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Windows 7: Windows wouldn't boot up, but now does. What happened?

15 Dec 2009   #11

7 x64 Ultimate

No help to you, but there does seem to be a rash of issues with 1TB drives.

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15 Dec 2009   #12

Windows 7 Eternity Build 7600 RTM Activated x86

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by TimStitt View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
No, you want to download and burn to CD the DOS version of your HD manufacturer's diagnostics and repair utility. It is not run from Windows, but booted and scans the connected HD.

There are no system specs given in the link at the bottom right of the post, so what is your HD?

Find the maker, go to their website Support Downloads page for your model HD and download the Diagnostics.

If none are given, try Western Digital's Lifeguard as it works on most: WD Support > Downloads > EIDE (PATA) > WD Caviar Blue
I'm also a fan of WD's lifeguard and it has saved me more than a few times too, it's good advice!

From my understanding though Sam is unable to boot even as far as bios with this disk in, so won't get as far as boot from CD.

@ Sam - In regards to the question 'will you fry your motherboard', perhaps. I would never connect IDE drives while the PC is on. But I have connected SATA drives this way (not the power cablem just the communication cable). As a rule though, I am not recommending this.

Some last thoughts (to try to save you the cost of an external case)
- Try the drive in another port. e.g. If sata 1, try sata 0, if IDE 1, try IDE 0
- Swap it with the cable and power connector from the working drive
(but be aware that if the cables are faulty and you use them on the good drive you may cause damage, so just plug the faulty drive in with the other cables and see if you can reach the bios, this should rule out faulty cables).
no it will not fry the mobo. it is that some mobo's for some reason will not allow you even into the bios with a bad hard drive. the first thing i would do if you are use to setting up your bois is to reset it to the default settings, shut down the system, hook the bad drive back up and restart to see if you can now at least get to the bios. if you can get into the bios do a restart before changing anything and see if you can boot into windows, or at this point try to run the wd tools. if you can get into windows and can see the drive and you have access to your data then i would restart go back into the bios and adjust the setting to what you had before, then do a restart to see if the system will still boot(sometimes a simple bios reset and resetup is all it takes). if you cannot see the drive once in windows then i would shut down change the data cable, swap the sata / ide port the drive is plugged into, or switch the power connector. if this fails then check you warranty.

please update all your system specs. we know what os you are running, but we know nothing about your mobo. it sounds like the mobo is the issue. even some of the newer mobo's need bios updates to handle that big of a drive. other mobo's require you to set the bios settings differently for 1tb and above than you do for anything under 1tb. i would trust that there is nothing wrong with the drive because it passed the SMART. SMART is rarely wrong.
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15 Dec 2009   #13
Sam Saints

Windows 7 64 Bit

Ok, I am running:

Windows 7 Ultimate 64 Bit
Intel Core 2 Due 3GHz
Asus P5Q MoBo
GeForce 9400 GT Video Card

What I don't understand is that this was all running fine for months and now it just all stops working. What settings are you referring to in the BIOS that requires changing for 1 TB drives?
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15 Dec 2009   #14

Windows 7 Eternity Build 7600 RTM Activated x86

you will have to refer to your manual to see if you have to adjust any bios setting for your drive.
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15 Dec 2009   #15

Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
Someone can correct me if I'm wrong but I believe Lifeguard CD like Paragon or Acronis is self-booting. It just starts.

If not, put the problem drive in another PC and run it there.
Hi-ya Gregrocker,

They are self booting! What I was trying to say is that I think the fail point was 'before' the boot from cd point.
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15 Dec 2009   #16

Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit

The general consensus is hardware failure at some point, I'm leaning that way; but I'm not 100% convinced as yet. Did you check the drivers? Confirm that the latest sata and chipset drivers are installed from the manufacturers website (not MS update). It's probably worthwhile updating them all.)ASUSTeK Computer Inc.-Support-

What wattage power supply are you using (lets rule this out too)?

If it's still a fail, look over the bios settings for any recommendeded configuration changes (as InternetLord suggested). NOTE: Disabling ahci in the bios should force the drives to reconfigure in legacy mode, this may be worth a try too, although I've never tested it FYI - (enabling RAID probably enables ahci by default)
Low on my list is a reformat (and chkdsk), given that data is recovered and the drive is now recognised.
Good Luck!
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15 Dec 2009   #17

Windows 7 Ultimate x86-64

Check the connections - did you use the SATA cables that came with your motherboard? THe one I used was L shaped and fits into the hard drive perfectly. As for settings, 2009 era motherboards should have no problems with detecting your hard drive - which channel does your report the hard drive is connected? You can then set the sectors, block size, LBA options etc manually or leave them to Auto (Default).
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15 Dec 2009   #18

Vista Ultimate X64/ Windows 7 Dual-boot

Just re-read this post...

I decided to plug in the Sata cable from Drive 2 while windows is booted up.
I'm amazed either drive works right now after having done this...
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15 Dec 2009   #19
Sam Saints

Windows 7 64 Bit

So I have updated sata and chipset drivers directly from Asus. Didn't do any good. I am running a 600W Power Supply. So if the hard drive is bad, why is it when I connect it while windows is fully booted up and I do a scan for new hardware it gets recognized and works. What is it about a hard drive that would stop a computer to even get to the POST. Especially when it is only a second drive and not the boot drive. I am sure all cables and connections are good. I was always under the impression if a BIOS routine doesn't even finish or begin (in my case), it is always hardware related.
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15 Dec 2009   #20
Microsoft MVP


Never plug cables while power is on, or power cord is connected.

It will catch up with ya quickly.
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