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Windows 7: Trying to shrink partition

27 May 2010   #1
linda092

Windows 7 64
 
 
Trying to shrink partition

Hello,
I have a new computer with a HD of 916 GB (approx). I am coming from XP, and have used Paragon's partitioner for years. I like to use programs included with an os if possible, and have read good things about Win7's capability with partition management.

Yes, I hit the wall of not being able to shrink past about halfway, due to unmovable files. I've been reading a lot, and found this thread. It tells me to turn off System Restore and virtual memory. Well, I tried turning off System Restore: that was not enough: I still can't shrink appropriately.

My next step according to that thread is to turn off virtual memory. With XP, I usually did not allow Windows to manage virtual memory, but specified it myself. I'm a little scared about turning it off altogether. Is that safe to do? I have barely anything installed, mainly just the OS. If I should not turn it off, then what size should I use? My OS is Win7 64 bit, and my ram is 8gb.

One of the reasons I need to be careful with what I do is I wasn't able to create bootable restore disks. But that will be in another post, once I get this going :-)


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27 May 2010   #2
Jonathan_King

Windows 7 Professional x64
 
 

Welcome to SF!

It's safe to turn off the page file. The worst that's going to happen is a performance decrease. Just remember to have Windows automatically manage is when you're done.

Also, disable hibernation: Hibernate - Enable or Disable
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27 May 2010   #3
linda092

Windows 7 64
 
 

Wow, that was a fast reply! Thanks Jonathan for the welcome and the reply. That makes sense to shut off Hibernate... I'll try this tomorrow when I have the Memorial Weekend to tinker.
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27 May 2010   #4
Jonathan_King

Windows 7 Professional x64
 
 

Okay, keep us posted.

You can also use the free Partition Wizard to shrink it. In fact, you may consider doing that now, instead of monkeying around with Disk Management.
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27 May 2010   #5
gregrocker

 

Use Perfect DIsk 10 trial's Offline Defragger to move System FIles blocking shrinkage.

It is likely free Partition Wizard bootable CD will shrink it now anyway, but as with all partition managers besides DIsk Mgmt, you need to back up your files because there is a risk of failure in Resizing operations.

However in hundreds of resizing operations we have helped with here, there hasn't been a failure yet with PW which is by far the best manager for Win7.
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29 May 2010   #6
linda092

Windows 7 64
 
 

Ok, here is where I am. I turned off Hibernate (but I'm on a desktop so I'm not sure that did anything), turned off System Restore, and am using no page file. I rebooted to make sure my changes held, and they did.
I got both programs recommended here. Perfect Disk defrag is a nice program, and it defragged everything except 2 blocks labelled as Metafiles.
I then used Partition Wizard as a bootable CD, thinking that would be best, and it said my drive was too fragmented to do as I wanted.
So I booted into Win7 again (checked again to see the unmoved files according to Perfectdisk, they are still sitting there in the middle of the Drive Map. Tried to run PW again, and it said it had to run on boot, so I let it. Same message: I need to defrag.

Apparently those 2 blocks are hanging me up. When I look at what files they are, its a list of a bunch of them. Most have the $ in front of the name.

Any suggestions?
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29 May 2010   #7
SIW2

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Vista x64 / 7 X64
 
 

Have you tried Paragon?

The new free version doesn't have lots of functions - but it works very well.

The snag is, the free Paragon doesn't come with a boot disc.

If you have 10 mins to spare, I suggest you do this:

1. Install Free Partition Manager Express - Leading partitioning software ...

2. Copy the entire contents of the Win7 32BIT install disc ( or 32BIT Recovery disc ) to your HD.

3. D/l this , Parpecreators.zip - Windows Live
( as always , rt click it >properties>unblock>apply>ok ). Unzip it and run the self extractor.

4. Rt click and RUN AS ADMIN on the 7 pecreator.cmd. In 2 mins you will have a pe3 boot disc.
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29 May 2010   #8
karlsnooks

MS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by linda092 View Post
Ok, here is where I am. I turned off Hibernate (but I'm on a desktop so I'm not sure that did anything), turned off System Restore, and am using no page file. I rebooted to make sure my changes held, and they did.
I got both programs recommended here. Perfect Disk defrag is a nice program, and it defragged everything except 2 blocks labelled as Metafiles.
I then used Partition Wizard as a bootable CD, thinking that would be best, and it said my drive was too fragmented to do as I wanted.
So I booted into Win7 again (checked again to see the unmoved files according to Perfectdisk, they are still sitting there in the middle of the Drive Map. Tried to run PW again, and it said it had to run on boot, so I let it. Same message: I need to defrag.

Apparently those 2 blocks are hanging me up. When I look at what files they are, its a list of a bunch of them. Most have the $ in front of the name.

Any suggestions?
Linda,
Strange since PerfectDisk is a good defragger.

My favorite defragger is Contig Contig


Run until is show 0 files defragged. Probably the third run.
use following command lines:
c:
cd \
contig -c -q c:\


If after this Partition Wizard still says you need to defrag, then I've another trick up the sleeve.





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29 May 2010   #9
linda092

Windows 7 64
 
 

I just tried the contig advice (I have used Paragon many times in the past, but since I have already installed PW I don't really want to be trying tons of new software unless necessary)

It didn't seem to do anything. Here is my snippet:


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29 May 2010   #10
linda092

Windows 7 64
 
 

Oh, and here is a pic of the two blocks that won't defrag...


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