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Windows 7: Several Power Questions

24 Jul 2010   #11
karlsnooks

MS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-bit
 
 

Glennc,

Tripp Lite UPS Systems, Surge Protection, Cables, PDUs, and Rack Systems

This company I recommend. They also provide good documentation.


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24 Jul 2010   #12
Mellon Head

Win 7 Pro x64/Win 10 Pro x64 dual boot
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by CarlTR6 View Post
No surge protector - at least no consumer surge protector that the average person can afford - will protect against a lightning strike. Even those the power company installs will not protect against a direct strike.
So true. My company just had a call on Friday regarding a communication system that we had installed a few months ago. Lightning had struck the power transformer just outside of the building. They have an incredible surge protection network, and a backup supply that will run their system for 24 hours, and the strike still took out half of their installation, as well as the transformer.

It isn't wise to trifle with Mother Nature.

And Karlsnooks is right about those Tripp-Lite UPSes. We use them too.
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24 Jul 2010   #13
glennc

Windows 7 Ultimate
 
 

Gentlemen,
Again you amaze me with the amount of information and experience. Thanks again.
As CarlTR6 noted although I am further south, we are the lightning capitol of the US. Its a wonder I only lost one monitor to lightning strikes. Karlsnook I appreciate the recommendation and the confirmation by Mellon Head. I will definitely look there first.
Having just glimpsed the site, I see that I need more information to choose the appropriate rating/model.
May I ask how does one go about choosing the right model UPS. What information do I need to gather?
Good evening to all where ever you reside.
glennc
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24 Jul 2010   #14
CarlTR6

Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit
 
 

Glenn, My guess is the second one on the list under desktops, AVR55OU would work just fine for you. It depends on how much battery back up you need. that model has four battery back up receptacles and four that are not battery backed up. All eight are surge protected. I have an older UPS with three receptacles that are battery backed up and three that are only surge protected. If I were buying now, I would buy the AVR55OU. My modem and router are in another location and are plugged into another surge protector. I have my tower, monitor and powered USB hub plugged into the battery backup receptacles. My printer is plugged into the a surge protected receptacle. All you need is for your essentials to be on battery backup so that you can properly shut down in case of a power failure.
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25 Jul 2010   #15
glennc

Windows 7 Ultimate
 
 

Howdy CarlTR6,
The way you explained it makes sense. Got me thinking more clearly about it. Really just need the tower and monitor backed up, I think. Possibly it wouldn't hurt to have the DSL and modem on it just for line fluctuation. Will check out that model, I won't be waiting for hopefully large backups to finish.
Thanks you Sir.
glennc
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25 Jul 2010   #16
CarlTR6

Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit
 
 

You are welcome, Glenn. The less you have plugged into the battery backup receptacles, the less you will have using the battery when the power goes out. That is why I say only plug the essentials into the battery backup. If you were doing a backup when the the power goes out, you would need to abort the backup and shut down. You only get around 15 - 17 minutes of battery life with the essentials plugged in which is plenty of time to do an orderly shutdown.

If your area of the state is like mine, most power outages are just a brief flicker and the power comes right back on. The battery backup just keeps the computer going and the computer never shuts down and reboots.
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25 Jul 2010   #17
glennc

Windows 7 Ultimate
 
 

After a quick look at Compusa, under Tripp-lite, I see several USP models in the 550 range. they range in price but are around tripp-Lites MSRP for the AVR550. Now the actual AVR550 is like twice the MSRP at $129. What would you consider the differences to be and would it be worth the doubled price?
glennc
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25 Jul 2010   #18
CarlTR6

Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit
 
 

I think KarlSnooks can better answer your question as I do not have a grasp on the differences and quality. I would say that for normal home use, such as you and I do, a less expensive brand is adequate and will do the job. I am using an APC brand that was around $80.00 when I purchased it five years ago. However, I do not know what I may have "sacrificed" by purchasing a less expensive brand. When I replace this one, I will opt for a Tripp-lite.
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25 Jul 2010   #19
pparks1

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by glennc View Post
3. How many of the members consider a UPS as necessary equipment and always use one?
Here, Here. I'm a UPS user at home and always plan to use one. For the most part, they aren't that much more expensive than a quality power strip. Second, they usually offer guarantees on the safety of the equipment plugged into them. I know that my APC's offer a $25,000 warranty as far as I remember.

So, I've got 4 UPS systems in my house. 1 for my server, 1 for my desktop, 1 for my wife's laptop in the kitchen, and 1 protecting my infrastructure gear (switch, router, cable modem, etc).
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25 Jul 2010   #20
glennc

Windows 7 Ultimate
 
 

Howdy Gentlemen,
I was comparing specifications and have seen some differences. Not that I understand them fully. The "joule" rating for surge protection goes from 200s to 480 in the under $99 category of Tripp-lite products. A question that pops to mind is that regular surge protectors have in the 2 to 3000 plus joule ratings. That seems to be quite a difference for actual surge protection I awaiting eagerly being put right on the values of the joule rating necessity. It seems that the joule ratings of those UPS is much inferior to stand alone suppressors. Also I know there is interaction between the UPS and the OS, but for the life of me, I have no idea what it might be. I did see an "unattended shut down" mode for the more expensive model. Some allow the DSL modem to be surge protected. Is this a good idea?
Appreciate you'alls help and any further explanation, thanks.
glennc
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