Most Windows 7 PCs max out memory.

JMH

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Most Windows 7 PCs max out their memory, resulting in performance bottlenecks, a researcher said today.

Citing data from Devil Mountain Software's community-based Exo.performance.network (XPnet), Craig Barth, the company's chief technology officer, said that new metrics reveal an unsettling trend. On average, 86% of Windows 7 machines in the XPnet pool are regularly consuming 90%-95% of their available RAM, resulting in slow-downs as the systems were forced to increasingly turn to disk-based virtual memory to handle tasks.

The 86% mark for Windows 7 is more than twice the average number of Windows XP machines that run at the memory "saturation" point, said Barth. The most recent snapshot of XPnet's 23,000-plus PCs -- taken yesterday -- pegs only 40% of XP systems as running low on memory.
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Most Windows 7 PCs max out memory
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
LAPTOP. HP Pavilion dv7-4010TX .
OS
Win 7 Ultimate 64-bit. SP1.
CPU
Intel i7 -720QM.[1.6GHz Turbo Boost 2.8GHz. 6MB Cache.]
Memory
8 DDR 3 RAM. 1066MHZ
Graphics Card(s)
ATI 1024 MB. DDR3. Radeon HD5650
Monitor(s) Displays
17.3" High Definition Brightview LCD. LED Backlit.
Screen Resolution
1600 x 900.
Hard Drives
640GB
Case
Laptop / notebook.
Mouse
Logitech Anywhere mouse. MX.
Internet Speed
ADSL [ but too slow ]
Jan


Nice Article and interesting stats, thanks
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP Pavillion dv-7 1005 Tx
OS
Win 8 Release candidate 8400
CPU
[email protected]
Memory
4 gigs
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia 9600M
Sound Card
HD built-in
Monitor(s) Displays
17" Wxga
Screen Resolution
1440x900
Cooling
none
Internet Speed
45Mb down 5Mb up
That is something I do not understand. When I walk thru the computer stores, most Win7 systems have 4GBs and more - and they all have 64bit. No way to find a 32bit system which we were looking for because a friend needed that to run a bundle of very expensive programs for her business from 32bit Vista. My win7 systems usually run around 1GB of RAM usage. So where is the problem.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops
OS
Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
CPU
from 1.6GHz Duo to i7
Monitor(s) Displays
2x HP w2207
Hard Drives
5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals
Keyboard
with trackball - no mices
Mouse
Trackball mice
Internet Speed
DSL 6000
Hmmm...

My internet PC has 2 GB of Ram. Idles between 23-25%. Programs running ~ 30%. Anti-virus scan ~ 40%...

Wonder what software those people are running to get it to run out of memory...
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom builds... I build my own.
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x86 & x64
CPU
Core i7-860, AMD Phenom II X4 955, AMD Athlon II X2 250
Motherboard
ASUS
Memory
Kingston HyperX
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GeForce 9800 GTX, SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 5870
Sound Card
HT | OMEGA
Monitor(s) Displays
LCD
Hard Drives
Western Digital
PSU
OCZ Technology
Case
COOLER MASTER Storm Sniper, Storm Scout, Antec Skeleton
Internet Speed
DSL
I find it a bit amusing that the average machine running xp now has over 1.7 GB of memory, as according to this article, windows xp started with a minimum requirement of 64 MB.

With 8 GB of memory, and even without running a pagefile, there is still an average of about 3.5 to 4 GB available on my laptop.
 
Hardly anybody ever ran XP with 64MB of RAM. While it was the minimum...I don't think it was normal. I didn't know many who had less than 256MB.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Self-Built in July 2009
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64
CPU
Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R rev. 1.1, F12 BIOS
Memory
8GB G.Skill PI DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 timings
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA 1280MB Nvidia GeForce GTX570
Sound Card
Realtek ALC899A 8 channel onboard audio
Monitor(s) Displays
23" Acer x233H
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
Intel X25-M 80GB Gen 2 SSD
Western Digital 1TB Caviar Black, 32MB cache. WD1001FALS
PSU
Corsair 620HX modular
Case
Antec P182
Cooling
stock
Keyboard
ABS M1 Mechanical
Mouse
Logitech G9 Laser Mouse
Internet Speed
15/2 cable modem
Other Info
Windows and Linux enthusiast. Logitech G35 Headset.
Is there a memory leak somewhere in windows undiscovered as of yet?
 

My Computer

OS
win7 ultimate x64
CPU
Intel Core2 Duo E8400 @ 3.0
Motherboard
NVIDIA nForce 680i SLI
Memory
4gb corsair 6400 ddr2
Graphics Card(s)
Palit GTX260 Sonic 216 SP
Sound Card
sb audigy 24bit
Monitor(s) Displays
i-inc 19" lcd
Screen Resolution
1440x900
Hard Drives
seagate barracuda 7200 250 gb
PSU
ULTRA LSP Pro 750
Case
ultra midtower
Cooling
air
The XP numbers probably got pumped up by all those double booters on a Vista system.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops
OS
Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
CPU
from 1.6GHz Duo to i7
Monitor(s) Displays
2x HP w2207
Hard Drives
5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals
Keyboard
with trackball - no mices
Mouse
Trackball mice
Internet Speed
DSL 6000
i've not noticed heavy ram usage in Windows 7. Before my SSD when I ran with prefetch enabled, it would cache a ton of stuff and my ram was utilized...but my page file wasn't getting hit. Since moving to my SSD, with prefetch disabled...i don't usually go over 30% of my RAM...except when I run virtual machines and then I fully expect it.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Self-Built in July 2009
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64
CPU
Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R rev. 1.1, F12 BIOS
Memory
8GB G.Skill PI DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 timings
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA 1280MB Nvidia GeForce GTX570
Sound Card
Realtek ALC899A 8 channel onboard audio
Monitor(s) Displays
23" Acer x233H
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
Intel X25-M 80GB Gen 2 SSD
Western Digital 1TB Caviar Black, 32MB cache. WD1001FALS
PSU
Corsair 620HX modular
Case
Antec P182
Cooling
stock
Keyboard
ABS M1 Mechanical
Mouse
Logitech G9 Laser Mouse
Internet Speed
15/2 cable modem
Other Info
Windows and Linux enthusiast. Logitech G35 Headset.
My physical mem is running roughly 36% with a 1% cpu right now resource monitor/network/tcp connections firefox has got it going on.
 

My Computer

OS
win7 ultimate x64
CPU
Intel Core2 Duo E8400 @ 3.0
Motherboard
NVIDIA nForce 680i SLI
Memory
4gb corsair 6400 ddr2
Graphics Card(s)
Palit GTX260 Sonic 216 SP
Sound Card
sb audigy 24bit
Monitor(s) Displays
i-inc 19" lcd
Screen Resolution
1440x900
Hard Drives
seagate barracuda 7200 250 gb
PSU
ULTRA LSP Pro 750
Case
ultra midtower
Cooling
air
I suppose if the article was published, it must be happening to somebody. I think tomorrow I'll try a little experiment if I'm not too busy. I'll check memory usage 15 minutes after startup with 2, 4, 6, then 8 GB of memory on the system in my specs using default settings. It may be that the article is referring to factory configured systems with minimum required memory
 
I don't think I have ever gone over 50% RAM usage with my 4GB. I have done things to max the CPU, but never broke 50% on the RAM, I don't think....if so, only for a matter of moments.

Very interesting!:geek:
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd.
OS
Win 7 Ultimate 64-bit SP1 (desktop)
CPU
Intel Core 2 Duo E8400
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-EP35-DS3R
Memory
2x 2GB OCZ DDR II SDRAM PC2-6400
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce 9400GT
Monitor(s) Displays
HP 2009m(primary), Acer P191W
Screen Resolution
1600x900, 1440x900
Hard Drives
Internal:WD Caviar Black 640GB 32MB cache 7200RPM
External:Samsung Story Station 1TB HDD desktop drive
500GB Toshiba portable drive
PSU
Antec Earthwatts EA500D
Case
Antec Sonata III
Cooling
4 fans
Keyboard
Logitech Wave
Mouse
Logitech M-SBF90
Internet Speed
Slow due to home Wireless-G router
Antivirus
MSE, Hitman Pro, Malwarebytes
Browser
Chrome and Palemoon
Other Info
Laptop....Acer 5750Z-4835
15.6" HD Widescreen CineCrystal™ LED-backlit LCD Display: (1366x768 resolution, 16:9 aspect ratio)
Intel® Pentium® Processor B940 (2.0GHz, 2MB L3 cache)
Windows® 7 Home Premium,500GB Hard Drive,4GB DDR3 RAM, Intel® HD Graphics,8X DVD-Super Multi Double-Layer Drive
Multi-in-1 Digital Media Card Reader,802.11b/g/n Wi-Fi
Chrome and Palemoon, MSE, Hitman Pro
Not sitting in front of mine right now, but I do remember thinking it was rather high when I first installed (3 weeks ago)

It had I think 1.7gb used of my 4gb, directly after bootup. No other apps running (well...AVG sitting idle..)
 

My Computer

OS
7
CPU
i5 750
Motherboard
GA-P55-UD3
Memory
4gb
PSU
Antec True Power 650
Case
Antec 902
I would rather have more of the memory utilized, as it would mean fewer read/writes on the HDD, making my laptop less likely to freeze when it's bumped or moved.
 
What a crock. This paragraph here pretty much sums up just how much,

Barth acknowledged that XPnet's data couldn't determine whether the memory usage was by the operating system itself, or an increased number of applications, but said that Devil Mountain would start working on finding which is the dominant factor in increased memory use.

Sounds like their "software" can't determine the difference between something that is actively using ram and something that is cached.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Me
OS
Win 7 Ultimate x64
CPU
FX-8350 @ 4.6 GHz so far
Motherboard
Asus M5A97 EVO
Memory
ADATA XPG V1 Series Black 8GB DDR3 1600
Graphics Card(s)
Sapphire R9 270x Dual-X
Sound Card
Xonar DGX w/ Corsair Vengence 1300
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer S232HL Abid
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
120 GB OCZ Vertex 3
500 GB Seagate 7200.12
PSU
Antec Earthwatts 650W Green
Case
Antec Three Hundred
Cooling
Cooler Master 212 EVO
Keyboard
Logitech G510
Mouse
Logitech G500s
Internet Speed
35000/3000
Sounds like their "software" can't determine the difference between something that is actively using ram and something that is cached.

thats exactly what Im thinking too, More likely, their software has a memory leak...

The cached ram doesnt cause bottlenecks, when an Application requests memory, Windows gives it the address used by a cached address and the application simply over-writes whatever was located at that cached address. it doesn't do any deallocation or realloction or paging for that address and whatever was stored there.

memUse.JPG
 
"I think this is something that everyone in their gut knew, but now we have data," said Barth. "The metrics don't lie."

Users who want to compare their computers to the current WCPI numbers can do so by registering with XPnet and then installing the DMS Clarity Tracker Agent from Devil Mountain's site.
Metrics don't lie, but people do. Somehow the name of this organization just doesn't inspire me to believe them. If this were true, I would expect to see warnings from the OS about low memory, and I have not seen one, even on the rig that I only have 2GBs running x64 on.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
DIY
OS
W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE
CPU
Phenom II 1090T w/Noctua NH-D14 /**4400+ X2 w/CM Hyper TX 3
Motherboard
ASRock 890FX Deluxe 4/**A8N-SLI
Memory
2 x 2GB Patriot PGS34g1600LLKA/**4x1GB Corsair VS
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GTX460 SC/**EVGA 8800GTS
Sound Card
Asus Xonar D2X/**Xonar D1
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer X233H, Dell E152FPc /**LG M237-WD
Screen Resolution
1920x1080 & 1024x768/**1980x1080
Hard Drives
WDC 2TB, 1.5TB, 1TB, 500GB,Seagate 500GB , Maxtor 80GB /**500GB Seagate & WDC 1TB Black
PSU
CM RS600 w/ APC BX1000G/**Antec 500 TP w/ APC BX1000
Case
HAF922/**Antec 1040IIB
Cooling
3x200mm, 1x140 and 1x120mm/**5x80mm fans
Keyboard
Logitech Media USB/**Saitek Eclipse
Mouse
Cordless Trackman Wheel/**Ditto
Internet Speed
3.3Mbps
Other Info
SB 560 5.1 w/ Sennheiser RS140/**Creative T20 speakers, Dvico FusionHDTV7 Gold RT, Cisco E3000, HP 5510V AIO, Linksys E3000, Belkin F5U237 hub and **F5D8055 adapter
(** = 2nd rig)
Yeah, in my system, i have 6gb and never see windows go over 2gb, i think i average out about 1.8 mb used, even in games i never even hit the maximum.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
The HAFmeister (Custom)
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64 RTM + SP1
CPU
Intel Core i7 950 3.06GHZ (OC'd to 3.99Ghz)
Motherboard
Asus Rampage III Extreme x58 SATA 6GB & USB 3.0
Memory
6GB OCZ Reaper HPC Edition PC3-16000 (set 1606Mhz 8-8-8-26)
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA Nvidia Geforce GTX 570
Sound Card
Creative SB X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Professional Series
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung SM2433BW 24" Widescreen Monitor
Screen Resolution
1920x1200
Hard Drives
Western Digital Caviar Black 500GB 32Mb Buffer SATA II
Western Digital Caviar Black 750GB 32Mb Buffer SATA II
Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 16Mb Buffer SATA II
Western Digital My Book Essential Edition 750GB USB
Samsung Spinpoint 2TB SATA II
PSU
Thermaltake Toughpower 1200w (Modular)
Case
CoolerMaster HAF-932
Cooling
Zalman Reserator XT and ZM-WB5 Plus - GPU uses Stock coolers
Keyboard
Logitech G510
Mouse
Logitech G9 Gaming Mouse
Internet Speed
3MB Profile - 350-400kbs (Real-Speed)
Other Info
IcyBox Hot-Swap Bay,
Logitech G27 Steering Wheel,
Xbox 360 Wirless Elite Controller with Microsoft Reciever and
Play & Charge Kit,
Belkin USB Wireless Adaptor,
GAME Generic Controller (Playstation Looky-Likey),
Epson SX125 All-in-One.
I do despair at times over the memory myths that are spread about

I bought my memory, (all 2GB of it LOL), to be used, not to sit idle, just in-case something may need it a week next Thursday :sarc:

The memory management in win7 works and it works well, using the default cache settings. If the cache settings were actually set to use more available unused RAM it would not cause me any issues. Un-used RAM is wasted RAM.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
    ChillBlast - Custom to my design
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro x64 [Latest Release and Release Preview]
    CPU
    Ryzen 9 5950X, 3.8 - 5.2 MHz
    Motherboard
    Asus Prime X570-Pro
    Memory
    64GB [2 x 32GB] DDR4 3200MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    4GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1650 Ti
    Sound Card
    On-board SPDIF to 5.1 System + HDMI [5.1 system]
    Monitor(s) Displays
    32" UHD 32 Bit HDR Monitor + 43" UHD 4K 32Bit HDR TV
    Screen Resolution
    2 x 3840 x 2160 @60Hz
    Hard Drives
    1TB M2 SSD OS, 500GB Fast Access SSD, 2 x 8TB Data + Various Externals from 1TB to 4TB, 10TB NAS
    PSU
    NZXT C750 80 PLUS Gold 750W Modular PSU
    Case
    Workstation Case [Matt Black]
    Cooling
    NZXT Kraken X63 280mm CPU Cooler +2x Quiet Case fans
    Keyboard
    Logitech Wireless MX Keys & K400 + others
    Mouse
    Logitech Wireless MX Master 3S
    Internet Speed
    920 MB Down 50 MB Up
    Antivirus
    BitDefender Total Security Pro
    Browser
    Chrome (always run latest Non-Beta)
    Other Info
    Also run ...
    Laptop - Quad 8GB - Windows 10 Pro x64
    Nexus 7 Android tablet x2
    Samsung 10.2" tablet
    Blackview TAB 8 4G Android Tablet c/w Keyboard
    Wacom Intuos Pro Medium Pen Pad
    Wacom Intuos Pro Small Pen Pad
    Wacom Expresskeys Remote
    Loopdeck+ Graphics Controller
    Shuttle Pro v2 Control
  • Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Dell XPS 17 10750H
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro x64 Latest RP
    CPU
    Intel I7 10750H 5.0GHz
    Motherboard
    Dell XPS
    Memory
    32GB [2x16GB] DDR4 2933 MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    nVidia GTX1650Ti 4 GB GDDR6
    Sound Card
    Stock [Realtek] 4 Speaker
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17" IPS UHD+ Infinity Edge Touchscreen
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2400
    Hard Drives
    2TB M2 NVMe, 4TB External + various 500GB & 1TB External NVMe (also have access to spinner HDD from
    PSU
    Stock
    Case
    Stock XPS Aluminium & Carbon Fibre
    Cooling
    Stock - Active Fan Control
    Keyboard
    Backlit + Various Logitech
    Mouse
    Stock Track Pad + Logitech MX Trackball
    Internet Speed
    72 MB Down 18MB Up
    Browser
    Chrome
    Other Info
    Also run ...
    Laptop - Quad 8GB - Windows 10 Pro x64
    Nexus 7 Android tablet x2
    10.2" tablet
    Sony Z3 Android Smartphone
    Wacom Intuos Pro Medium Pen Pad
    Wacom Intuos Pro Small Pen Pad
    Wacom Expresskeys Remote
    Loopdeck+ Graphics Controller
    Shuttle Pro v2 Control Pad
    10TB NAS
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