Will this graphics card work on my computer?

[douggoud]

Hi, I recently got a new desktop, an Acer Aspire X1420G-U5832, 1TB, quad-core processor desktop. Well, I was planning on using games on this computer, but I also needed autodesk to run on this computer. It does, but not very well. So I wanted to upgrade the graphics card. I purchased a SAPPHIRE 100293L Radeon HD 5570 1GB 128-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready Low Profile Ready Video Card from newegg .com Newegg.com - SAPPHIRE 100293L Radeon HD 5570 1GB 128-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready Low Profile Ready Video Card . but I'm worried that it wont fit in my computer, or that you can't upgrade its graphics, because I can't find the graphics card (I may know alot of things about computers, but the graphics card and motherbored, etc. Thats something I know very little about). Heres some pictures of the inside of the computer.

Now, if someone could tell me which one of these is the graphics card and how I replace it with the new one would be a BIG help (like it would for anyone that asks for help on here, lol) but yeah, any help would be much appreciated.

 

[DMHolt57]

the motherboard has built in nforce 430 graphics, can't find the proper specs for the motherboard to tell if there is 16x lane avail...

 

[Maguscreed]

The graphics card is apparently integrated.
Meaning the chip is on the motherboard somewhere and physically a part of it.

Unfortunately from what I can determine your system has no expansion slot into which that card can be plugged as it apparently has no pci-e slot.
AX1420G-U5832 | Product Model

DMholt - are you sure it has a pci-e slot, from the images that slot appears to be a regular pci.

 

[paulpicks21]

I found an older thread regarding pretty much the same thing on here, it does't look great from what I gather from it.

But may help a little

http://www.sevenforums.com/graphic-cards/170512-new-computer-question.html

 

[bobkn]

I found an older thread regarding pretty much the same thing on here, it does't look great from what I gather from it.

But may help a little

http://www.sevenforums.com/graphic-cards/170512-new-computer-question.html

I participated in the earlier thread.

The Walmart specs for the system claimed that it had two PCI-E X16 slots, and two PCI-E X1 slots.

From the photos from douggood, looks more like one PCI-E X1 and one PCI (not express). (I guess that it's PCI, due to its placement near the edge of the motherboard.)

Short version: no PCI-E graphics upgrade possible. Any graphics card upgrade is dicey, thanks to the Acer's 220W PSU. (It's a small form factor system, 4" thick, 10 1/2" tall.)

It may be posssible to use a low-profile PCI graphics card. Unfortunately, the choices will be limited, and the prices high compared to PCI-E.

Your best choice would be to use it as Walmart and Acer intended: it's an appliance PC. It's quite impressive for its price: AMD quad core, 4 GB of RAM, 1 TB hard drive, all for $400US.

 

[douggoud]

I found an older thread regarding pretty much the same thing on here, it does't look great from what I gather from it.

But may help a little

http://www.sevenforums.com/graphic-cards/170512-new-computer-question.html

I participated in the earlier thread.

The Walmart specs for the system claimed that it had two PCI-E X16 slots, and two PCI-E X1 slots.

From the photos from douggood, looks more like one PCI-E X1 and one PCI (not express). (I guess that it's PCI, due to its placement near the edge of the motherboard.)

Short version: no PCI-E graphics upgrade possible. Any graphics card upgrade is dicey, thanks to the Acer's 220W PSU. (It's a small form factor system, 4" thick, 10 1/2" tall.)

It may be posssible to use a low-profile PCI graphics card. Unfortunately, the choices will be limited, and the prices high compared to PCI-E.

Your best choice would be to use it as Walmart and Acer intended: it's an appliance PC. It's quite impressive for its price: AMD quad core, 4 GB of RAM, 1 TB hard drive, all for $400US.

So the graphics card I got won't work? The one I got IS a low profile one. Is there a way to change the motherboard and make it possible to make a graphics upgrade, because I really need a better graphics card, the one in this thing can't run things very well that need more power (graphically anyways). The new graphics card actually doesn't take too much more power too (at least thats what they said on newegg). I mean, I think the graphics card in my moms old 2002 Dell was better than this one, which is kinda sad. There has to be a way to do some wiring to fix it, right? I'm about willing to do anything right now.

 

[bobkn]

So the graphics card I got won't work? The one I got IS a low profile one. Is there a way to change the motherboard and make it possible to make a graphics upgrade, because I really need a better graphics card, the one in this thing can't run things very well that need more power (graphically anyways). The new graphics card actually doesn't take too much more power too (at least thats what they said on newegg). I mean, I think the graphics card in my moms old 2002 Dell was better than this one, which is kinda sad. There has to be a way to do some wiring to fix it, right? I'm about willing to do anything right now.

The only practical way to change the motherboard is to replace it.

While you're at it. replace the case and power supply. You can re-use the CPU, RAM, and drives. (The optical drive might be a challenge in a regular case, if it's a laptop style one.) You probably can't re-use Windows, as it'd be an OEM license (tied to the original motherboard).

If I'm wrong about the PCI-E slot, I apologize. I'm fairly sure about it, though.

Motherboards at Newegg:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...&SpeTabStoreType=&AdvancedSearch=1&srchInDesc=

(About $50. Avoid the open box deals, which may not include I/O shields.)

Antec 300 case w/ 430W PSU:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129065

($95 + $15 shipping). You might need a normal DVD burner for about $20. If you can't transfer the CPU cooler from the Acer, that might be another $20 or so. Windows 7 Home Premium OEM, another $100. Total, without graphics card, approx. $300.

 

[douggoud]

actually, in response to your last post, The one I got is a PCI graphics card, I looked up PCI graphics cards, and luckly it popped up, but where in gods name would I put it? (and I don't care if I have to leave the side off of the case. I only say that because I see a slot, but if I were to put that card in it would stick out the side, though I'm guessing that what I'm looking at is for memory expansion). Do I need to take more pictures? Because I can if you need them to find it. $300? Thats about as much as this whole system, I don't know if I can fork out that much just to use a new graphics card. $50 would be easy for one of those new plugs for more power, but $300 is quite a bit

 

[Phone Man]

actually, in response to your last post, The one I got is a PCI graphics card, I looked up PCI graphics cards, and luckly it popped up, but where in gods name would I put it? (and I don't care if I have to leave the side off of the case. I only say that because I see a slot, but if I were to put that card in it would stick out the side, though I'm guessing that what I'm looking at is for memory expansion). Do I need to take more pictures? Because I can if you need them to find it. $300? Thats about as much as this whole system, I don't know if I can fork out that much just to use a new graphics card. $50 would be easy for one of those new plugs for more power, but $300 is quite a bit

Sorry but the card you got is a PCI Express (PCIe) and will not fit in a PCI slot.

Jim

 

[bobkn]

Sorry but the card you got is a PCI Express (PCIe) and will not fit in a PCI slot.

Jim

Right. It was inconsiderate of Intel to name their new slot architecture "PCI Express", as it's completely incompatible with PCI cards and vice versa.

 

[douggoud]

thanks for your help guys, ends up that the slot was a PCI-E slot (or the card was a PCI) either way I fits and it works without a power upgrade. Thanks again

 

[bobkn]

thanks for your help guys, ends up that the slot was a PCI-E slot (or the card was a PCI) either way I fits and it works without a power upgrade. Thanks again

The card fit in that slot, way over near the edge of the motherboard?

The Sapphire 5570 that you gave a link for is definitely a PCI-E card. I'm not sure that it exists in PCI form.

If you'd like to stress test your upgraded system, this utility is a killer:

FurMark: VGA Stress Test, Graphics Card and GPU Stability Test, Burn-in Test, OpenGL Benchmark and GPU Temperature | oZone3D.Net

(I don't know if they still do it, but AMD used to detect Furmark in their drivers, and prevent it from maxxing out the card. A work around: renaming the Furmark executable.)

 

[douggoud]

thanks for your help guys, ends up that the slot was a PCI-E slot (or the card was a PCI) either way I fits and it works without a power upgrade. Thanks again

The card fit in that slot, way over near the edge of the motherboard?

The Sapphire 5570 that you gave a link for is definitely a PCI-E card. I'm not sure that it exists in PCI form.

If you'd like to stress test your upgraded system, this utility is a killer:

FurMark: VGA Stress Test, Graphics Card and GPU Stability Test, Burn-in Test, OpenGL Benchmark and GPU Temperature | oZone3D.Net

(I don't know if they still do it, but AMD used to detect Furmark in their drivers, and prevent it from maxxing out the card. A work around: renaming the Furmark executable.)

you mean the long slot? yeah, i don't know much about these things, but either ati makes both pci-e and pci versions of the same graphics card, or the slot is a pci-e slot (or vise-vera, i forget), either way, it works, all my games took off and autodesk works (better), WO!

 

[Maguscreed]

yeah I'm confused by this I could find no mention of a pci-e expansion slot in the info for that board.

Another utility that stresses dx11 cards well is
Heaven DX11 Benchmark | Unigine: real-time 3D engine (game, simulation, visualization and VR)

 

[douggoud]

actually i think the walmart website mentioned some slots, i forget wether they were pci or pci-e slots that they mentioned in the specs

 

[Maguscreed]

Yeah the 'official listing' for it doesn't even mention the one slot that is obviously there in the picture.

 

[essenbe]

See if this may help you.

 

[DaveStaem87]

Question for OP

I have the same computer and am also considering updating this ancient graphics card.

#1 i need to know if the one you got work is good with the power supply as is
#2 how much did you pay for the card and where
#3 does it use PCI or PCI- express
#4 what are some of the games you are running with it
#5 does it run stuff like photoshop ok ?

Thanks for your help !

 

[douggoud]

I have the same computer and am also considering updating this ancient graphics card.

#1 i need to know if the one you got work is good with the power supply as is
#2 how much did you pay for the card and where
#3 does it use PCI or PCI- express
#4 what are some of the games you are running with it
#5 does it run stuff like photoshop ok ?

Thanks for your help !

1) Yes, I have had no problems in about 2 months of use related to power or any other functions of the computer
2) I got it for somewhere around 50 to 60 (70 something with the shipping) at newegg .com
3) You just insert the card into the slot, like a memory upgrade, and use the low profile mounts, otherwise it'll seem confusing as to how it fits in there (they come with it by the way)
4) I've run GTA 4 on fairly high graphics with little lag, I've also played portal 2 on high graphics, Far Cry 2 and Amnesia work pretty well on here too, as well as Need For Speed Shift I can run at a pretty high graphics setting. So all the new games run pretty well on the new graphics card, and games like richard burns rally (old 2005 games and older) run very well too.
5) Yep, I've run photoshop on here, does very well with that program, as well as autodesk.

any other questions? I'd be glad to help.

 

[TCASE0]

I have the same computer.. Acer aspire x1420g, I need to also upgrade my grpahics card to play The Witcher 2, can somebody recommend me a graphics card that fits and that will support the game and also run well with my power supply(220w)?