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Windows 7: Need Full Windows Services List

11 Feb 2010   #51
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by BunBun View Post
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"oh theres plenty of RAM, I don't need to take that into consideration".
In the 60's, I had rewritten a stand-alone OS 3 times because there was only 8KBytes of RAM on the machine where it was supposed to run (plus an application). I wish I had 4GBs then.
Exactly my point.
Understand. But you have to go with the times. In the 60's. RAM (or Core Storage as it was called then) was scarce. Not so today. If i were a developer today, i would rather spend my brain and time on optimizing performance, security, compatibility, etc. than RAM optimization.


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11 Feb 2010   #52
BunBun

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

RAM optimization is optimizing for performance.
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11 Feb 2010   #53
unifex

Windows 7 Ultimate (x64)
 
 

Coming back to the original topic, I actually did disable some services after reading the Black Viper's guide, as well as Microsoft Knowledge Base - in fact, this is the most complete reference to all services, I have never seen any public documentation or reference guide that would contain more information than what's available on the Microsoft web site.

Now, there were less services to disable, compared to XP or Vista, but some were still there. I have definitely disabled services that I consider security risk - i.e. NetBios, Remote Registry, etc. Plus, there are services that are supposed to use some particular hardware features - bluetooth, smart cards, etc. - that I simply do not have on my PC, thus there is no reason to have them enabled. I do not have a modem - so the fax service is not needed. I don't "share" - so I don't need the WMP sharing service.

After all these have been disabled - I don't think I have gained much in terms of performance. Still, I don't like running things that are not necessary.

Finally, I also like to control which app accesses the Internet and when, I don't like the fashion of every program accessing the net the moment I run it. However, how do I know that the program accesses internet? My ESET firewall tells me. But, the firewall does not distinguish between accessing local IPs (such as 127.0.0.1) and the actual internet. Some programs use TCP/IP internally, and only use localhost. This, however, is still noticed by ESET as internet connection. So, one has to be careful with disabling internet access. On the other hand, if only someone could have told me how to disable the Adobe updater ....
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11 Feb 2010   #54
computersplus

Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit
 
 

Like I said if want a real lean OS you need to use a tool like Vlite in order to customize your install disc prior to installing the OS then you won't have stuff you don't want
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11 Feb 2010   #55
CarlTR6

Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Thorsen View Post
No worries. I am not as experienced as I presume myself to be. I am smart enough to not let my intellegence go to my head. In my field, if you haven't broken something, your not trying hard enough. (thats what test environments are for after all) Glad to know that others delve into the system.

I had to tweak XP alot to get it to stop using processes that I didn't need. here is my level of running processes:
win98 7 processes running on startup
winXP 25 processes running on startup
Win7 75 processes running on startup <--this is my next project....there are tons of services in msconfig that are not running, but I don't think I need all 75 of these things running.
That is some good tweaking. I do not remember what I got my Win98 down to; but I got XP down to 33.

With Windows 7, I have 63 processes running.
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11 Feb 2010   #56
Thorsen

Win7 Home Premium 64x
 
 

60ish is what I am hoping for. It is awesome that most of the stuff is not run on startup and the system doesn't use what it doesn't need. My 98 died last year. sad to see it go...but I couldn't do anything with it as it didn't have usb2.0.....but yea started up in 45 seconds with 98% resources free and 7 processes. took me a while to whittle it down to the core components.
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11 Feb 2010   #57
CarlTR6

Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Thorsen View Post
60ish is what I am hoping for. It is awesome that most of the stuff is not run on startup and the system doesn't use what it doesn't need. My 98 died last year. sad to see it go...but I couldn't do anything with it as it didn't have usb2.0.....but yea started up in 45 seconds with 98% resources free and 7 processes. took me a while to whittle it down to the core components.
I agree; the developers did a superb job with services in Windows 7.

I really enjoyed tweaking and working with Win 98.
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11 Feb 2010   #58
Frostmourne

Windows 7 Ultimate x86-64
 
 

63 processes? That isn't 7 - I have less than 50 on my gaming PC and less than 55 (usually) on my laptop. What have you bloated 7 with?
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11 Feb 2010   #59
DarkPhoenix

Windows 7
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by computersplus View Post
DarkPhoenix you may want to have a look at scheduled tasks in Windows 7 more so than services I think you will be shocked when you see whats scheduled to happen and the event triggers...
I just want to say I am looking at them now from SysInternals Autoruns. I had forgotten about SysInternals.. I used to use them before Microsoft took them over. Process Monitor is kick butt.

Yeah, there sure are a lot of schedualed tasks that are just trash..

I have 2 copies of Google Installer and a shocking 11 copies of Digital Tv Tuner device registration ! Bluetooth.. and others.. This is a gaming machine not being used for a media center. I don't need that junk to ever think about starting up.

Aside from disabling things in services, the sysinternals tools are the best way to disable unwanted junk. Microsoft even recommends it.

You folks can get an entire Sysinternal Suite here:

Sysinternals Suite

Or click on each hyperlink on this page to learn about and download each individual program you may want.

Autoruns will do most of what you need including disabling services, but the entire suite is a collection of no less than 63 awesome tools that you can use to view information about and manipulate things that are running on your PC !

What I like about disabling services in Autoruns is there is a detailed description next to each service so you can easily see if it is something you want or need to run or not.
This description even gives you recommendations on why you might want to keep a service running or disable it.
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11 Feb 2010   #60
CarlTR6

Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Frostmourne View Post
63 processes? That isn't 7 - I have less than 50 on my gaming PC and less than 55 (usually) on my laptop. What have you bloated 7 with?
Aside from a home network, only office 2007, AV and and a firewall. I am running ultimate which has a lot of networking type stuff. I am slowly and cautiously going through and disabling some of that.
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