a some more improvements, it is not the end all be all of defense and security.

But by no means should people be instructed to turn it off cause they think it is worthless.
There are advantages to having it on. But am not listing them.

If you don't know what they are and you are instructing people to turn off UAC, then you are misinforming people with a service you know nothing about.
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28 Dec 2009   #98
Lordbob75

Windows 7 Ultimate x64, Mint 9
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by InternetLord View Post
please talk about what you know and not what you don't. uac is meant to make the dumb stop and think before they proceed. over half the people using windows machines think they need nothing more than uac. the first time i used vista and left uac on and would get a prompt from it i would either get the same prompt from counterspy, zonealarm or both. after installing all of my drivers and software i finally realized i did not need uac running.
You really have no idea what UAC does do you?

Here:
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Microsoft TechNet
What is User Account Control?

User Account Control (UAC) is a new security component in Windows Vista. UAC enables users to perform common tasks as non-administrators, called standard users in Windows Vista, and as administrators without having to switch users, log off, or use Run As. A standard user account is synonymous with a user account in Windows XP. User accounts that are members of the local Administrators group will run most applications as a standard user. By separating user and administrator functions while enabling productivity, UAC is an important enhancement for Windows Vista.


When an administrator logs on to a computer running Windows Vista, the user is assigned two separate access tokens. Access tokens, which contain a user's group membership and authorization and access control data, are used by Windows® to control what resources and tasks the user can access. Before Windows Vista, an administrator account received only one access token, which included data to grant the user access to all Windows resources. This access control model did not include any failsafe checks to ensure that users truly wanted to perform a task that required their administrative access token. As a result, malicious software could install on users' computers without notifying the users. (This is sometimes referred to as "silent" installation.)
Even more damaging, because the user is an administrator, the malicious software could use the administrator's access control data to infect core operating system files and, in some instances, to become nearly impossible to remove.
The primary difference between a standard user and an administrator in Windows Vista is the level of access the user has over core, protected areas of the computer. Administrators can change system state, turn off the firewall, configure security policy, install a service or a driver that affects every user on the computer, and install software for the entire computer. Standard users cannot perform these tasks and can only install per-user software.
To help prevent malicious software from silently installing and causing computer-wide infection, Microsoft developed the UAC feature. Unlike previous versions of Windows, when an administrator logs on to a computer running Windows Vista, the user’s full administrator access token is split into two access tokens: a full administrator access token and a standard user access token. During the logon process, authorization and access control components that identify an administrator are removed, resulting in a standard user access token. The standard user access token is then used to start the desktop, the Explorer.exe process. Because all applications inherit their access control data from the initial launch of the desktop, they all run as a standard user as well.
After an administrator logs on, the full administrator access token is not invoked until the user attempts to perform an administrative task.
Contrasting with this process, when a standard user logs on, only a standard user access token is created. This standard user access token is then used to start the desktop.
Source: User Account Control Step-by-Step Guide


Don't argue about something you obviously don't know about.


~Lordbob

P.S. While I did agree with John removing Negative Rep, it is situations like this where I believe it would be beneficial. I will not tolerate advice so wrong it could seriously cause trouble.
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28 Dec 2009   #99
InternetLord

Windows 7 Eternity Build 7600 RTM Activated x86
 
 

as stated below i do full well know what i am talking about. i even tested this in 7 to be sure that it still held true, and it does.

please talk about what you know and not what you don't. uac is meant to make the dumb stop and think before they proceed. over half the people using windows machines think they need nothing more than uac. the first time i used vista and left uac on and would get a prompt from it i would either get the same prompt from counterspy, zonealarm or both. after installing all of my drivers and software i finally realized i did not need uac running.
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28 Dec 2009   #100
Lordbob75

Windows 7 Ultimate x64, Mint 9
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by InternetLord View Post
uac is meant to make the dumb stop and think before they proceed.
I am done with this.

Keep your ignorance, I have no desire for it.

~Lordbob
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