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Windows 7: Need Full Windows Services List

14 Feb 2010   #91
gregrocker

 

Tweak freaks.

I fix their computers all the time.

They can't stand perfection because it doesn't comport to their worldview. They have never ridden a 30 foot wave, or watched raptly as an OS is perfected to a T.

They will try to argue with me as I am Sys Restoring from boot their borked computers to before they got tweaky.




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15 Feb 2010   #92
BunBun

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Seven is not as vastly different as everyone makes it out to be and it is far from perfect and Microsoft is far from perfect. Yes it is better but there is still room for improvement.
Wasted resources are wasted resources and Windows is full of crap that a lot of people will never use.

Honestly I wish they provided more custimization in terms of resource usage and appearance in 7 Ultimate (over the lesser versions) to allow streamlining for those who wish to maximize their performance and don't care about how "pretty" the OS is. I'm talking right to the nitty gritty here. Customize what the kernal is running, every aspect of the UI (being able to get rid of all the massive icons and animations in various dialog and properties dialog boxes), every service, every process, control over the pagefile and superfetch (when, limitations, exceptions, exclusions, wtc). Honestly I wish they had a "workstation" mode that stripped the UI of everything unnecessary and revert provisions that were made for the entertainment aspect (icons are moved farther apart to accomodate laptops and touch pads for example) and change CPU scheduler prioritizing to suit work loads rather then entertainment loads and such. It disgusts me that I am forced to use software and equipment that is designed for people who use computers for something they were not supposed to be for. Why so many people are buying massive laptops that just sit at home and why our OS'es are being catered to these kinds of people is beyond me.

So yeah, hardly perfect and hardly even close to perfect for everyone. It may be good enough for some but it is not for others so if you have no issue with it then I suggest you move along and continue enjoying it and let those who do have issues continue to discuss on forums like these and work out solutions and hopefully get our points accross to microsoft so that maybe some of our concerns will be addressed. In no way are we impeding on your experericne so quit trying to impede on ours.
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15 Feb 2010   #93
karlsnooks

MS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-bit
 
 

I don't necessarily recommend messing with services but with that said:

Take a look at SERVICES.MSC

If you like a command-line approach, PowerShell's Get-Services cmdlet will get you started in an exciting world.
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16 Feb 2010   #94
pezzonovante

Windows 7 RTM x86
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by BunBun View Post
Again just leave the thread. If you are happy with the OS as in then fine, but don't get in our way.
And FYI greg, you will never see my computer as I am the sole administrator of it and never once have I had a irreperable issues arrise as a result of my tweaking (and I would like to see you try a sys restore on a system that has had it disabled before the OS was even installed...). In fact it is my tweaking that has brought on an understanding of the inner workings of my computer that allows me to keep it running in the best of its capable performance and keep it from getting into an unusable state (not to mention troubleshoot users computers like yourself who like to beleive they are computer gods but don't actually have a clue what is going on).

Please, get over yourself, move on.
I have never messed with the Windows services list and haven't had any performance issues in the last few years. I never get infected with malwares, because I use UAC with the maximum setting. And this IS the best way of running Windows 7.

I pity people like you who want to show off their computing skills by tweaking their OSes without even knowing what those tweaks mean. From what you have posted so far, I can safely conclude you know nothing at all about how Operating Systems work and what affects performance. If you want to learn about OS architecture, you should read this book:
Windows® Internals: Including Windows Server 2008 and Windows Vista, Fifth Edition (PRO-Developer) (9780735625303): Mark Russinovich, David A. Solomon, Alex Ionescu
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16 Feb 2010   #95
hubris

W7, Xp Pro
 
 

Each to their own for me.

That aside, trust in other's "Tips and Tricks" ( and your own ) is a learned experience through trial and error.

Cheers.
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16 Feb 2010   #96
CarlTR6

Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by pezzonovante View Post
I have never messed with the Windows services list and haven't had any performance issues in the last few years. I never get infected with malwares, because I use UAC with the maximum setting. And this IS the best way of running Windows 7.
That may be true for you and if it is I accept that. If it is true for you, how do you know if you haven't experimented? It may may not be true for me with my particular system and my computing purposes. I have experimented and my system runs well and is rock solid. I will continue to experiment because that is my nature; that is me.

Your reading recommendation is a good one. I read about anything I am really interested in: computers, motorcycles, flying, and kayaking. Oh, and I do most of my own work on my motorcycles, particularly my vintage bikes.
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16 Feb 2010   #97
BunBun

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by karlsnooks View Post
If you like a command-line approach, PowerShell's Get-Services cmdlet will get you started in an exciting world.
Thanks! I will check out that PowerShell cmdlet. PS is one thing that has me excited about Windows 7 and I need to get into it some more.
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16 Feb 2010   #98
Greg S

Windows 7 Professional 32-bit (6.1, Build 7600)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by BunBun View Post
Wasted resources are wasted resources and Windows is full of crap that a lot of people will never use.
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I doubt you'll find too many folks that will or can dispute that.
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16 Feb 2010   #99
antt

Windows 7 build 7100 x86
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Greg S View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by BunBun View Post
Wasted resources are wasted resources and Windows is full of crap that a lot of people will never use.
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I doubt you'll find too many folks that will or can dispute that.
Can I give it a shot?

Windows has these things in it to provide a known quantity. Every version of Windows will have this set of APIs open, services running, and libraries available. The kernel will be the same, from Starter through to Ultimate. Very easy to program for if you know that everything is already there, and easy to troubleshoot.

If you removed that, each installer would have to have some sort of list to tell the operating system what it depended on to run. The operating system could manage this list to download and install all the things necessary for the selected program.
However you would have to always be connected to the internet for the OS to download the dependencies, which is a bummer if it hasn't installed your wireless card.
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17 Feb 2010   #100
BunBun

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Language bar, advanced text services, accessibility options...

Theres 3 things I will never use and have no way of disabling them in the OS.

Homegroups, tablet support, windows media center...

Theres 3 things that I can disable and have. Although tablet functions cant be completly disabled as it is tied into other things (wisptis for example is used by the snipping tool... found that out after disabling it and not being able to use the snipping tool. Although I am pleased that the OS is quick to unload wisptis when the requesting application is closed).

Oh and libraries... disabled them in the registry but they are still there. Some programs still call them up. I will never use them nor will a lot of people I know.

There are a lot of things that if windows was built more modularily that could be disabled/deleted and forgotten by those who don't use/need those things.
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