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Windows 7: Should I get suspicious?

12 Mar 2009   #11
YupYup

Win 7
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by garysgold View Post
I thought it was common knowledge that the beta is sending info to MS. Part of the EULA



It does say you can turn it all off further down.


Gary
I was working under the assumption that he knew this and was asking

1.If this was normal behavior for sending that info or should he be wary that data was being sent elsewhere (ie modified build from an unknown source)

2.Or should he be suspicious of what data was being sent to microsoft.

So clearly for #1 the data is being sent to MS so no worries someone else is receiving the data. As for #2 i personally don't care what info is sent but then again thats just me, some people don't like to give them anything.


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12 Mar 2009   #12
limneos

Windows 7 RC 7100 32bit/64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by garysgold
It does say you can turn it all off further down.
That explains a lot At least some people read the whole EULA.

Thank you.
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12 Mar 2009   #13
limneos

Windows 7 RC 7100 32bit/64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by YupYup View Post
I was working under the assumption that he knew this and was asking

1.If this was normal behavior for sending that info or should he be wary that data was being sent elsewhere (ie modified build from an unknown source)

2.Or should he be suspicious of what data was being sent to microsoft.

So clearly for #1 the data is being sent to MS so no worries someone else is receiving the data. As for #2 i personally don't care what info is sent but then again thats just me, some people don't like to give them anything.
I don't mind either, as far as I'm concerned they can have everything sent, I was just curious to know if data is sent because there are so many privacy statements for almost everything declaring that "no personal data is sent" as in Feedback, Error Reports, Help Improve Windows etc. So if in all these there was nothing sent, it would be strange for something being sent silently in the background. Of course , since it's delcared in the EULA, it's all settled.
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12 Mar 2009   #14
swarfega

Windows 7 Professional 64-bit
 
 

Did you install the Windows Live Toolbar?

Another possibility is ticked the microsoft improvement programme.
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12 Mar 2009   #15
YupYup

Win 7
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by limneos View Post
I don't mind either, as far as I'm concerned they can have everything sent, I was just curious to know if data is sent because there are so many privacy statements for almost everything declaring that "no personal data is sent" as in Feedback, Error Reports, Help Improve Windows etc. So if in all these there was nothing sent, it would be strange for something being sent silently in the background. Of course , since it's delcared in the EULA, it's all settled.
Roger, BTW "no personal data is sent" only applies to personal data, all other data will be sent unless disabled.
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13 Mar 2009   #16
Smashy

Vista Enterprise x64 SP1
 
 

Yes, of course, lets all install Windows 7, allow it to send information/feedback about programs we use and then complain when it sends information!

I'm guessing IE is just sending information about the system you're using it on and if it's running stable or not? Wonder if you could get a sniffer on it and find out what's in the packets Havent done that in while so not sure.
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13 Mar 2009   #17
limneos

Windows 7 RC 7100 32bit/64bit
 
 

Nobody complains, it's more a curiosity thing rather than a complaint.
There might be indeed a performace report or anything. Its just I never saw this before, I've used other sniffers in the past, and it was a new one that got my attention.

Perhaps we should close this thread as it might bring up mistaken conspiracy theories or be misleading for others.
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13 Mar 2009   #18
garysgold

Vista Ult 64 bit Seven Ult RTM x64
 
 

Don't see any conspiracy. What is the point of giving out a beta unless your going to get some info back. I'm surprised at the number of send feedbacks MS says it got. Can't remember for sure, a senior moment, but only a million or two out of how many million downloads. I've sent a dozen at least. I know there are many here that have sent several. Why run a Beta anything if your not going to send in your comments. To me it's part of the deal. Just MHO.

Was just wondering what % of the total feedbacks came from the folks that hang out around here.

Gary
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13 Mar 2009   #19
Smashy

Vista Enterprise x64 SP1
 
 

I downloaded Windows 7000 twice from their site, downloaded build 7048 twice and I didn't send in any feedback, feels like a waste to send "all is well" because the minor problems I had were driver related and nothing Microsoft can fix.
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13 Mar 2009   #20
Barman58

Windows 10 Pro x64 x2 Windows 10 Enterprise x64, Ubuntu
 
 

I believe it's the automatic telemetry that is the most important to Microsoft, which everyone agreed to when installing the beta, even those that never read the EULA.

The send feedback link and the other direct methods, on Connect and the like, are important, and from the information on the Microsoft blogs it seems that this is being taken into account as can be seen from the RC changes.

The automatic feedback that Microsoft gets without the user being involved is what the programmers need. The fact that "WMP crashes with driver x and running program B on Thursdays" will mean that the final release is the OS we all want.

I for one have no problem with Microsoft taking this information from my installs as I want Windows 7 to be the best it can be
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