Windows 8 Consumer Preview due February 29: why it's not called beta

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Summary: The Windows 8 Consumer Preview will be available for download on February 29. Why isn’t it called a beta? Blame Google. And Apple. And Microsoft. Especially Microsoft.
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The CP at the end of Feb, was hoping for next week :D

This will be interesting.
 

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Gigabyte GA-Z77X UD3H, f18
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will there be a windows 8 update advisor to use
 

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acer aspire x3950
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windows 7 home prem 64 bit
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onboard i only play game using onlive cloud gaming
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onboard
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i-inc 19 wide screen
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640 gig
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250
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small form
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fan
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logitech
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motor mouse
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50 meg
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More than likely but, haven't seen or heard of one yet.

They did say that any system that can run Windows 7 can run Windows 8.
 

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Intel Core i5-3570K 4.6GHz
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Gigabyte GA-Z77X UD3H, f18
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8GB (2X4GB) DDR3 1600 Corsair Vengeance CL8 1.5v
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Sapphire HD 7770 Vapor-X OC 1GB DDR5
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Onboard VIA VT2021
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22" LCD Dell
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Samsung 840Pro 128GB SSD,
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Corsair HX650W
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Cooler Master Storm Scout
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Corsair H80 2x12cm Noctua NF P12 , 2x14cm case fans
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Logitech Wave
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CM Sentinel
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Avast
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Opera Next
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Desktop: eSATA ports,
External eSATA Seagate 500GB SATA2 7200rpm,
External WD USB 500GB
The question for me, is what real advantage that 8 has over 7? I'm not talking about cosmetics or redesigning, but things that 8 can accomplish that 7 can't.
 

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DIY
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W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE
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Phenom II 1090T w/Noctua NH-D14 /**4400+ X2 w/CM Hyper TX 3
Motherboard
ASRock 890FX Deluxe 4/**A8N-SLI
Memory
2 x 2GB Patriot PGS34g1600LLKA/**4x1GB Corsair VS
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EVGA GTX460 SC/**EVGA 8800GTS
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Asus Xonar D2X/**Xonar D1
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Acer X233H, Dell E152FPc /**LG M237-WD
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1920x1080 & 1024x768/**1980x1080
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WDC 2TB, 1.5TB, 1TB, 500GB,Seagate 500GB , Maxtor 80GB /**500GB Seagate & WDC 1TB Black
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CM RS600 w/ APC BX1000G/**Antec 500 TP w/ APC BX1000
Case
HAF922/**Antec 1040IIB
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3x200mm, 1x140 and 1x120mm/**5x80mm fans
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Logitech Media USB/**Saitek Eclipse
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Cordless Trackman Wheel/**Ditto
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3.3Mbps
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SB 560 5.1 w/ Sennheiser RS140/**Creative T20 speakers, Dvico FusionHDTV7 Gold RT, Cisco E3000, HP 5510V AIO, Linksys E3000, Belkin F5U237 hub and **F5D8055 adapter
(** = 2nd rig)
That is a one sided question, I'm sure they can both accomplish the same things.
But how fast they do them, added features, etc.

If anyone doesn't think Windows 8 is for them, for any reason, then Windows 7 is an excellent OS.

Windows 8 Will Be a Winner: 10 Reasons Why

From post #13
• Improved multi-monitor support
• Native USB 3.0 stack
• Reduced boot time
• Significantly lower memory footprint
• Storage Spaces (virtualized storage pools)
• New files system (ReFS)
• Improved SSD support and performance
• Built-in antivirus and spyware protection
• Improved automatic updating system (less frequent reboot required updates)
• Built in support for creating system images and full system restore
• Built-in ISO mounting
• Built-in VHD mounting
• Built-in PDF support
• Automatic cloud based backup of system settings, Personal files, and Metro applications
• New interface for Shadow Copy
• Windows Store sells desktop software
• Drastically improved task manager
• Drastically improved file management allowing you to pause file copying jobs and finish them later
• Windows 8 has basically become rootkit proof when combined with UEFI
• Hyper-V

Various reviews of the beta candidate builds confirm noticeably improved performance over Windows 7 SP1.
 

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PC/Desktop
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76~2.0
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Windows 7 Ult x64 - SP1/ Windows 8 Pro x64
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Intel Core i5-3570K 4.6GHz
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-Z77X UD3H, f18
Memory
8GB (2X4GB) DDR3 1600 Corsair Vengeance CL8 1.5v
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Sapphire HD 7770 Vapor-X OC 1GB DDR5
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Onboard VIA VT2021
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22" LCD Dell
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1680x1050
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Samsung 840Pro 128GB SSD,
Seagate Barracuda 500GB SATA2 7200rpm 32MB cache, Seagate Barracuda 1TB SATA2 7200rpm 32MB cache,
PSU
Corsair HX650W
Case
Cooler Master Storm Scout
Cooling
Corsair H80 2x12cm Noctua NF P12 , 2x14cm case fans
Keyboard
Logitech Wave
Mouse
CM Sentinel
Internet Speed
Dismal
Antivirus
Avast
Browser
Opera Next
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Haswell laptop: HP Envy 17t-j, i7-4700MQ, GeForce 740M 2GB DDR3, 17.3" Full HD 1920x1080, 16GB RAM, Samsung 840 Pro 128GB, 1TB Hitachi 7200 HDD,
Desktop: eSATA ports,
External eSATA Seagate 500GB SATA2 7200rpm,
External WD USB 500GB
I guess that we'll find out soon

Reduced boot time
Meh (6 - 10 seconds on my PC).

Significantly lower memory footprint
Good (uses 1/3 less RAM on my PC). :)

New files system (ReFS)
I read somewhere (ZDNet?) that is only going to be on the W8 Server.

Built-in VHD mounting
Doesn't W7 already have that?
That's how I'm running Windows 8 DP.

Drastically improved task manager
What's better about it (apart from the Network stats)?
It still doesn't seem to do half the things that Process Explorer does.

Windows 8 has basically become rootkit proof when combined with UEFI
I read somewhere (ZDNet?) that someone has already figured out how to bypass that protection.

Various reviews of the beta candidate builds confirm noticeably improved performance over Windows 7 SP1.
It doesn't seem to be slower than W7 on my PC. :)
 

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12GB DDR3 1333 G-Skill (4GB x 2), G-Skill (2GB x 2)
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Realtek?
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Cooler Master
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Antec GX300 Tower
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DSL
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Boot time would be nice, but I'm guessing that is for using UEFI, but if I understand, that requires hardware designed for it (motherboard), which mine isn't.
 

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ASRock 890FX Deluxe 4/**A8N-SLI
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2 x 2GB Patriot PGS34g1600LLKA/**4x1GB Corsair VS
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EVGA GTX460 SC/**EVGA 8800GTS
Sound Card
Asus Xonar D2X/**Xonar D1
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Acer X233H, Dell E152FPc /**LG M237-WD
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HAF922/**Antec 1040IIB
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3x200mm, 1x140 and 1x120mm/**5x80mm fans
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Logitech Media USB/**Saitek Eclipse
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Cordless Trackman Wheel/**Ditto
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3.3Mbps
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SB 560 5.1 w/ Sennheiser RS140/**Creative T20 speakers, Dvico FusionHDTV7 Gold RT, Cisco E3000, HP 5510V AIO, Linksys E3000, Belkin F5U237 hub and **F5D8055 adapter
(** = 2nd rig)
can't wait to try it out hopefully there will be not as any bugs and all programs that run on wind 7 will run on wind 8
 

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acer aspire x3950
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windows 7 home prem 64 bit
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i3 530
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4 gig ddr 3
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onboard i only play game using onlive cloud gaming
Sound Card
onboard
Monitor(s) Displays
i-inc 19 wide screen
Hard Drives
640 gig
PSU
250
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small form
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fan
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logitech
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motor mouse
Internet Speed
50 meg
Other Info
Firefox nightly 64bit
That is a one sided question, I'm sure they can both accomplish the same things.
But how fast they do them, added features, etc.

If anyone doesn't think Windows 8 is for them, for any reason, then Windows 7 is an excellent OS.

Windows 8 Will Be a Winner: 10 Reasons Why

From post #13
• Improved multi-monitor support
• Native USB 3.0 stack
• Reduced boot time
• Significantly lower memory footprint
• Storage Spaces (virtualized storage pools)
• New files system (ReFS)
• Improved SSD support and performance
• Built-in antivirus and spyware protection
• Improved automatic updating system (less frequent reboot required updates)
• Built in support for creating system images and full system restore
• Built-in ISO mounting
• Built-in VHD mounting
• Built-in PDF support
• Automatic cloud based backup of system settings, Personal files, and Metro applications
• New interface for Shadow Copy
• Windows Store sells desktop software
• Drastically improved task manager
• Drastically improved file management allowing you to pause file copying jobs and finish them later
• Windows 8 has basically become rootkit proof when combined with UEFI
• Hyper-V

Various reviews of the beta candidate builds confirm noticeably improved performance over Windows 7 SP1.


Hi there
Don't disagree with the logic -- think W8 WILL be great but your Maths is WAY WAY off

You say in the post 10 reasons etc but you list AT LEAST 19 here !!!!! -- Or is my English beginning to get bad after seeing Manchester Utd making really heavy weather ahainst Ajax tonight in a Brussels Bar where everybody is drinking themselves silly !!! Brits and Dutch alike plus some interested 3rd parties.

Ist time I've tried posting using a Smart Phone !!.

Cheers
jimbo
 

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My Computer

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PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
76~2.0
OS
Windows 7 Ult x64 - SP1/ Windows 8 Pro x64
CPU
Intel Core i5-3570K 4.6GHz
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-Z77X UD3H, f18
Memory
8GB (2X4GB) DDR3 1600 Corsair Vengeance CL8 1.5v
Graphics Card(s)
Sapphire HD 7770 Vapor-X OC 1GB DDR5
Sound Card
Onboard VIA VT2021
Monitor(s) Displays
22" LCD Dell
Screen Resolution
1680x1050
Hard Drives
Samsung 840Pro 128GB SSD,
Seagate Barracuda 500GB SATA2 7200rpm 32MB cache, Seagate Barracuda 1TB SATA2 7200rpm 32MB cache,
PSU
Corsair HX650W
Case
Cooler Master Storm Scout
Cooling
Corsair H80 2x12cm Noctua NF P12 , 2x14cm case fans
Keyboard
Logitech Wave
Mouse
CM Sentinel
Internet Speed
Dismal
Antivirus
Avast
Browser
Opera Next
Other Info
Haswell laptop: HP Envy 17t-j, i7-4700MQ, GeForce 740M 2GB DDR3, 17.3" Full HD 1920x1080, 16GB RAM, Samsung 840 Pro 128GB, 1TB Hitachi 7200 HDD,
Desktop: eSATA ports,
External eSATA Seagate 500GB SATA2 7200rpm,
External WD USB 500GB
That is a one sided question, I'm sure they can both accomplish the same things.
But how fast they do them, added features, etc.

If anyone doesn't think Windows 8 is for them, for any reason, then Windows 7 is an excellent OS.

Windows 8 Will Be a Winner: 10 Reasons Why

From post #13
• Improved multi-monitor support
• Native USB 3.0 stack
• Reduced boot time
• Significantly lower memory footprint
• Storage Spaces (virtualized storage pools)
• New files system (ReFS)
• Improved SSD support and performance
• Built-in antivirus and spyware protection
• Improved automatic updating system (less frequent reboot required updates)
• Built in support for creating system images and full system restore
• Built-in ISO mounting
• Built-in VHD mounting
• Built-in PDF support
• Automatic cloud based backup of system settings, Personal files, and Metro applications
• New interface for Shadow Copy
• Windows Store sells desktop software
• Drastically improved task manager
• Drastically improved file management allowing you to pause file copying jobs and finish them later
• Windows 8 has basically become rootkit proof when combined with UEFI
• Hyper-V

Various reviews of the beta candidate builds confirm noticeably improved performance over Windows 7 SP1.

Am I alone thinking that Windows Store selling software is not at all a feature of an OS? Personally I will remove/disable this immediately after getting W8.

UEFI has nothing to do with the OS either - and my current hardware does not support it. Mind you, I'm not planning a hardware upgrade in the foreseeable future.

I don't care for the Cloud features and boot time - my current system boots faster than it takes me to make a sandwich ;).

Now, the thing that I would welcome in a new OS is an improvement of the basic OS functions, namely file copying speeds. Currently to copy a file between two folders takes too long, it's simply too slow compared to the theoretic hardware capabilities. Ext file system (the one used on UNIX machines) is way faster than NTFS. Is the new file system for W8 faster than NTFS? If so, I will certainly upgrade. If not, I just don't see a point (beyond simple curiosity and pure love for new shiny gadgets :geek:).

And unfortunately I too have read somewhere that the new file system will not make it to the consumer desktop edition of W8. Is that so? Which file system is used in the developers preview (I skipped that one)?
 

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Q6600
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8 GB
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ATI Radeon HD 2600 XT
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Samsung Syncmaster P2450
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
Samsung HD103UJ
Samsung HD501LJ
Internet Speed
25 Mb/s
I'd imagine the file copying speeds are mostly governed by the hardware's physical capabilities.

What I can't imagine, though, is anything too drastic that would need much improving in Win7... I do welcome any true improvements the company can think of, but I'm fearful that trying to make a desktop OS uniformly geared for touch is going to annoy the heck out of my little mouse and I.
 

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Windows 7 Pro x64 SP1
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AMD Phenom II x6 1090T Black Edition 3.2GHz
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ASUS M4A88TD-V EVO/USB3
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Patriot G ‘Sector 5’ Edition 8GB (2 x 4GB) 1600MHz
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(onboard) Realtek® ALC 892 8-Channel High Definition Audio
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ViewSonic VX2253 22"
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1920x1080
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Transcend SSD720 2.5" SATAIII 64GB SSD; Western Digital Caviar Green WD20EARS 2TB 64MB 3.5" HDD
LG WH10LS30 10X Blu-ray Burner with LightScribe
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CORSAIR TX Series 950W ATX12V 80 Plus Bronze
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Cooler Master HAF X NVidia Edition; 5 Green LED Fans!
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CORSAIR A70 120mm Dual-Fan
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Verbatim 97472 Mini Wireless Slim
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bundled Verbatim 97472 Wireless
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Avast
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Chrome
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circa Oct 2006,
Dell XPS M1210,
Windows 7 Professional 32-bit,
Intel Core 2 Duo T7200 2.0GHz,
3.25 (4) GB of RAM,
NVidia GeForce Go 7400,
500GB Seagate Momentus 7200RPM HDD
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