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Windows 7: Windows 7: Excellent except for 3 "issues"

15 Jan 2010   #21
patio

Vista Ultimate X64/ Windows 7 Dual-boot
 
 

I haven't experienced any of the 3 listed glitches...


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18 Jan 2010   #22
Ed Bradford

Windows 7
 
 

RE FireFox. I am running (this is entered with) FF 3.5.7. I don't exit it. Right now, it's the 4-th biggest
virtual size behind
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18 Jan 2010   #23
Muad Dib

XP Pro & Vista Home Premium (x86); Windows Ultimate 7600 x64 Retail
 
 

Why do you need to have 4 different browsers open?

Also, there is no need to keep everything open all the time with Win7. Its memory managment is better. Tasks are placed into standby memory, when it is available, and not paged to the disk. The second time you open a task after a hard boot it will open faster.

I doubt there are many users who feel the need to keep 25 applications open at the same time over a week long period. Your PC may be underpowered for this. In particular your specs list only 3GB of memory. See previous point.

As to the drag and drop. Yes it can be irritating. I often use the explorer address bar as the drop target to avoid ambiguity. It depends on what I am doing....

Also, I tell my users, especially those with laptops that use hibernation, to do a hard boot once a week whether they need to or not. They are not 24/7 server operators and Win7 is not a server OS.

Edit: Problem #1 as described indicates there is a system problem. Try closing your apps down to a more manageable number and see if that reduces the problem. If not you have something else wrong.
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18 Jan 2010   #24
unifex

Windows 7 Ultimate (x64)
 
 

I've never had #1 or #2. #3 is more of a habit thing - indeed the explorer tree would expand if you hover the mouse on it, but that's not a glitch, it's there by design. So if you want to drag and drop there you either should do it fast, or wait till it expands as was already suggested.

I've got FF 3.5.7 32 bit and 3.5.6 64 bit. Never a problem, even though sometimes I have lots of tabs and keep both of them open for the whole day. They rarely exceed 300 MB in memory use and that's OK with me.

I would suggest monitoring memory use - either by installing some simple meter, or procexp.exe, or just the task manager's resource monitor. Also you may try ReadyBoost and see if this helps.

In addition you may want to try and check your system capabilities by running some benchmarks. My experience is that some computers are just slow - I have a Sony laptop with XP for example - and the thing can only be used by one application at a time.
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19 Jan 2010   #25
s0c9

Win7 x64 Ultimate
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by unifex View Post
I've never had #1 or #2. #3 is more of a habit thing - indeed the explorer tree would expand if you hover the mouse on it, but that's not a glitch, it's there by design. So if you want to drag and drop there you either should do it fast, or wait till it expands as was already suggested.

I've got FF 3.5.7 32 bit and 3.5.6 64 bit. Never a problem, even though sometimes I have lots of tabs and keep both of them open for the whole day. They rarely exceed 300 MB in memory use and that's OK with me.

I would suggest monitoring memory use - either by installing some simple meter, or procexp.exe, or just the task manager's resource monitor. Also you may try ReadyBoost and see if this helps.

In addition you may want to try and check your system capabilities by running some benchmarks. My experience is that some computers are just slow - I have a Sony laptop with XP for example - and the thing can only be used by one application at a time.
Done most of the above.. FF [32-bit] is what I use. I don't run the 64-bit version as there are no 64-bit browser plugins for Flash, Adobe Reader, Shockwave, yada,yada, yada. I forget the exact numbers, but it acts like there's a memory leak. I'll go revist - using latest version - when I get the chance. Chrome isn't a whole lot better.... and I keep multiple tabs in multiple windows open.. 'cus I track multiple forums [like this one]. I never had the memory issue w/ FF [x32] on my XP 64 system. Works fine.. [dual-boot PC BTW]
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19 Jan 2010   #26
stangbat

Windows 7 Professional 64
 
 

#3 is my main gripe about Win 7. I guess you could say that if it is my main gripe, I'm lucky because it could be worse. But it is really annoying. And no, this is not just an issue of the tree expanding when you drag something over it. It is the selected folder jumping to the bottom of the view.

Some discussion of it:

Strange folder behavior in left pane of Windows Explorer

W7 Jumping To Bottom Browser When clicking on Folders

Windows explorer tree view expands at the bottom, not at the top as it used to be
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19 Jan 2010   #27
Muad Dib

XP Pro & Vista Home Premium (x86); Windows Ultimate 7600 x64 Retail
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by stangbat View Post
#3 is my main gripe about Win 7. I guess you could say that if it is my main gripe, I'm lucky because it could be worse. But it is really annoying. And no, this is not just an issue of the tree expanding when you drag something over it. It is the selected folder jumping to the bottom of the view.

Some discussion of it:

Strange folder behavior in left pane of Windows Explorer

W7 Jumping To Bottom Browser When clicking on Folders

Windows explorer tree view expands at the bottom, not at the top as it used to be
But the Explorer address bar does not jump around. So if the target folder is in selected, and as a result in the Explorer address bar I just drag and drop the selected files/folder onto the target in the address bar. I know this is not the "good" answer, just my workaround.

I had thought I was the only one being annoyed by this. Misery loves company....
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19 Jan 2010   #28
stangbat

Windows 7 Professional 64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Muad Dib View Post
But the Explorer address bar does not jump around. So if the target folder is in selected, and as a result in the Explorer address bar I just drag and drop the selected files/folder onto the target in the address bar. I know this is not the "good" answer, just my workaround.

I had thought I was the only one being annoyed by this. Misery loves company....
Yes, but I use the left pane to drill down the tree and find the folder I want. It is annoying when you expand the folder and it jumps to the bottom of the pane. Your solution works when dragging and dropping, but it doesn't help when you are using the tree to browse nested folders.

I just hope that this will be fixed in SP1. I'm not holding my breath since it was griped about a year ago when the RCs went public, if not earlier. Here we are with RTM and the same annoying behavior.
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19 Jan 2010   #29
seekermeister

W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE
 
 

stangbat,

Quote:
I just hope that this will be fixed in SP1. I'm not holding my breath since it was griped about a year ago when the RCs went public, if not earlier. Here we are with RTM and the same annoying behavior.
If you would prefer not to hold your breath, you could do as I do, and use a third party file manager. I use 2xExplorer, which doesn't have this problem, plus it is dual paned.
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19 Jan 2010   #30
Muad Dib

XP Pro & Vista Home Premium (x86); Windows Ultimate 7600 x64 Retail
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by stangbat View Post
I just hope that this will be fixed in SP1. I'm not holding my breath since it was griped about a year ago when the RCs went public, if not earlier. Here we are with RTM and the same annoying behavior.
I agree, I agree....

Annoying thing (for me) that they know about and have said they will not fix....

When "Add to Favorites" is selected in IE8 more than once IE8 does not remember the previous "Add to Favorites" folder selection. Simple things - so annoying....
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