Haswell may not be a big deal as first thought

[BigTabs]

Might Get the Ivy Bridge-E

 

[Solarstarshines]

Might Get the Ivy Bridge-E

That's where im heading in a while Ivy Bridge but that de-lidding situation still has me thinking

 

[kbrady1979]

Delidding was only for people early on that got IB CPUs that half-ass defective from the get go. The newer IB chips are suppose to be really nice. You don't have to delid anything

 

[BigTabs]

IB-E looks and sounds better

 

[kbrady1979]

IB-E comes at a much higher price tag as well.

 

[BigTabs]

If its a great overclocker and cooler im willing to pay

 

[Lady Fitzgerald]

The Ivy Bridge-e is rumored to have the heat spreader soldered to the chip, same as the Sandy Bridges and Sandy Bridge-es (and earlier), unlike the non-enthusiast Ivy Bridges. I don't know if there will be any new boards coming out when IB-e is released, though. I went with the Sandy Bridge-e back in March because I needed (and wanted) a new machine then, not later this year (it's never wise to buy into new technology before there has been enough time to work out the inevitable bugs), and the X79 platform has more PCI-e lanes available.

 

[Solarstarshines]

If its a great overclocker and cooler im willing to pay

Big tabs i'm sure it will be a lot better going to Ivy Overclocking shouldn't matter to much at that point I mean 4.5 to 4.6 is a great Oc and for Intel doubt you need to crank it up to 4.8 Ghz

Even though we maintain high Oc's were still getting beat out by performance

if i can find that sabertooth board and the cpu for a good price i'll just chuck the ram I already have in there so hopefully I can get away for about 450.00 total upgrade

 

[BigTabs]

I'm going to wait and see what people say when its out

 

[kbrady1979]

IB-E won't even have a cooler with it. The cheapest CPU will be the 4 core 8 thread model at about $320, and there is next to no reason to buy it because it doesn't outperform the 3770K and the motherboards are more expensive. The best CPU for the money will be the mid-range CPU which will run about $540 and will be 6 cores and 12 threads. Most people going with the -Extreme line go with this processor. The high end CPU will be around $1000 and will perform marginally better than the ~$500 CPU.

Here is what is leaked so far, and this is probably accurate as they are coming out next month.



Also, with almost double the TDP, IB-E will require a much better cooler when you start overclocking. A single radiator system just won't cut it.

 

[BigTabs]

True

 

[Solarstarshines]

500.00 is a little Pricey for my blood for a CPU

 

[BigTabs]

Its a shame about the haswell looked promising

 

[BigTabs]

I was just on a forum people have hit good overclocks Haswell Overclocking Thread

 

[BigTabs]

I was just on a forum people have hit good overclocks Haswell Overclocking Thread

I take that back some people have good overclocks some are overclocked and hitting 90c+

 

[kbrady1979]

Yes, SOME Haswell CPU's can hit 4.6GHz+, but it is fairly uncommon in the early batches of chips. Most of the chips will fall into the 4.0-4.5GHz range. It's like a lottery, the more you play, the better your chances of hitting it big. With Ivy Bridge, most of the chips would hit 4.5GHz no problem, and some would hit 5.....the chances of getting a better than average chip was higher with Ivy Bridge than Haswell.

 

[BigTabs]

Heat is the only problem if im right so if you have good water cooling maybe you would get away with overclocking

I had a chat with someone about overclocking haswell if you have a great water cooling setup maybe

some people have said even stock speeds on an intel cooler its hot

 

[kbrady1979]

The cooler can only do so much. The chips have barriers and no matter what setup you have, once you hit it, you've reached the limit. Special circumstances would be LN2 and other exotic solutions.

 

[whs]

I think if you want a CPU in this league, the i7 3770K is still a good and proven bet. I read too many negative comments about the Haswell (including special PSU requirements) that I would not touch it.

 

[TVeblen]

The thing I'm holding my breath about is that when I built my current rig I was reading that Ivy Bridge-E was going to come out on Socket 2011. Figured it was a good upgrade path, since I wasn't going to wait. But that was only speculation at the time.
Anyone heard what platform it will actually be on?