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Windows 7: System Reserved HD?

21 May 2010   #31
severedsolo

Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1
 
 

Hi desktop, well your setup is unusual basically because you have your Windows 7 partition and your System Reserved Partition on 2 different hard drives, as whs said, if either of those hard drives fail, then Windows will be unbootable.

Unfortunately I am at work at the moment, so I cant post a picture of what it usually looks like, so ill try with words, this is my setup (my setup is a little complicated, but hopefully you can see what I mean):

Disk 0 - 100MB system reserved partition - 200GB Windows 7 Partion - 300GB Data Partition
Disk 1 - 136GB Backup Partion - 4GB Recovery Partition

basically, in my setup, if Disk1 fails, it doesnt matter, because Disk 1 doesnt have anything critical for windows on it, In your setup, if either Disk 0 OR Disk 1 fails, then Windows will be unbootable


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21 May 2010   #32
desktop

Windows 7 Home Premium
 
 

severedsolo, thank you for your reply and your explanation. So if I'm understanding this right then the best option would be to re-install Win7 and take care of the HD situation while installing the OS (?).

If so would it be something like this here? I can always print the instructions on that page and follow them when I re-install.

Of course I could always unplug my second HD before re-installing the OS, then Windows would install everything on one HD, correct? I can plug the second HD in after the install and just format it like a regular drive.
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21 May 2010   #33
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Sorry I am late. But severedsolo gave the answer. Should you reinstall, your best bet is to unplug the second HDD. But as I said, your current setup is workable as long as the hardware stays intact. And you could image both partitions to protect yourself. Here is how.
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21 May 2010   #34
desktop

Windows 7 Home Premium
 
 

whs, thanks for the reply, but I'm not sure about the image thing. Common practice for me is "if I don't understand it then don't do it."
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21 May 2010   #35
gregrocker

 

It would be helpful if you would ask specific questions about what you don't understand, instead of letting us explain everything so thoroughly and then repeatedly get a blanket response that you don't understand.

You chose a very youthful avatar - may I ask how old you are? Please don't take offense, but this often explains these types of responses and can help us in helping you.
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21 May 2010   #36
desktop

Windows 7 Home Premium
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
You chose a very youthful avatar...
Thanks! I am 49 years old (lol). I'm an illustrator and that's just my usual "caricature" that I use most places.

Since I don't understand this stuff then I don't know what specific things to ask. Basically, I don't understand anything about imaging or the steps you outlined in your earlier post. I am not comfortable messing around with things on my computer that I do not understand.

My apologies for being so vague. I just don't know what to say to these things. I do appreciate all your help and time taken to explain things for me.
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21 May 2010   #37
gregrocker

 

Wish we could be more help. You'll be fine unless you try to remove a HD. Check back then for the steps to accomplish this.
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21 May 2010   #38
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Quote:
if I don't understand it then don't do it
I sure got a good laugh out of this one - because I am the same way. But you are in good hands here. As was said, it helps us if you specifie exactly what you do not understand. Then we can explain it in small steps.
For an introduction to imaging I refer again to the video tutorial I made. It takes 30 minutes of your time, but I am sure you will get a better understanding.
The concept of imaging is really simple. The imaging program makes a copy of the partition you specify and when you are in trouble, you restore this copy. (And remember, we are working on partition level, not disk level - a disk can contain a lot of partitions).
And there are some other terms with which you should familiarize yourself:

Active partition - that is the one from which the system boots. You can only have one per disk, else the BIOS (that is looking for it) will mess you up.

Primary partition - You can only have a maximum of 4 of those on a physical disk. If you force a 5th one, you'll be in trouble because all your partitions will be converted into Dynamic partition which have a lot of drawbacks that I do not want to explain here.

Extended or simple partition - An extended partition is a primary partition which contains secondary simple partition (also referred to as logical partitions). Of those you can have a maximum of 128 (I believe).

So a setup with many partitions is typically 3 primaries (of which one is usually active), one extended and then many logical.
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06 Jun 2010   #39
desktop

Windows 7 Home Premium
 
 

I'm about to reformat my computer. I've been having some bizarre issues which has led me to believe that a reformat is in order. I'm going to unplug my second HD so when I do a clean install of Win7 it will put that reserved file on the same HD as the OS. Afterward I will plug in my second HD and use it normally.

Update: Ok, that didn't work. I unplugged one of my HDs and then inserted the Win7 disc and restarted. I got an error screen that said it could not locate the HD (sorry, but I didn't write down the error code). So I turned the computer off, plugged in the other HD and unplugged the other one and restarted. This time I got to the Windows install screen, but I received the following error message saying that, "A required CD/DVD drive device driver is missing."

Strange. So I shut down again, plugged both HDs in, and restarted and now here I am. Any suggestions?
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06 Jun 2010   #40
desktop

Windows 7 Home Premium
 
 

I managed to reinstall the OS - I just restarted a couple times and it finally worked. Once it was done I plugged the other HD back in. I took a screenshot of Disk Management to show the new formation...

It seems that Win7 made a system reserved on both the HDs now, or at least reserved a part of the HDs. I'm not sure what this means. I was wondering why it would do a system reserved on the second HD, since I didn't plug it in until after the install. I guess Win7 does a system reserve on any HD you plug in?

Thanks.


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