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Windows 7: I hate the "Libraries" bring back "My Computer"

30 Jan 2010   #21
sbrads

Windows 7
 
 

I thought that Libraries could be handy and started to use them last week, putting all my photos and music from other internal drives into them. A BIG problem I found was that my Win7 Backup shot up in size to a ridiculous figure. I already have a backup system in place for data, so this was a bad move and I'm going to have to look into how to sort it out. A warning might have been appreciated, I don't remember seeing any.


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30 Jan 2010   #22
seekermeister

W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE
 
 

I admit that I have not read this thread in detail, so I may have missed the point, because a person can move any library to another partition or drive, so it would seem that would eliminate the loss of data due to a corrupted OS. I have not tried moving them to external drives, so I don't know if that entails any certain issues or not. The only thing that I think was a problem was when I attempted to use the built-in backup feature, it kept freezing part of the way through, and I have a feeling that was due to the dislocation of the libraries. I solved that by using a different backup utility.

I have never expected any Windows OS to always meet my expectations, or perhaps I should say "hopes", nor do I expect that any version in the future ever will, so I only think in terms of comparison to what I have had in the past, and by that measure, W7 does quite well. Instead of thinking about any negative aspects of the changes, I simply try to adapt, and after doing so, I'm usually happy with things as they are.
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30 Jan 2010   #23
sbrads

Windows 7
 
 

Enough's enough of Libraries, it's clunky and a deadly slow way of working as it confuses me trying work out where files REALLY are (I'm easily confused). When I kept getting asked to open something when I was trying to save that was the point when I gave up.

I've taken all my folders out of Libraries and reverted to a simple My Docs etc. folder structure with an xxcopy 64 bit DOS type backup of data to another drive which is a blindingly fast method, double click on a shortcut and any new files are added to the backup folder in literally a second if there isn't much and as quick as your drives can manage if there's a lot. Libraries could be a good idea if it were more logical or if someone could point out a real advantage and a good workflow to use it effectively.
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30 Jan 2010   #24
MacGyvr

Windows 7 Ultimate RTM (Technet)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by sbrads View Post
Enough's enough of Libraries, it's clunky and a deadly slow way of working as it confuses me trying work out where files REALLY are (I'm easily confused). When I kept getting asked to open something when I was trying to save that was the point when I gave up.

I've taken all my folders out of Libraries and reverted to a simple My Docs etc. folder structure with an xxcopy 64 bit DOS type backup of data to another drive which is a blindingly fast method, double click on a shortcut and any new files are added to the backup folder in literally a second if there isn't much and as quick as your drives can manage if there's a lot. Libraries could be a good idea if it were more logical or if someone could point out a real advantage and a good workflow to use it effectively.
Why does it matter where the files "really" are???
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30 Jan 2010   #25
Capella

Windows 7 64 bit build 7600
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by sbrads View Post
Enough's enough of Libraries, it's clunky and a deadly slow way of working as it confuses me trying work out where files REALLY are (I'm easily confused). When I kept getting asked to open something when I was trying to save that was the point when I gave up.

I've taken all my folders out of Libraries and reverted to a simple My Docs etc. folder structure with an xxcopy 64 bit DOS type backup of data to another drive which is a blindingly fast method, double click on a shortcut and any new files are added to the backup folder in literally a second if there isn't much and as quick as your drives can manage if there's a lot. Libraries could be a good idea if it were more logical or if someone could point out a real advantage and a good workflow to use it effectively.
you know, in libraries, there is a default save location. That means, if you saved a document to the document library, it doesn't actually save to the library. It saves it to your default save location (you my document folder). This is why it is so awesome because you see all your documents from various folders but saving them causes them to be clumped in one good location. You can also change the default save folder
Cheers~!
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30 Jan 2010   #26
Muad Dib

XP Pro & Vista Home Premium (x86); Windows Ultimate 7600 x64 Retail
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by antt View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by chev65 View Post
You can exclude or include any folder you want from library's. It's the best thing since sliced bread in my book.

Library - Include a Folder
But you can't include a folder but exclude a folder that is contained within that folder. Say I wanted to include all of the 'Pictures' folder, but exclude a folder contained within that pictures folder. Windows does not allow for that behaviour.
I think that is the behaviour that the OP was asking for, when he said 'Nothing. Except I personally don't want everything in a library.'
Include a folder but exclude one of its subfolders? And you can do that with the "My Computer" old Explorer view? How? Sounds like he needs to move that subfolder to anothet location, in which case it would not be in the Library view either.

The Library feature solves a problem that existed since Win 3.1, a single view of multiple folders on multiple devices that is user configurable. It also enables easy searching of the same.

If you don't like it don't use it. Plop a My Computer shortcut on the desktop or in the Taskbar and be done with it.
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30 Jan 2010   #27
Muad Dib

XP Pro & Vista Home Premium (x86); Windows Ultimate 7600 x64 Retail
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by sbrads View Post
Enough's enough of Libraries, it's clunky and a deadly slow way of working as it confuses me trying work out where files REALLY are (I'm easily confused). When I kept getting asked to open something when I was trying to save that was the point when I gave up.

I've taken all my folders out of Libraries and reverted to a simple My Docs etc. folder structure with an xxcopy 64 bit DOS type backup of data to another drive which is a blindingly fast method, double click on a shortcut and any new files are added to the backup folder in literally a second if there isn't much and as quick as your drives can manage if there's a lot. Libraries could be a good idea if it were more logical or if someone could point out a real advantage and a good workflow to use it effectively.
Change your ARRANGE BY setting to FOLDER... no, better stay with what makes you comfortable.
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30 Jan 2010   #28
garysgold

Vista Ult 64 bit Seven Ult RTM x64
 
 

A ton of tutorials here. Windows 7 - Tutorial Index
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30 Jan 2010   #29
unifex

Windows 7 Ultimate (x64)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by MacGyvr View Post

Why does it matter where the files "really" are???
Well, suppose the data is spread across several hard drives, including external drives. One day I want to take some of the files with me. Would be quite useful to know, which external drive are they on, right? Especially if "taking them with me" basically means slipping the external drive into my bag.

Now, more to the point of the thread, I do not understand people's frustration with libraries. I understand that some people do not like using them. I have only recently started using them myself. I found them to be useful for the multitude of photos on my computer, but at the same time they don't help me with my work at all.

But, the good thing about them - libraries are not real files, just links, so if you don't like them - don't use them, that's all there is to it! If you are so frustrated with the extra line in the navigation pane, then use Brink's tutorial and remove it.

If you are frustrated that explorer opens in libraries by default, then simply point your shortcut to %windir%\explorer.exe /n,/e, E:\home or whatever your favorite folder (instead of E:\home) - it will automatically go there when you click on the shortcut.

Organizing your data is your personal task. Everybody has their favorite way of doing this, there are no universal recipes - it all depends on what data, how much data, how do you like accessing your data, etc. Libraries is just one of the new ways to do this. Nobody forces you to use them.
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30 Jan 2010   #30
Grimmjow

Windows 7 Ultimate x32
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by unifex View Post
Well, suppose the data is spread across several hard drives, including external drives. One day I want to take some of the files with me. Would be quite useful to know, which external drive are they on, right? Especially if "taking them with me" basically means slipping the external drive into my bag.
Well...We can see where our files are with one or two clicks...
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Libraries are handy shortcut to our files, that's my opinion


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