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Windows 7: Win 7 isn't working right AT ALL

19 Jun 2010   #11
gregrocker

 

Update your video driver. Check for newer in optional Windows Updates or on the manufacturer's Support Downloads webpage for your model.

For Storage Controller: Update the chipset for your model mobo from manufacturer's Support Downloads webpage.

Unknown device could be anything, often Fax modem, card readers, webcam. If you need it then it will become apparent.


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19 Jun 2010   #12
Scott2010

Windows 7 64 bit
 
 

Update: I tried updating the drivers, but they didn't bring the cards back up; the option to roll back the current drivers was grayed out; uninstalling the cards & reinstalling with the base drivers resulted in the same thing, so I gave up and did another reinstall of the system... Guess what? Same stuff was knocked out device manager, and this was after just an install and the few critical updates it does automatically... and again I can't fix the video drivers. Not only that, but after I tried removing the cards & installing a current driver, which installed fine then rebooted the system, sys restore came on again... So I shut it off and went to bed...

So this morning I do another install for 64-bit; this time everything was ok. The video cards were up, that unknown was gone and the controller wasn't flagged. Only now I have no confidence in this system at all, so I get my quicken installed and start getting my accounts up to date, and get ready to pay bills while I can... I'm in the middle of logging stuff in and bam! blue screen of death.... it reloads, startup repair kicks in, goes for about an hour, and can't fix it. Can't get in via Safe Mode either... Another reinstall....

I'm giving up on the 64 bit until I have more ram, so I install the 32 bit. It comes up and... those devs are knocked out, but not the video, so I'm good, not really concerned about the other two...

But now there's no internet! The ethernet adapters are working, so I call my ISP tech support and guess what? An outage in my area about 20 minutes ago.

All that was a few hours ago, 'net recently came back up, so I'm a bit happier. Only now I'm afraid to update anything at all, and having my drive imaged doesn't help me feel any better about it. Gotta do it though...
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19 Jun 2010   #13
Product FRED

Windows 7 Enterprise 64-bit
 
 

The minimum for x64 is 2GB. It would be wise, like you said, to go with x86 until you get at least another gig of RAM. Most people would say go with at least 4GB for a very smooth experience. Sorry it didn't work out for you and I hope this doesn't discourage you from using Windows 7.

- Fred
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19 Jun 2010   #14
Scott2010

Windows 7 64 bit
 
 

Oh I'm not discouraged... I do like it when it's running right, like now. I'm sure once all these flukey things are ironed it it'll be fine. I just never had so many issues with getting a system up and running.

I forgot to mention that, during the internet outage, I ran 2 cycles of the extended memory test. No problems were found. I'm thinking maybe outdated motherboard drives could be causing all of it, since the hardware is really the only thing that was common across all installs. That or the BIOS. This machine is 3 years old, old enough to be outdated for 7 I guess. I can't find a bios update though; I'll probably be calling the mfr, I think it's Phoenix, on Monday.

Time to look for MB drivers...
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19 Jun 2010   #15
Product FRED

Windows 7 Enterprise 64-bit
 
 

It doesn't seem that old. Like you said, it might be the mobo, but the GPU and processor are fine.
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19 Jun 2010   #16
MacGyvr

Windows 7 Ultimate RTM (Technet)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DeaconFrost View Post

1. System Restore is a joke, and is one of the first things I disable on any system I use, going back to the XP days. I keep my data backed up properly, and if I would need to spend more than two hours fixing the OS, I'd just as soon as rebuild. System Restore rarely works, leaving you with the same options remaining anyway. Why bother?
Absolutely untrue, unfounded and VERY bad advice to give to our readers who may need the safety that System Restore provides them in case of an emergency. I personally have used it hundreds of times on XP, Vista and 7 with no problems. Only on a few occasions has it failed, and that is usually resolved by running it in Safe Mode. PLEASE do not advise novice users to turn off a control in their system that may save them a lot of heartache and time, just because YOU don't like it.
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19 Jun 2010   #17
MacGyvr

Windows 7 Ultimate RTM (Technet)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Scott2010 View Post
Man, I had this big update all typed out, answering most of the questions posed, and after I hit submit, IE said it couldn't display the web page & I lost all of it... bummer.

Anyway, I wiped the drive and did a fresh install to just start over. All I've done so far is update windows, got my bluetooth kb & mouse working, and created an image file. So far IE 32-bit seems to be working fine, and those vids play, so I'll be taking baby steps from here, loading one thing then checking everything. Hope the image backup works better than the restore. *knocks on wood*

I should've pointed out I wasn't upgrading from XP, but doing a full install of Win 7 Home Premium. Something I'm loading isn't sitting well with this system; probably a driver since I never even managed to finish getting all the devices working.

Oh, about ZA, I only loaded it after the first installation (Today's install was my 5th), and after it zapped the os I haven't loaded it again. Same with office, it fragged my second install so I haven't tried it again. I'll check out Open Office instead, you know I never even heard of that.

As far as my level of expertise, I worked in computer support for about 10 years, but that was about 5 years ago and the company I worked for had outdated systems. So my knowledge is definitely outdated. When I built this system, about 3 years ago, I never even heard of dual-core processors, water-cooling systems (water in a pc? ack!), and SATA drives. I had some catching up to do, still do I guess

I'll be back later with an update on how it's going... I'm very anxious to find out what exactly I'm loading that's been fragging the system.

Thanks guys!
FYI, MS Office won't hose your Windows installation, UNLESS something else is already wrong.
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19 Jun 2010   #18
MacGyvr

Windows 7 Ultimate RTM (Technet)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Product FRED View Post
The minimum for x64 is 2GB. It would be wise, like you said, to go with x86 until you get at least another gig of RAM. Most people would say go with at least 4GB for a very smooth experience. Sorry it didn't work out for you and I hope this doesn't discourage you from using Windows 7.

- Fred
I don't see the issue with running 64 bit on a 2GB machine. I have a machine that maxes at 2 GB and it has 64 bit Ultimate 7 on it. It runs GREAT...absolutely no issues.
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21 Jun 2010   #19
DeaconFrost

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by MacGyvr View Post
Absolutely untrue, unfounded and VERY bad advice to give to our readers who may need the safety that System Restore provides them in case of an emergency. I personally have used it hundreds of times on XP, Vista and 7 with no problems. Only on a few occasions has it failed, and that is usually resolved by running it in Safe Mode. PLEASE do not advise novice users to turn off a control in their system that may save them a lot of heartache and time, just because YOU don't like it.
If you want to stop from posting bad advice, I'd suggest following your own advice as well. System Restore has ALWAYS been advised by security companies to be disabled, as it offers a nice hiding spot for malware to reside, so it can continually reinfect the system. That's been a known fact for years now, and has not changed.

Secondly, you may be the only person on any forum to suggest that it works well. If you take the time to read around and do your own research, rather than base your comments on your opinion (the very thing you blasted me for doing), you'll see what I am talking about.

If you don't like what you deem to be my opinion....don't offer your own opinion as your evidence. That's like arguing that chocolate ice cream sucks because you like vanilla.

In all honestly, please do some reading online. In the rare event System Restore works....all it does it put your system back to the spot right before you had the issue anyway...setting the system up for a repeat. it is also a known fact that storing your "back-up" or recovery method on the same physical drive is a bad idea as well. Add in the fact that System Restore can only fix software issues...which are usually easy to solve, and better to solve than rolling backwards...and it is very hard to make a case to keep System Restore enabled. I'm not even going to mention the point about SSDs and their size limitations...but that would be yet another strike against System Restore.

EDIT: Just found this link as well on these very Boards. Check out #13.
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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by MacGyvr View Post
I don't see the issue with running 64 bit on a 2GB machine. I have a machine that maxes at 2 GB and it has 64 bit Ultimate 7 on it. It runs GREAT...absolutely no issues.
I'll break our tradtition and agree with you on this one. Although running it on a system with 2 GB cancels out one of it's biggest benefits, Windows 7 x64 should run just fine with only 2 GB of system memory. You will have slightly less headroom for apps, given the fact that x64 OSes use a little more memory, but that doesn't mean you'll have issues with stability. I also had a system running on 2 GB while waiting for a memory upgrade, and it ran just fine.
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21 Jun 2010   #20
MacGyvr

Windows 7 Ultimate RTM (Technet)
 
 

I stand firmly by my comment that it was irresponsible of you to advise a novice user to turn off System Restore, no matter what you may think about it. It DOES work, and should be the first line of defense in case of a system failure. It can give you the chance to fix a problem before having to completely reinstall.

The thread you referenced clearly states that this is only a suggestion for those severely pressed for hard drive space and also warns of the inability to perform a restore. It is NOT listed as a blanket optimization strategy in any way.
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