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Windows 7: Done with "Unofficial" Builds

05 May 2009   #11
Chappy

Vista Ult 64bit - Windows 7 Ult 7264 64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Jacee View Post
yay!!!
LOL!!!

How come I knew that would come from you Luv...

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Anthony
and this is what Microsoft wants us to do, in order to send feedback
You know..that is kinda weird aint it.
I think it's probably because they're not really interested in the basic feedback from the public about "this & that" GUI or related type of feedback and are concentrating on the feedback they get thru the MSDN, TechNet, and official 7 forum for any real major deal breakers with the RC. That's my theory anyway and I'll stick with that till someone hits me with a shovel...

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Colonel Travis
matching hashes does not mean matching files 100% of the time any more
While that IS true, it's more an issue with Certs over SSL/TSL than something like this. MD5 collision can be used to make this type of file make hashes match but it's far more work than simply inserting your malware, converting it to DVD format, and just say that's why the hash doesn't match. Plus if the MD5 and SHA-1 match, you're pretty sure it's OK...even tho SHA-1 has it's issues too and we should use SHA-256 (except nobody uses that yet)

I don't know about the rest of you, but that darn Program Compatibility bug still pops up in this build. Almost every time I install a program, I get that pop-up stating "This program may not have installed properly" and the options to "Install using recommended settings" or "This program Installed properly".
I always either cancel it or select option B and all the programs work fine. I'll be bringing that up on TechNet tomorrow and see where it goes.


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05 May 2009   #12
Jon55

Windows 7 64-bit (7127) & Mac OS X 10.5.7
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Anthony View Post
There's a point, if we have the official 7100, how do we send feedback to Microsoft?

Has the "send feedback" finished in RC or am i missing something??


Straight from the RC Download Page:

Quote:
How do you test the software? You put it on your PC, and then do what you'd normally do. Your PC will automatically and anonymously send our engineers the information they need to verify the fixes and changes they made based on the Windows 7 Beta tests.

Not sure what this means exactly though.
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05 May 2009   #13
Chappy

Vista Ult 64bit - Windows 7 Ult 7264 64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Jon55
Not sure what this means exactly though.
That probably means they've "permanently" turned on the "Send Anonymous Details to MS" in the RC, on any errors that MS may consider to be important.
So I guess we'll be seeing a ton of "My PC keeps contacting some site.." threads from those who monitor this kind of activity...
With the numbers of people expected to get this RC, I would think MS is also using a few servers so we may need to find out their IP's so we can weed those out for them.

Personally, I think this is a much better way to do it also. MS can customize the degugger process and sort out the useless chaff from the seed of the problems more easily.
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05 May 2009   #14
jimbo45

Linux CENTOS 7 / various Windows OS'es and servers
 
 

Hi there
To replicate the Hash algorithms you'd need all the computers on the planet plus the estimated future lifetime of the Sun (approx another 4.5 Billion years).

I doubt whether some "pimply semi literate teen" would have either the resource or knowledge to even ATTEMPT to do this.

By all means download the real one -- nothing wrong with that -- and the fact that there are a different set of keys (again albeit not many and they work for both the 32 and 64 bit versions - no separate set for each version) might mean MS knows whether your version was downloaded from the official site or obtained via a torrent. (The Beta keys do work as well however but if you've got the proper version use those keys).

But don't get paranoid with Viruses, trojans etc -- AV software often reports False positives -- so how do you decide if your system is really infected anyway.

If you use AV software then check with at least 2 different programs.

Check also the logs in your router - and if you want to add another level of safety only access the Internet via another "Proxy" which can dynamically check for stuff like this anyway.

If you are satisfied with your existing build of 7100 just use it for as long as you feel comfortable with it.

If you've had it for a while now and are satisfied with it why undo it all and go through re-install etc etc.

Cheers
jimbo
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05 May 2009   #15
xan K

Windows 7 x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
Hi there
To replicate the Hash algorithms you'd need all the computers on the planet plus the estimated future lifetime of the Sun (approx another 4.5 Billion years).

I doubt whether some "pimply semi literate teen" would have either the resource or knowledge to even ATTEMPT to do this.

By all means download the real one -- nothing wrong with that -- and the fact that there are a different set of keys (again albeit not many and they work for both the 32 and 64 bit versions - no separate set for each version) might mean MS knows whether your version was downloaded from the official site or obtained via a torrent. (The Beta keys do work as well however but if you've got the proper version use those keys).

But don't get paranoid with Viruses, trojans etc -- AV software often reports False positives -- so how do you decide if your system is really infected anyway.

If you use AV software then check with at least 2 different programs.

Check also the logs in your router - and if you want to add another level of safety only access the Internet via another "Proxy" which can dynamically check for stuff like this anyway.

If you are satisfied with your existing build of 7100 just use it for as long as you feel comfortable with it.

If you've had it for a while now and are satisfied with it why undo it all and go through re-install etc etc.

Cheers
jimbo
totally agree with you, man!
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05 May 2009   #16
brusse01

Windows 7
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Jacee View Post
yay!!!

in total agreement with Jacee and Chappy! :-)
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05 May 2009   #17
Bare Foot Kid
Microsoft MVP

W 7 64-bit Ultimate
 
 

I had the earlier 7100 running but just finished clean installing the "official" RC a little while ago and activated with the new key.

I agree with Chappy.

















Later Ted
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