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Windows 7: Can "permissions" be eliminated?

12 Feb 2010   #11
CarlTR6

Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit
 
 

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There is also a little secret that I have held off until you tried my first method. The super powerful administrator. It is used only in emergency to defeat the security. But try the first method and post back. I am sure someone else will come by and spill the secret. But, I prefer not to use it until other methods have failed. Good luck
Rich, would post post this or PM me? I would like to add this to my administrator account (if I have not all ready discovered it), not my everyday account.
I have sent you the information. As I mentioned, use it with caution. Personally, I use a standard account for personal use. There really is not that much need for even the regular administrator account. I like to know that the annoying UAC is helping to prevent more than just annoying problems.

Thank you very much for the prompt response and have a good day.


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12 Feb 2010   #12
unifex

Windows 7 Ultimate (x64)
 
 

I am just thinking, when you say that the file is "locked" by Photoshop while trying to use it in another application, is this file still open in Photoshop? If yes, try closing the file in Photoshop before accessing it in Poser. If no, try closing Photoshop and see if that makes a difference. If none of these work, see where the files are actually located and try to keep them away from protected areas such as Program Files and Common Files, as already mentioned by Barman.
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13 Feb 2010   #13
velvetmoxie

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit
 
 

Though it didn't seem like it would make a difference, turning off the UAC seems to have solved the problem. I also installed that "take ownership" thing and I'm having no problems with it. I like the idea of being notified if something wants to change my computer...but not to the extent that I can't make my own changes. I also noticed that it seemed to take forever (I've been spoiled with this new computer) to start it this time--read elsewhere that when UAC is turned off this happens--but again something I'll have to deal with I guess. Unlike most people I've spoken to locally here, I rather like Windows 7--it's just this security thing that makes me crazy. And I sure didn't need to spend more money to downgrade to XP pro. So far so good in getting the programs to run on it also--though there are some smaller programs for file writing that I'm almost afraid to try--hopefully I can get back to the business of creating now and earn some money from this investment.

Just for future reference in case someone else pops on here with the same or similar problems, I was able to give "everyone" access to my entire external drive which eliminated the problem there. It was only when I installed directly to the Poser runtime that I encountered the problems. And yes, I was running Photoshop in administrator mode; it didn't make a difference. The image was not open in Photoshop at the time (though this was an excellent point) and with the frequency of changes in this process, closing Photoshop and reopening every time I create a file isn't feasible. The lock was still appearing though even when Photoshop was closed. Unfortunately, installing directly to Poser runtime does involve going through programs (86x) as that's where it's located, but Poser is designed to have this runtime added to and subtracted from--much as Photoshop is designed to allow for things such as brush additions. It seemed to be only Windows that was having a problem with it, LOL!

Since the problem seems to have gone away (for now) I haven't had occasion to use that "take ownership" program, but when (I'm sure it's a matter of time, LOL!) I do will report back and let you know how it works. As it is though, whatever it did to the registry seems not to have encumbered anything else that I can see right now.

Thanks so much for saving me on this--if I'd have pulled my hair any harder I'd be bald by now, LOL!
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13 Feb 2010   #14
davehc
Microsoft MVP

Vista and now 7 in 32 and 64 bit.
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by richc46 View Post
There is also a little secret that I have held off until you tried my first method. The super powerful administrator. It is used only in emergency to defeat the security. But try the first method and post back. I am sure someone else will come by and spill the secret. But, I prefer not to use it until other methods have failed. Good luck
It is not so much a secret. It is well published on the web and ny Microsoft.
It puts you very much in the postion you are more accustomed to inWindowsa XP, of being the "Global " Administrator. ::
There are a couple of ways:
Open a command prompt(Run as Administrator.
Type the following command and enter.
net user administrator /active
Log out and see if you have a new alternative login, as well as your existing one. If not, do it the long way.
Shut down the computer for a cold boot. Tap the "F8" key as you are booting.
Select "Safe Mode with networking" from the boot menu.
Log into windows 7 with your personal account that holds the administrator access.
Open a command window (START--->RUN--->CMD.exe). At the command prompt type the following net user administrator /active
Log out and log back in as administrator.

Another way
Go to Start
Type Control UserPasswords2.
Click Advanced.
Click Advanced again.
Select Users.
Select Administrator and untick the the box “Administrator is disabled”
Now log out and login as Administrator.

The action leaves you a little more vulnerable to outside attack, (Using MS anti attack tools) Not a big issue if you are confident with your anti virus control etc.
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13 Feb 2010   #15
richc46

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 10, Home Clean Install
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by davehc View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by richc46 View Post
There is also a little secret that I have held off until you tried my first method. The super powerful administrator. It is used only in emergency to defeat the security. But try the first method and post back. I am sure someone else will come by and spill the secret. But, I prefer not to use it until other methods have failed. Good luck
It is not so much a secret. It is well published on the web and ny Microsoft.
It puts you very much in the postion you are more accustomed to inWindowsa XP, of being the "Global " Administrator. ::
There are a couple of ways:
Open a command prompt(Run as Administrator.
Type the following command and enter.
net user administrator /active
Log out and see if you have a new alternative login, as well as your existing one. If not, do it the long way.
Shut down the computer for a cold boot. Tap the "F8" key as you are booting.
Select "Safe Mode with networking" from the boot menu.
Log into windows 7 with your personal account that holds the administrator access.
Open a command window (START--->RUN--->CMD.exe). At the command prompt type the following net user administrator /active
Log out and log back in as administrator.

Another way
Go to Start
Type Control UserPasswords2.
Click Advanced.
Click Advanced again.
Select Users.
Select Administrator and untick the the box “Administrator is disabled”
Now log out and login as Administrator.

The action leaves you a little more vulnerable to outside attack, (Using MS anti attack tools) Not a big issue if you are confident with your anti virus control etc.
I agree that it is not really a secret, but I feel it should be used as a last resort. I was trying to help the poster, in the way that I felt was best, while assuring him that there were still alternative methods to get him up an running.
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13 Feb 2010   #16
richc46

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 10, Home Clean Install
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by velvetmoxie View Post
Though it didn't seem like it would make a difference, turning off the UAC seems to have solved the problem. I also installed that "take ownership" thing and I'm having no problems with it. I like the idea of being notified if something wants to change my computer...but not to the extent that I can't make my own changes. I also noticed that it seemed to take forever (I've been spoiled with this new computer) to start it this time--read elsewhere that when UAC is turned off this happens--but again something I'll have to deal with I guess. Unlike most people I've spoken to locally here, I rather like Windows 7--it's just this security thing that makes me crazy. And I sure didn't need to spend more money to downgrade to XP pro. So far so good in getting the programs to run on it also--though there are some smaller programs for file writing that I'm almost afraid to try--hopefully I can get back to the business of creating now and earn some money from this investment.

Just for future reference in case someone else pops on here with the same or similar problems, I was able to give "everyone" access to my entire external drive which eliminated the problem there. It was only when I installed directly to the Poser runtime that I encountered the problems. And yes, I was running Photoshop in administrator mode; it didn't make a difference. The image was not open in Photoshop at the time (though this was an excellent point) and with the frequency of changes in this process, closing Photoshop and reopening every time I create a file isn't feasible. The lock was still appearing though even when Photoshop was closed. Unfortunately, installing directly to Poser runtime does involve going through programs (86x) as that's where it's located, but Poser is designed to have this runtime added to and subtracted from--much as Photoshop is designed to allow for things such as brush additions. It seemed to be only Windows that was having a problem with it, LOL!

Since the problem seems to have gone away (for now) I haven't had occasion to use that "take ownership" program, but when (I'm sure it's a matter of time, LOL!) I do will report back and let you know how it works. As it is though, whatever it did to the registry seems not to have encumbered anything else that I can see right now.

Thanks so much for saving me on this--if I'd have pulled my hair any harder I'd be bald by now, LOL!
Thank you for your kind words and rep. I am glad that your computer is working the way you prefer. I am also glad that you saved the information for further use, it was very prudent of you.
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