deleting vista. not that easy???

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  1. Posts : 29
    Windows 7 64 bit
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       #11

    ok. computer wont load windows 7. as suspected 'bootmgr is missing' on startup.

    ive got vista 32 and want to upgrade to 64 bit 7. for the reason you mentioned. more memory. got much more than 4gb of ram, which is wasted in a 32bit o/s.

    not sure that would work. my o/s's are not partitioned at all. they are on seperate hard drives and both completely open. i have 7 on the slave and want to wipe the master with vista and then switch master/.slave so the larger hd holds o/s program files etc and the smalller slave is a backup.

    a screenshot as it stands at the moment......

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  2. Dom
    Posts : 2,295
    Windows Seven Ultimate
       #12

    Ok, i honestly don't know what do with your needs
    maybe its time someone with more expertise should handle this
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  3. Posts : 29
    Windows 7 64 bit
    Thread Starter
       #13

    domii123 said:
    Ok, i honestly don't know what do with your needs
    maybe its time someone with more expertise should handle this
    ok mate. thanks for the replies though. there must be someone out there who has done this. or has enough know how to overcome the problem.
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  4. Posts : 1,797
    Windows 7 Ulti. x64
       #14

    theblueflash said:
    domii123 said:
    Ok, i honestly don't know what do with your needs
    maybe its time someone with more expertise should handle this
    ok mate. thanks for the replies though. there must be someone out there who has done this. or has enough know how to overcome the problem.
    Ok you say you have copied to an external drive. right? Then can you take your vista disk out of your pc and put it in your external drive inclosure? If so then can you replace disc 0 with disc 1 and boot from the 7 install dvd and run start up repair 3 times to make 7 bootable? After 7 becomes system active then plug your external drive in after you have booted and see if you can delete vista.
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  5. Posts : 29
    Windows 7 64 bit
    Thread Starter
       #15

    myzr7 said:
    theblueflash said:
    domii123 said:
    Ok, i honestly don't know what do with your needs
    maybe its time someone with more expertise should handle this
    ok mate. thanks for the replies though. there must be someone out there who has done this. or has enough know how to overcome the problem.
    Ok you say you have copied to an external drive. right? Then can you take your vista disk out of your pc and put it in your external drive inclosure? If so then can you replace disc 0 with disc 1 and boot from the 7 install dvd and run start up repair 3 times to make 7 bootable? After 7 becomes system active then plug your external drive in after you have booted and see if you can delete vista.
    thats just data files that are copied. and only to an external hard drive. just to make double safe i dont lose anything important while i attempt to upgrade.
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  6. Posts : 13
    Windows 7 Home Premium RTM x64
       #16

    I only read a few replies, so I'll try not to be redundant. From what I can understand, you want to have two hard drives. The 320 GB Vista drive is for backup now. Vista has been backed up it seems and you have everything you need. Now you want the 320 GB drive cleaned? Thats my interpretation... I don't know if thats exactly what needs to happen but heres how to do that.

    Boot into Windows 7, and launch disk management (diskmgmt.msc). Now find the logical disk with the files on it that you do not want. Right-click, "Format." Choose NTFS, and let it do its thing.

    If that doesn't work, boot off of a GPARTED live disk and format it there.
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  7. Posts : 29
    Windows 7 64 bit
    Thread Starter
       #17

    this isnt possible. if i right click c: drive with vista on it there is no option to format. im guessing now the more i read on the subject that i cannot format a primary drive?

    if im on the right lines can somebody please tell me how to do this. im about to take a hammer to my hard drive and just buy a new one. god i hate vista!!!!!!!!!
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  8. Posts : 4,466
    Windows 10 Education 64 bit
       #18

    theblueflash said:
    yea i get the option on startup of 7 or vista o/s. why would win 7 install boot loader on the master drive when i designate the slave for the installation?? thats just crazy. surely if i had a barebones computer with no o/s installed and stuck the disc in it would be fine??

    i can try unplugging the master drive and seeing if 7 will boot. will try it now. check the horizon for fireworks..........
    Thats the way a dual boot works if you let windows set it up. Windows 7 detected windows Vista and setup the dual boot for you. It replaces the Vista boot loader that is on your primary drive with its boot loader and adds Vista as an option. If it put its boot loader on the secondary drive your PC would have no way of finding it because the BIOS will look for the OS on the primary hard drive with the active partition. You would always boot into Vista. If you had unplugged the Vista drive then installed Windows 7 it would have put the boot loader on the same drive it was installed to. A clean install not a dual boot. You would then have to select which drive to boot to in the BIOS. I'm not experienced enough with windows 7/vista to know how to fix it. If it was me I would just start over with the one drive I wanted 7 on installed and do a clean install. After saveing any files I wanted to keep that is.
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  9. Posts : 29
    Windows 7 64 bit
    Thread Starter
       #19

    thats clearer thanks. will reinstall 7 on the 2nd hard drive without the primary powered and adjust bios settings to boot prefered o/s. will then try formatting vista hard drive to erase it that way. cheers
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  10. Dom
    Posts : 2,295
    Windows Seven Ultimate
       #20

    I had a brain wave overnight

    We just need to sort out the Windows.old folder.
    What does it say when you try to Copy + paste to the separate hard drive?
    maybe you could take ownership (Take Ownership Shortcut) of the windows.old folder, then copy paste the whole thing over to the slave drive. then you would extract the stuff you want on the same hdd, with no errors trying to do it over 2.

    Dom.
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