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Windows 7: Windows 7 not as popular as I thought...

28 Jun 2010   #41
fseal

Windows 7 x64 Ultimate
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
Yeah, so many of us here have Technet and don't realize how much this stuff costs the average joe. I mean seriously, you can get Technet Standard for $199 and get dozens of copies of Windows, Server and Office....or you can spend $200+ and get 1 copy of Windows 7 retail. It just doesn't make sense.
Well the Technet subscriptions are for evaluation and testing use ONLY. They CANNOT be used in any production or end user environment.

Technet is basically an MSDN subscription with the dev tools, the same restrictions apply to the MSDN sub as well.

I.e. an IT person would get a technet subscription and use it for testing in-house software or integration of various MS software into their internal network. Then when it came time to deploy they have to buy real liscences. Same goes with any "home users" with technet accounts. They can use the software to test capabilities/compatibilities or to test software they write, but the machine that the software is actually developed ON or any machine used in the normal way a person uses an OS on a computer must have a real liscence.

So yeah it does make sense.


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28 Jun 2010   #42
gregrocker

 

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
Why do that? Win7 leaves nothing to be desired.
Money...I probably don't need the Ultimate, but I'd want to at least get the Pro, and that's about $140 for an oem. If M$ would just be reasonable (around $40 to $50 bucks), I'd probably upgrade every time.
Good reason.

You'd make a good beta tester for Windows 8, which will hook you up with deals like the $50 upgrades and party-favor Signature Ultimate edition we got during 7beta. Plus you kinda get married to the OS you know it so well and feel a part of it.
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28 Jun 2010   #43
Aphelion

Windows 7 Home Premium
 
 

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But if only it was OSX.....ahhh... OSX what a great OS, it always works, its easy to use, and its based off a 'nix kernel.
You would never know it over on the Mac Pro audio forums, it's slow an inefficient according to most of the pro's using it for FCP and Logic Studio. Same old story, some users are reverting to older software so it can be run on Tiger as the older OS is much more efficient.

I have OSX (Snow Leopard) on this PC, Win-7 uses far less resources, plus Win-7's graphics are 2-3x's as fast.

As for overtaking Vista... 6 months, word is spreading.

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28 Jun 2010   #44
Jugador

XP pro
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post

Good reason.

You'd make a good beta tester for Windows 8, which will hook you up with deals like the $50 upgrades and party-favor Signature Ultimate edition we got during 7beta. Plus you kinda get married to the OS you know it so well and feel a part of it.
Yeah, that'd be fun, where do I sign up!
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28 Jun 2010   #45
pparks1

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by fseal View Post
Well the Technet subscriptions are for evaluation and testing use ONLY. They CANNOT be used in any production or end user environment.
Number 1: All of the people here with Technet are using that software on their everyday home use PC's. They don't have other retail licenses other than those that come with their Technet account.

Number 2: I called Microsoft on this and they basically said if this was a personal use machine at home (or a couple of them)...I was fully entitled to use the Technet software in any way that I saw fit. As long as I didn't share it with others, and I didn't use it to support a business network...I was not in violation of the EULA. They maintained that my use of other software and games on my workstation encompassed ongoing testing and evaluation and that it was just fine.
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29 Jun 2010   #46
periboob

Windows 7 Pro 64
 
 

This is a good topic for newcomers to Windows 7 such as myself. I expect a plot of the sales of the various versions of Windows would show the "7" is doing very well. I agree with the original point that the publicity/media has suggested that everyone has switched. That does not matter much to me, I am usually a late-adopter. What has surprised me, however is that I have had several substantial disappointments, when all the media promised that Vista was lame, and 7 was "...what Vista should have been..." I just thought Vista-2-Win7 was going to be a walk in the park.

Probably that I am just beginning the learning curve, I guess I will adjust. But I would love to water-board the guy who decided remove the Favorites pane (and toolbar) from Windows Explorer, and to push more "ribbons" on us vs. a user-configurable toolbar. I love new features, but I am just too old to cheerfully accept the loss of the old ways of doing things.
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29 Jun 2010   #47
unifex

Windows 7 Ultimate (x64)
 
 

Most of the issues here have already been covered many times, but I guess I'll a bit regarding upgrading.

I give you an example. I have a Pentium III machine running Win2K since about the year 2000. The maintenance cost over 10 years - once I added a hard drive, so about $100. It runs the same software as several years ago and it does that as well as when it was purchased. Is there any need to upgrade? NO!

Now imagine you're running a doctor's office. What you're running there is basically a patients database. Yes, it's complicated, yes it should be accessible from any terminal in the office, even at the same time and so on. But you've got it running. Do you want to upgrade it just because Microsoft came up with a new OS? NO!

You see, most people use their PC's as TOOLs. Similar to hammers and dental machines. When do you upgrade your tools? Well, either they get old and unusable or there is some major new functionality that you're missing out. But in a small company, such as a doctor's office you're usually not missing out on anything until they come up with a new and exciting professional software for you and that does not happen very often.

Same for the "average Joe home user". So, who's upgrading really? Well, enthusiasts, who want to try out the new OS - i.e. people who are interested in the OS itself - and gamers, who want to run the latest and greatest as fast as possible. But this is a very small percentage of users. So Windows 7 is selling with new machines and that's how the market share is growing.

As to a purchasing decisions of the OP - that's a personal matter. Myself, I just buy a new PC when I need one and then it comes with whichever OS is current. Yes, I upgraded to 7 from Vista, but ... 7 is just so much nicer .
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29 Jun 2010   #48
housry23

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Windows 7 is the highest selling OS in history. It has sold more copies than any other OS when comparing other OS after being out as long as Win 7 has. Even XP. yes more users are still using XP, but that is a money factor and a lot of businesses won't upgrade until SP1 has been released. Wait about 6 months after SP1 and see where Windows 7 is in comparison to other Windows OS.
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29 Jun 2010   #49
BCXtreme

Windows 7 Home Premium x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by fseal View Post
Well the Technet subscriptions are for evaluation and testing use ONLY. They CANNOT be used in any production or end user environment.
Number 1: All of the people here with Technet are using that software on their everyday home use PC's. They don't have other retail licenses other than those that come with their Technet account.

Number 2: I called Microsoft on this and they basically said if this was a personal use machine at home (or a couple of them)...I was fully entitled to use the Technet software in any way that I saw fit. As long as I didn't share it with others, and I didn't use it to support a business network...I was not in violation of the EULA. They maintained that my use of other software and games on my workstation encompassed ongoing testing and evaluation and that it was just fine.
I've always thought that stuff like that didn't apply to personal use, and I'm glad MS agrees. Maybe Technet is in my future after all!

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by unifex View Post
Most of the issues here have already been covered many times, but I guess I'll a bit regarding upgrading.

I give you an example. I have a Pentium III machine running Win2K since about the year 2000. The maintenance cost over 10 years - once I added a hard drive, so about $100. It runs the same software as several years ago and it does that as well as when it was purchased. Is there any need to upgrade? NO!
That assumes that you don't want to do anything that was invented after around the year 2000. Not to mention the argument isn't really sound because you admit around the end of your post that you have another machine with Windows 7, so obviously you wouldn't need to upgrade the old PC if you also have a new PC.

I know someone that is still using Windows 95 and still doesn't even see the need to have an Internet connection, but those people are in the minority.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by unifex View Post
Now imagine you're running a doctor's office. What you're running there is basically a patients database. Yes, it's complicated, yes it should be accessible from any terminal in the office, even at the same time and so on. But you've got it running. Do you want to upgrade it just because Microsoft came up with a new OS? NO!
You might want to upgrade though when the OS you're running becomes so old and outdated that no one you hire knows how to use it anymore.
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29 Jun 2010   #50
Jugador

XP pro
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by periboob View Post

But I would love to water-board the guy who decided remove the Favorites pane (and toolbar) from Windows Explorer, and to push more "ribbons" on us vs. a user-configurable toolbar.
You might want to try Firefox Browser. It's the #1 independent browser, and it's free. I use it, and it works just fine.

(check out the add-ons page. Literally thousands of add-ons.
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