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Windows 7: Locked folders

06 Oct 2010   #21
2007S281

All Windows
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mikedl View Post
I understand your point, however, I assert the new "Users" directory structure should be understood and utilized for what you mention.

There is nothing in the "Documents and Settings" folder that is not in the "Users" directory tree. It's an anachronism in comparison to the world of Windows 7.
First off I HATE people that throw around words like "anachronism" & "presaged" to try to show how smart they are.
I'm 54 years old and have never heard these 2 words used in every day language.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by logicearth
You are looking in the wrong place.
The All User's start menu is here: C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu

It is you who screwed up here. None of this is new, this new structure was started all the way back in Windows Vista. This information is easy to find there is even an XP directories to Vista/7 directories list.
Who said anything about Start Menu? Don't assume I was referring to the ALL Users Desktop. And like Vista was such a Great OS, I compare it to Win Millennium!


I won't be using this site anymore, thanks for your input and use of large words to talk down to people. No One talks down to me.

Have a great day and remember that a satisfied customer tells a few people, but a dis-satisfied customer tells everyone!


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06 Oct 2010   #22
logicearth

Windows 10 Pro (x64)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by 2007S281 View Post
Who said anything about Start Menu? Don't assume I was referring to the ALL Users Desktop...
Then it is C:\Users\Public\Desktop
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06 Oct 2010   #23
mikedl

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by 2007S281 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mikedl View Post
I understand your point, however, I assert the new "Users" directory structure should be understood and utilized for what you mention.

There is nothing in the "Documents and Settings" folder that is not in the "Users" directory tree. It's an anachronism in comparison to the world of Windows 7.
First off I HATE people that throw around words like "anachronism" & "presaged" to try to show how smart they are.
I'm 54 years old and have never heard these 2 words used in every day language.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by logicearth
You are looking in the wrong place.
The All User's start menu is here: C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu

It is you who screwed up here. None of this is new, this new structure was started all the way back in Windows Vista. This information is easy to find there is even an XP directories to Vista/7 directories list.
Who said anything about Start Menu? Don't assume I was referring to the ALL Users Desktop. And like Vista was such a Great OS, I compare it to Win Millennium!


I won't be using this site anymore, thanks for your input and use of large words to talk down to people. No One talks down to me.

Have a great day and remember that a satisfied customer tells a few people, but a dis-satisfied customer tells everyone!


Admin Please delete this account, thanks
Interesting post. The inflection implicit in the tone of the verbiage I chose to present was not intended to be construed as demeaning in any manner whatsoever; it is exceedingly evident you failed to comprehend such. I was merely presenting an opinion, much the same as you chose to do when you proffered the assertion "Once again MS Screwed up!"

It is not incumbent on me to present my words in an altered fashion so others might find them more commensurate with common discourse and vernacular.

I'm sorry you did not understand my initial offering as nothing more than, in my opinion, sane advice.
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05 Dec 2010   #24
pmokover

Windows 7
 
 

I know this is an old thread but I have a question that directly relates to this topic.

I have a new Win7 Ultimate 64bit machine and I was trying to gain access to the Symlink "Documents and Settings" which is in the root directory (C:\). I played with permissions and ownership and managed to gain access and to make it visible in Windows Explorer. I would now like to "hide" it again so I don't see it in Windows Explorer but I can't figure out how to hide it. The usual right-click, then Properties doesn't have the usual Hidden check-box. So, how can I make it hidden (not visible in Win Explorer)?

Thanks.
Peter
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28 Dec 2010   #25
Mehzuku

W7 Pro x64
 
 

Quote:
Beginning with Vista, folders used on XP like "Documents and Settings" are just Symlinks or "Virtual Folders" that redirect requests to the new folder locations for applications running in Virtualized mode or "XP Compatibility Mode"...You cant access these "Virtual Folders" using explorer since there only their for app compatibility with applications written for XP
- The issue with this is that I have access to where the symlink points. Why doesn't it simply put me in that directory when I click the symlink, ala *nix? This behaviour of denial is retarded. "My Documents" is a virtual folder as well, but it doesn't tell me I can't navigate to it. What crack head come up with this?

- The next issue with this is that little lock means nothing. There are dozens of "locked" directories I can click and enter without the slightest issue. It's only some of them that won't let me in. That means the little lock is simply more useless eye candy, because it does not mean the folder is locked to me.

- The last issue with denial is that I have Administrator rights, yet I am denied access to huge chunks of the system. That's like telling root they can't access something ... insane. Windoze needs to run with a non-admin account by default, ala *nix, and go from there, not water down "Administrator" so it can't access harmful parts of the system. That's about retarded.

- Overall w7 is a vast leap backward in usability. It may have nice features, but the day in, day out operation sucks the wax tadpole. This bizarre denial is but one instance of literally dozens of insensate changes to the interface.
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28 Dec 2010   #26
logicearth

Windows 10 Pro (x64)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Mehzuku View Post
- The issue with this is that I have access to where the symlink points. Why doesn't it simply put me in that directory when I click the symlink, ala *nix? This behaviour of denial is retarded. "My Documents" is a virtual folder as well, but it doesn't tell me I can't navigate to it. What crack head come up with this?
They are not symlinks they are junctions. They work differently then symlinks and hardlinks. Denying the permission to get the folder contents is to prevent software from scanning this directory and pulling out duplicate files or backing up duplicate files.

Quote:
- The next issue with this is that little lock means nothing. There are dozens of "locked" directories I can click and enter without the slightest issue. It's only some of them that won't let me in. That means the little lock is simply more useless eye candy, because it does not mean the folder is locked to me.
The lock icons mean the location is private only your user/or and admin can access it. They only show up on the root level folder that is private. That is of course if you do not foolishly altered permissions.

Quote:
- The last issue with denial is that I have Administrator rights, yet I am denied access to huge chunks of the system. That's like telling root they can't access something ... insane. Windoze needs to run with a non-admin account by default, ala *nix, and go from there, not water down "Administrator" so it can't access harmful parts of the system. That's about retarded.
Any folder that denies access is a junction point for compatibly. Everyone is denied. Even SYSTEM. Its not a water downed anything. You have the full power of the Administrator account, all it requires to get that power is elevate (e.g. sodo).

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- Overall w7 is a vast leap backward in usability.
For you maybe. Windows is made for average consumer usability.

You problem is easily solved by going to Folder options and turning on: "Hide protected operating system files" That way you will never see these junctions again and be confused by them.

Why are people still confused by this? My god it has been four+ years since this setup existed!
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20 Jan 2011   #27
flower108

Windows 7
 
 

I just recently got a new computer with Windows 7. I would like to make a backup of MS Outlook 2010. To do that I need to be able to access c:\users\myname\application data.

But I get the message 'application data is not accessible' 'access denied'.

The myname folder is locked. So how do I unlock it so I can backup my Outlook 2010 files?

As far as I can see that is a legitimate reason to have it unlocked. I am the only user on my computer. It is not in a network.

Also. Earlier in this thread someone suggested moving the 'users' folder to my desktop so I tried that but I do not see that folder on my desktop but the icons are now somewhat darkened and I do not see that folder on the desktop. How to I get it back to where it was and have my desktop appearance return to normal?

Thanks in advance for any ideas on this.
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20 Jan 2011   #28
James Colbert

 
 

For posterity, I post this link (to new user paths and instructions):

Locked folders

Also, here is an image, with a link to the page it was captured from(courtesy of link in Logicearth's sig):

Svrops.com - Windows Vista Junction Points

Locked folders-user-profile-paths.jpg

James


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21 Jan 2011   #29
flower108

Windows 7
 
 

James, I really appreciate your attempt to help me but I do not understand the page that you referred me to. It is very confusing.

I don't understand why it would be impossible for me to access that folder for the purposes of backing up a file in it.

I am the only user on my computer.

It seems unnecessarily complicated.

Could someone please explain step by step what to do?

I need to backup my Outlook 2010 email files which is locked.
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21 Jan 2011   #30
James Colbert

 
 

Hi flower108, welcome to the forums.

Unfortunately, I didn't read your post carefully and assumed it pertained to the user folder issue in this thread. I've posted some links below that may be of help. In several cases of this issue, it seems that if the Outlook process is running, the folders will be locked. There may be other reasons as well, which will likely be found in the google link below.

If the information found in the below links doesn't solve your problem, I recommend starting a new thread. Your best bet may be to post in the Office forum.

Here are the links:

Can't backup Outlook 2010 - Locked File Error Message

Outlook. Solution --*.PST files that cannot be copied because they are locked

And finally, a google search on the matter (from which the above links were obtained):

Outlook 2010 email files locked - Google Search

James
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