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Windows 7: Wrong dates on folders / Windows Explorer

17 Jan 2010   #11
sylvialdgsd

Windows 7
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Crispy View Post
When you are saying that "edited some of the files in that folder a few days ago" are you trying to modify a file that was created in 2008 and the date for that file is it saying the created date or the modified date is 2008?
What I'm saying is that no matter what I do in a folder (including in the C, the date of the "date modified" of the folder remains unchanged.


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17 Jan 2010   #12
TimStitt

Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by sylvialdgsd View Post
Nothing happens if I rename a file or a folder. Weird...
Sylvia
To clarify, if you rename the TUTS FRENCH folder, it's date modified does not change? Is this correct?

I checked on my system and if I change the files inside the folders the date modified doesn't change for the folder; but if I rename the folder the date modified changes.

Some other thoughts:
- Particular programs effect date modified differently, please try to change the files with at least two different programs (e.g. Paint, word)
- I have a script that I wrote to ensure that I have access to secondary drives on my system. It was designed to give me access in Windows 7 when all items on the drive appeared as read only (this happens sometimes on new installs). As it is permission related it may help for your situation, it may also do nothing ; but I will post it if you want to try it.
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17 Jan 2010   #13
MacGyvr

Windows 7 Ultimate RTM (Technet)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by sylvialdgsd View Post
Thanks for your quick reply, Crispy.
I have modified the files a few times but it still displays a 2008 modified date on the folder.
Sylvia
The date of the folder is not supposed to reflect changes to the files inside the folder.
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17 Jan 2010   #14
TimStitt

Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by MacGyvr View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by sylvialdgsd View Post
Thanks for your quick reply, Crispy.
I have modified the files a few times but it still displays a 2008 modified date on the folder.
Sylvia
The date of the folder is not supposed to reflect changes to the files inside the folder.
Thanks for clarifying MacGyvr, this is exactly what I hoped my test would prove (and it did). I just needed someone else to agree and prove that my system did not also have a problem.
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17 Jan 2010   #15
sylvialdgsd

Windows 7
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by TimStitt View Post
To clarify, if you rename the TUTS FRENCH folder, it's date modified does not change? Is this correct?
Yes.

Quote:
- Particular programs effect date modified differently, please try to change the files with at least two different programs (e.g. Paint, word)
No luck either...

Quote:
- I have a script that I wrote to ensure that I have access to secondary drives on my system. It was designed to give me access in Windows 7 when all items on the drive appeared as read only (this happens sometimes on new installs). As it is permission related it may help for your situation, it may also do nothing ; but I will post it if you want to try it.
Sure, why not? You never know. Thanks!
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17 Jan 2010   #16
TimStitt

Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

Here are two permission related scripts.

Take Ownership
- In this zip file are an install and remove file for this feature. When installed you can right click on any folder/file and take full ownership of it (providing that you have an administrator account)

Clear Read-only on Drives
-When Run as an elevated Administrator it clears the Read only attributes on your hard drives and gives you a report.

Good luck.
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A synopsis of our findings so far on your issue
Correct me if I am wrong
  • The modified date for a folder does not change, even when it is renamed
  • The modified dates for files also do not change
  • We recognise that if files are changed within a folder, this will not change the modified date of the folder.
  • Regional settings, bios times, bios battery are all a-ok
  • The modified date issue is not due to sole use of a 3rd party program (i.e. it occurs in a variety of file change methods, such as a file edited in WORD or PAINT)


Attached Files
File Type: zip WINDOWS - TAKE_OWNERSHIP.zip (614 Bytes, 38 views)
File Type: bat CLEAR_READONLY_ON_DRIVES.bat (4.8 KB, 39 views)
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17 Jan 2010   #17
sylvialdgsd

Windows 7
 
 

Thanks for the scripts, TimStitt
I just ran it, and here's the text that showed up:
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DISKPART LIST OF DRIVES 17/Jan/10
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If this Log is blank, try running the batch from an elevated CMD prompt

Microsoft DiskPart version 6.1.7600
Copyright (C) 1999-2008 Microsoft Corporation.
On computer: SYLVIA-PC

DiskPart was unable to open or read the script file.
Make sure the file you specified exists.


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PLEASE REVIEW THIS LOG

NOTE1: It is expected that any DVD drives and the System drive
will FAIL the attempt to change their attributes, these should be ignored.

NOTE2: In testing this script it was noted that when diskPart is used repeatedly

Quote:
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A synopsis of our findings so far on your issue
Correct me if I am wrong
  • The modified date for a folder does not change, even when it is renamed
I just found out it happens only in my D. My C and E partitions are OK. I thought the C was doing the same thing but no.
  • The modified dates for files also do not change No, they change.
  • We recognise that if files are changed within a folder, this will not change the modified date of the folder. WRIGHT
  • Regional settings, bios times, bios battery are all a-ok WRIGHT
  • The modified date issue is not due to sole use of a 3rd party program (i.e. it occurs in a variety of file change methods, such as a file edited in WORD or PAINT) WRIGHT
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17 Jan 2010   #18
TimStitt

Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by sylvialdgsd View Post
If this Log is blank, try running the batch from an elevated CMD prompt
Ha... I forgot to tell you to right-click on the batch file and select 'Run as administrator' (this would then be an 'Elevated CMD prompt'). Apologies!
Explanation: The problem is that the batch file creates a vbs script that runs over your drives and ensures that you have access to them, the vbs script won't run unless the little black CMD window (that the batch file runs in) is elevated to administrator.

Please run as administrator and then re-test your modified date issue.
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Thanks for affirming my other questions, this means that our narrowed-down problem is 'On the D drive, the modified date for a folder does not change, even when that folder is renamed'.

I freely admit how strange this is but at least we are finding out more about the issue. Do you know the partitioning structure of your D drive, is it FAT16, NTFS, something else?
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18 Jan 2010   #19
sylvialdgsd

Windows 7
 
 

Hi TimStitt,

I ran the script as administrator this time, no change...

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by TimStitt View Post
Thanks for affirming my other questions, this means that our narrowed-down problem is 'On the D drive, the modified date for a folder does not change, even when that folder is renamed'.

I freely admit how strange this is but at least we are finding out more about the issue. Do you know the partitioning structure of your D drive, is it FAT16, NTFS, something else?
Thank YO for taking the time to help me.

The D partition is formatted as FAT32. The 2 other partition are NTFS.
I think I'll just format the D as NTFS, it might fix the problem.

Thanks to all of you for your help/suggestions.

Sylvia
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19 Jan 2010   #20
TimStitt

Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by sylvialdgsd View Post

The D partition is formatted as FAT32. The 2 other partition are NTFS.
I think I'll just format the D as NTFS, it might fix the problem.

Thanks to all of you for your help/suggestions.

Sylvia
Hi Sylvia,
I was angling towards a reformat to NTFS if your drive was FAT32. I think that this is your best bet, strange things happen with large FAT drives (whoops.... that was not meant to sound funny ).

If the reformatting as NTFS solves your problem then please let us know.

and good luck!
-Tim
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