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Windows 7: My Issues with Windows 7

08 Feb 2010   #101
Frostmourne

Windows 7 Ultimate x86-64
 
 

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Again to lazy to quote.

Anyone know of any good tweaking guides for Windows 7 to help cut down on its bulk of useless features? I have already gone through task scheduler and the turn off windows features thing.
Try Black Vipers site if it ca be tweaked he's done it.Black Viper's Web Site
Right, fogot about that one. Thanks.

I got my boot memory usage down to about 820mb. Not to shabby. Fastest restart i've recorded is 74s but that was before I got memory down to 820mb as well.

I had it down to 710mb one boot but realized I had a dependency disabled that disabled a bunch of services including audio lol.
Who cares about a few MB. My 7 install has nothing installed on a gaming box - no applications except benchmarks, DRM, and drivers. 7 takes 1GB for itself. Black Viper is pointless.


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08 Feb 2010   #102
Merlin2000

Windows 7
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by BunBun View Post
Right, fogot about that one. Thanks.

I got my boot memory usage down to about 820mb. Not to shabby. Fastest restart i've recorded is 74s but that was before I got memory down to 820mb as well.

I had it down to 710mb one boot but realized I had a dependency disabled that disabled a bunch of services including audio lol.
- You better make a full 100% complete backup image of your computer. With all these minor tweaks, I bet everything is now completely different from the vanilla Windows 7 (in a good way). Would hate to see you have to go through all these troubles again!

Btw, did you update your 1st post with all your tweaks since the start of the thread? Would be good to have them all consolidated in a single post.

Also, did you get around to those benchmarks yet? I was thinking about installing XP and Win 7 on a separate drive just to post some benchmarks of the two.

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Who cares about a few MB. My 7 install has nothing installed on a gaming box - no applications except benchmarks, DRM, and drivers. 7 takes 1GB for itself. Black Viper is pointless.
- Someone trying to gain performance out of his/her OS? Someone with limited resources? Someone that wants to know how far Windows 7 can go? There are tons of reasons why someone would want to tweak their system to gain performance. Next you're going to be complaining about people over clocking their CPUs!
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08 Feb 2010   #103
BunBun

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

I haven't done the XP restart yet. Haven't had time been really busy but will get a dual boot going with it soon (i forgot to do it before I formatted).

And I already had to redo it cause something got corrupt with windows update and kept getting access denied everywhere and then my activation got messed up so I threw my hands up in the air and formatted again... now everything is perfect and I have my boot usage down to just under 820mb.

I haven't updated the first post but I have been thinking about it. Making it more clear and adding stuff that I have done since.

@frostmourne

You are entitled to your opinion.
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08 Feb 2010   #104
Tepid

Win 7 Ultimate 32bit
 
 

Blackviper had it's place in XP, this is true.

7 is different and manages things different.

7 is not XP, treating as such is not doing you any favors.

Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should do it, or that it is the right thing to do.

Do you even know why there is no such things as hardware profiles anymore?
Or did that one just escape everyone?
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09 Feb 2010   #105
BunBun

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Tepid View Post
Blackviper had it's place in XP, this is true.

7 is different and manages things different.

7 is not XP, treating as such is not doing you any favors.

Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should do it, or that it is the right thing to do.

Do you even know why there is no such things as hardware profiles anymore?
Or did that one just escape everyone?
So? Your point? Really I am completely and entirely failing to see it (or you are failing to make it...)

I am starting to think you work for microsoft or are paid by them in some way.

I am a power user. This is MY computer. I am in control of it and IMO it uses far too much memory on boot. Esspeically considering how 90% of the new features of Vista/Win 7 I dont use or care to use. Also I want it to boot in less then 30 seconds so that I may stop useing the sleep function and have a cleaner, more stable system every day that I use it.

I don't use homegroups and I dont use libraries. I have my own setup well established network of computers in a established and organized directory structure accross my server, NAS box, media center, other various family computers, my laptop, and my gaming rig. So why should I have these things running takeing up system resources that could be better used on my CAD applications so that I may finish my work faster so that I may play my games sooner and longer and at that running better?

I am the administrator of this machine and all the computers in this house. Why should I have some OS dictating what I can or can not do with MY computers? I disable built in security features so that I may have access to my OWN equipment. If anyone is going to be dictating what is or isn't done on any computer in this house it is going to be me.
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09 Feb 2010   #106
Frostmourne

Windows 7 Ultimate x86-64
 
 

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Blackviper had it's place in XP, this is true.

7 is different and manages things different.

7 is not XP, treating as such is not doing you any favors.

Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should do it, or that it is the right thing to do.

Do you even know why there is no such things as hardware profiles anymore?
Or did that one just escape everyone?
So? Your point? Really I am completely and entirely failing to see it (or you are failing to make it...)

I am starting to think you work for microsoft or are paid by them in some way.

I am a power user. This is MY computer. I am in control of it and IMO it uses far too much memory on boot. Esspeically considering how 90% of the new features of Vista/Win 7 I dont use or care to use. Also I want it to boot in less then 30 seconds so that I may stop useing the sleep function and have a cleaner, more stable system every day that I use it.

I don't use homegroups and I dont use libraries. I have my own setup well established network of computers in a established and organized directory structure accross my server, NAS box, media center, other various family computers, my laptop, and my gaming rig. So why should I have these things running takeing up system resources that could be better used on my CAD applications so that I may finish my work faster so that I may play my games sooner and longer and at that running better?

I am the administrator of this machine and all the computers in this house. Why should I have some OS dictating what I can or can not do with MY computers? I disable built in security features so that I may have access to my OWN equipment. If anyone is going to be dictating what is or isn't done on any computer in this house it is going to be me.
You are confusing the control issues here. You also have plenty of resources, so a MB's of RAM saved is not an issue, and your CAD instructions are not going to be hampered or improved by fiddling with services.
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09 Feb 2010   #107
BunBun

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

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Why have 4GB + of RAM and tell the OS ... Dont use it.
So that I can use it how I want to, not how the OS thinks I want to.

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You are confusing the control issues here. You also have plenty of resources, so a MB's of RAM saved is not an issue, and your CAD instructions are not going to be hampered or improved by fiddling with services.
I have saved 200mb of ram so roughly 2.5% which has also shaved some time off my boot and made my system a bit more responsive.

So yes CAD applications and games will see a benefit and I have more resources for more multi-tasking and thus can get more work done.
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09 Feb 2010   #108
zzz2496

Windows7 Ultimate 64bit
 
 

Why do you guys keep on forcing each other's way of computing to one another? Frostmourne, can't you just accept the fact that there are other that has different idea about computing other that yours, and keep it at that... As I said before, there are people that will want to control every single byte of memory they have, every single nanosecond of processing time of their computer to do JUST WHAT THEY WANT IT TO DO, what the hell is there to be so hard to understand??? Urgh...

zzz2496
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09 Feb 2010   #109
Lee

Win 7 Pro x64, VM Win XP, Win7 Pro Sandbox, Kubuntu 11
 
 

Mods it would appear that this is getting out of control. It would appear that this is generating into name calling. Please, Please end this post.
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09 Feb 2010   #110
CarlTR6

Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit
 
 

I went through Black Viper's services list last night item by item. What I discovered is that Windows 7 has done a really good job with the services. The improvement over XP is like comparing a Porsche to a Model A. Since I never used Vista, I can't comment on the improvement in services over Vista; although Black Viper makes several comments on the improvement.

For the most part Windows 7 has only absolutely essential services in automatic. Some services that are needed only briefly or sporadically start and stop themselves from the manual setting.

Some services can be disabled - about six of them for me - depending on whether you are using a wireless connection and a hardware firewall or a modem without a router. There are a few other services that can be disabled if your computer is a standalone and you are not using a homegroup. For those that are extra security conscious, there are two or three services than can be disabled.

Windows 7 has made really good use of the manual setting and has very few services running that are not essential.

Although I did tweak my services, the gain is minuscule. Windows 7 really has the services thing streamlined and efficient from this non-geek's point of view.
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