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Windows 7: Windows 7 Bug?

23 Jun 2010   #41
Product FRED

Windows 7 Enterprise 64-bit
 
 

This is now a Mythbusters thread.




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23 Jun 2010   #42
CarlTR6

Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Win7User512 View Post
I tested it on my x64 Win7 with 4GB RAM using a little program I wrote. I tried 50, 100, 500, then 1000 Notepads.

At 500 and 1000, my system was unusable. At 1000 Notepads, it warned me that resources were short and asked me if I wanted to stop Aero.

At no time did it bluescreen or otherwise error. I just couldn't do anything on the system.
IN that case I want MS to give me my money back. Windows 7 is no good.
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23 Jun 2010   #43
Win7User512

Windows 7 x64 / Same
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by CarlTR6 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Win7User512 View Post
I tested it on my x64 Win7 with 4GB RAM using a little program I wrote. I tried 50, 100, 500, then 1000 Notepads.

At 500 and 1000, my system was unusable. At 1000 Notepads, it warned me that resources were short and asked me if I wanted to stop Aero.

At no time did it bluescreen or otherwise error. I just couldn't do anything on the system.
IN that case I want MS to give me my money back. Windows 7 is no good.
Immediately. You can't edit 1000 of your text files in Notepad. What a rip off!
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24 Jun 2010   #44
A Guy

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1
 
 

Going to test how many laughing babies I can open at once, be back later

A Guy
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24 Jun 2010   #45
Dwarf

Windows 8.1 Pro RTM x64
 
 

I wouldn't call that a bug, rather a limitation of a system's finite resources.

Now, if you want a bug, what about the shutdown command? If you try this from a command prompt with the /l switch on its own it works, but try adding a /t xxx switch in order to delay the operation, it fails to work. The bug seems to be just limited to when the /l switch is used in combination with any of the other switches.
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24 Jun 2010   #46
Kari

 

Dwarf, /l switch is to log off, /t to set up delay when shutting down, so logically thinking those two switches should not be used together.
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24 Jun 2010   #47
Dwarf

Windows 8.1 Pro RTM x64
 
 

I know. But if you check the syntax of the command, you will find that the switches can be used together. Certainly, the /r switch works to initiate a system restart, either immediately on its own or delayed when used in conjunction with the /t xxx switch.
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24 Jun 2010   #48
Kari

 

Yes, because the /t switch works with any other switch that turns the computer off, completely or rebooting it. I really thi8nk it works as it is meant to work, setting delay when and only shutting down.

Just my two €-cents...
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24 Jun 2010   #49
Dwarf

Windows 8.1 Pro RTM x64
 
 

OK, here's the syntax:

Code:
Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7600]
Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
C:\Users\Dwarf>shutdown /?
Usage: shutdown [/i | /l | /s | /r | /g | /a | /p | /h | /e] [/f]
[/m \\computer][/t xxx][/d [p|u:]xx:yy [/c "comment"]]
No args Display help. This is the same as typing /?.
/? Display help. This is the same as not typing any options.
/i Display the graphical user interface (GUI).
This must be the first option.
/l Log off. This cannot be used with /m or /d options.
/s Shutdown the computer.
/r Shutdown and restart the computer.
/g Shutdown and restart the computer. After the system is
rebooted, restart any registered applications.
/a Abort a system shutdown.
This can only be used during the time-out period.
/p Turn off the local computer with no time-out or warning.
Can be used with /d and /f options.
/h Hibernate the local computer.
Can be used with the /f option.
/e Document the reason for an unexpected shutdown of a computer.
/m \\computer Specify the target computer.
/t xxx Set the time-out period before shutdown to xxx seconds.
The valid range is 0-315360000 (10 years), with a default of 30.
If the timeout period is greater than 0, the /f parameter is
implied.
/c "comment" Comment on the reason for the restart or shutdown.
Maximum of 512 characters allowed.
/f Force running applications to close without forewarning users.
The /f parameter is implied when a value greater than 0 is
specified for the /t parameter.
/d [p|u:]xx:yy Provide the reason for the restart or shutdown.
p indicates that the restart or shutdown is planned.
u indicates that the reason is user defined.
If neither p nor u is specified the restart or shutdown is
unplanned.
xx is the major reason number (positive integer less than 256).
yy is the minor reason number (positive integer less than 65536).
 
Reasons on this computer:
(E = Expected U = Unexpected P = planned, C = customer defined)
Type Major Minor Title
U 0 0 Other (Unplanned)
E 0 0 Other (Unplanned)
E P 0 0 Other (Planned)
U 0 5 Other Failure: System Unresponsive
E 1 1 Hardware: Maintenance (Unplanned)
E P 1 1 Hardware: Maintenance (Planned)
E 1 2 Hardware: Installation (Unplanned)
E P 1 2 Hardware: Installation (Planned)
E 2 2 Operating System: Recovery (Planned)
E P 2 2 Operating System: Recovery (Planned)
P 2 3 Operating System: Upgrade (Planned)
E 2 4 Operating System: Reconfiguration (Unplanned)
E P 2 4 Operating System: Reconfiguration (Planned)
P 2 16 Operating System: Service pack (Planned)
2 17 Operating System: Hot fix (Unplanned)
P 2 17 Operating System: Hot fix (Planned)
2 18 Operating System: Security fix (Unplanned)
P 2 18 Operating System: Security fix (Planned)
E 4 1 Application: Maintenance (Unplanned)
E P 4 1 Application: Maintenance (Planned)
E P 4 2 Application: Installation (Planned)
E 4 5 Application: Unresponsive
E 4 6 Application: Unstable
U 5 15 System Failure: Stop error
U 5 19 Security issue
E 5 19 Security issue
E P 5 19 Security issue
E 5 20 Loss of network connectivity (Unplanned)
U 6 11 Power Failure: Cord Unplugged
U 6 12 Power Failure: Environment
P 7 0 Legacy API shutdown
C:\Users\Dwarf>
This would appear to imply that the switches can be used as I stated above, i.e. shutdown /l /t xxx
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24 Jun 2010   #50
Kari

 

Dwarf, with all due respect, I know the syntax. I understand your point, I'm just trying to make you to understand mine.

The explanation of both switches in question is IMO self explanatory, logging off and delaying the shutdown. The /t switch is clearly to be used only when the user wants to delay the shutdown: /t xxx Set the time-out period before shutdown to xxx seconds. When logging off, the computer is not shutdown thus /t-switch is not meant to be used.
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