Solved A good mouse is hard to catch.

[Layback Bear]

I'm using 2 Microsoft Wireless 5000 mouse and one has a button going a little crazy.

On you two system I like to have matching keyboards and mice.

So I went looking just to buy another M/S 5000. I found out I could buy the combination mouse and keyboard for less than just buying the M/S 5000 by itself.

Not good. I already have to matching M/S keyboards I have replace with Das 4 Pro keyboards. I don't need 3 matching keyboards I don't use.

So I went mouse hunting. What a job. Their has got to be a hundred thousand different ones.
It must be wireless and I don't want one with 36 buttons for gaming and mowing your lawn.

Now we are down to about ten thousand to choose from.
Lots of Logitech which I had bad luck many years ago. That is the reason I use M/S.

Well I found that if you want a mouse for every day use with only the few extra button like I want the choice is Logitech.

I bit my lip and ordered two of these from my local Intel dealer. Should be at my house tomorrow.

Logitech Marathon Mouse M705 review - Engadget

All reviews said they were great. I mean all.
If their is any tricks I should know about a Logitech mouse drivers and programs I should know?

My inventory of extra mouse and keyboards is big enough.
I really want Logitech to work this time.

 

[Layback Bear]

I like this video. Shows years of use and abuse and it still keep on working.

 

[whs]

I have 3 of these Logiteck meeses and they work great. I prefer the trackball kind because then I don't get carpal tunnel syndrome and they work on my towel that I have underneath. There are only 2 extra small buttons for forward and backward.

 

[Boozad]

Any specific reason for it having to be wireless Jack? I've never had anything but trouble with wireless mice myself so steer well clear.

 

[Layback Bear]

Wireless is because one computer are on the other end of the room and really don't want to run any more USB 20 ft cables around the wall to get to the tower.

I really haven't had any problems with MS wireless mouse or wireless keyboards.
I'm hoping I have the same luck with the Logitech mice.

One tower is close enough but I want both mice to be exactly the same. Just like both my keyboards are the same.
When I shift from using one system to the other my 3 brain cells don't have to make any adjustments.

 

[Ranger4]

I have 3 of these Logiteck meeses and they work great. I prefer the trackball kind because then I don't get carpal tunnel syndrome and they work on my towel that I have underneath. There are only 2 extra small buttons for forward and backward.

I also use the Logitech M570 Trackball wireless mouse & it is a replacement for an old Logitech Trackball & that was a replacement for the first Logitech Trackball that I owned going back to Windows 95 & Logitech mice have served me well.

Layback Bear, if you decide on the Logitech M570 mouse be sure to follow their download instructions in the literature that comes with it & then make sure you select the 64 bit version if you are using that. Install the software & then set up the mouse to suit yourself.

 

[WizardOfBoz]

I did a review here of the Logitech Performance MX Wireless mouse. I bought one, because it was supposed to be good for people with big hands (which I have - even XL gloves don't fit me real well).

There are some things the MX has in common with the M705. I very much like the Logitech "unifying receiver" concept: all their wireless mice and keyboards use the same USB receiver. You can buy replacements! Very nice.

I found the S/W hard to install (had to install it batch, using a cmd window using admin priveleges). And the mouse paired without having to go through the S/W process, which was a bit confusing. Once figured out, it worked fine.

As for specifics, I don't have an M705. I think that the Performance MX has a few more bells and whistles, and that, to me, is an advantage for your M705. On the MX, there is a zoom button just above your thumb, and this intrudes into the space where my thumb should comfortably fit in the groove of the mouse. Instead, the zoom button completely screws up the ergonomics of the MX. In fact, I may try to find an M705, and will sell the MX.

Soooo.... Let me know what you think if you get the M705!

 

[WizardOfBoz]

One other thing I think I like about the M705 is that it uses batteries and seems to conserve energy so you don't have to recharge the mouse every couple days (with the MX, you do, but it has the micro-B USB socket that you attach the power to.

Strongly prefer the M705 style: no batteries or charging needed for months.

I use Panasonic Eneloop (2100mAh, exceptional number of charge/use cycles) batteries, BTW. Very nice.

 

[Layback Bear]

Thank you all for your inputs. I will keep you posted.

 

[ThrashZone]

Every since Microsoft came out with the Mouse and keyboard center Microsoft mice.. aren't worth spit
I've chunked my Microsoft mice in the garbage
On my laptop I use a x-p Gateway mouse and on my desktop I have my new red dragon and it's pretty cool

 

[Layback Bear]

I got one mouse installed to work in the default settings. I did a Windows 7 update and install the Windows 7 update for the Logitech mouse.

I'm unable to get the Logitech Set Point 64bit .exe to do any thing after waiting about 5min it will not open so I can install it.

What the hell I'm I doing wrong??

 

[Ranger4]

Hi Layback Bear. Did you buy the Logitech M570 mouse?. I tried the download a little while ago & it worked OK. Perhaps you could try another download. The Logitech download site I used is.

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Then click the little arrow shown in the Smart Installer slot & select the 64 bit version. The download is about 78 mb so it's quite large.

The Logitech software installation file is shown in my Downloads folder as.

SetPoint6.65.62_64

 

[WizardOfBoz]

LB, If the problem is running the install (and not downloading it), this may help:

I had the same problem. Somewhere on the web, I found some instructions. I can't remember if I did this with the "smart" or the 64 bit version, but I guess you could try one or t'other. So, kill all other applications. Stop MS mouse and kb center, if it's running. Make sure no vestigial processes from Logitech are running. Then open a cmd window as admin, cd over to your download folder, and run the install process (I want to say I used the smart version after all, but...? If it doesn't work, try the 64 bit version). Not only does SP install, but also the unifying software.

But once SP installs, that sets up another somewhere during the install, you are instructed to turn the mouse power off and on. This is to pair the dongle and the mouse. In my case, they were already paired. In this situation, you have an option to do "advanced options". Try that. It should list your mouse already hooked up. You can unpair that mouse, and should do so. Then, get out of advanced, and proceed. Now, when you are instructed to turn the mouse off and on, the software pairs things, senses success, and declares you a winner.

After the trauma of an install process written by folks with less attention to detail than they should have, I had no problems.

Hope this helps. Good luck.

It's cocktail hour. I'm off to have a Manhattan.

 

[Layback Bear]

Just got both mice install.
They both work.

I did notice their buttons are more touchy that the M/S mice.
Very smooth to use and precise.
Installing Set Point on the second computer went like a breeze
Downloaded and install the Windows Update for the mouse and it also went well.

Going to take a little getting use to because they are very touchy.
Shouldn't take long.
They are just the right size.

So far I chose the proper mice.

 

[WizardOfBoz]

Layback Bear,
Are you really a big ol bear? That is, do you have big paws? I do, and wonder if your experience predicts what I would find. I'm wondering if its worth it to test an M705 out.
Thanks,
Wiz

PS Did the SP software finally install like it should, or did you have to resort to the cmd/admin ruse?

 

[Layback Bear]

The older PC I (Home Premium/64) had to unlock the program and use Windows 7 troubleshooter to fix the problem.

On the newer computer (in my specs) just downloaded and installed with no problems.

I'm a small person and the mouse is the proper size so it doesn't put strange angles on my wrist to cause pain.
These mice are very comfortable to use.

 

[WizardOfBoz]

Thanks. I may give it a try anyway. The Performance MX, ideal in size, has a design spoiled by too many gratuitous feature, including the stupid zoom button that intrudes where my thumb should be. Glad you got this worked out.

BTW, I understand there can be issues in moving back to MS mice. Something about the MS software sensing vestigial Logitech software and not installing. Sigh. I wish companiies would play nice so that their customers benefited.

 

[spencer1]

Logitech does mice right. I use the heck out of my wireless M315 that was purchased 3 years ago, for $9. It still works perfectly. The exterior plastic is a bit worn, but looks pretty good. I only get 6 months use out of one AA alkaline battery. No biggie because I buy 4-packs from Dollar Tree. The little circular "feet" came off the bottom last year, so I replaced them with cellophane tape (the shiny type), and now my mouse slides like butter.

Well, that's my mouse tale. My name is Spencer1, and I am a Logitechoholic.

 

[WizardOfBoz]

Spencer1,

Well, I do really like the unifying concept, and I'm getting used to the logitech "feel" (after six years or so with an MS kb/mouse combo).

I do think that the feel of the mouse in one's hand varies by person. If the performance MX mouse did not have the "zoom" button protruding into the space my thumb would comfortably go, it would be great for me. Because it does (and because I have no use whatsoever for a zoom function), I'm going to continue to search.

One other great feature about some of the Logitech mice is that you can buy replacement feet. Not so for the 315, but you can buy the whole mouse (without a receiver) from ebay for five bucks! And they are "unifying" receivers. I have used an M305 as my "travel mouse" for many years, and I agree - it's worked great. It is rather small for my hand, though.

 

[spencer1]

Hi WizardOfBoz. Yes the unifying receiver is nice! That Scotch tape trick has worked amazingly well for me. Just make sure to use the glossy type. It's durable and slick. At first, the M315 felt a bit too small in my hand, but I'm so used to it now, that I prefer it over full-sized mice.