Does this make sense for document and system backups?

jorpe

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I have 2 desktops in my home office. Either using live sync or synctoy I could set up folders to back one up to the other or sync them. From there I could use Acronis for images, windows backup for images/backups and create a sync toy folder to sync my docs/pics/downloads etc to a drive on one of the desktops while having a readily accessible backup on the other computer.
 

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I have 2 desktops in my home office. Either using live sync or synctoy I could set up folders to back one up to the other or sync them. From there I could use Acronis for images, windows backup for images/backups and create a sync toy folder to sync my docs/pics/downloads etc to a drive on one of the desktops while having a readily accessible backup on the other computer.


Seems overly complex to me. Why not just use acronis to image both. By using multiple methods you have many points that can fail and take the entire process down with it


Ken
 

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I agree with Ken and have one piece of additional information

I make a copy when I first install the OS, and then put it away ( in your case you can do it now, if you are sure that there a no problems with the OS). Once a week or month. Another copy can be made with system image. You can even keep it on the same drive as the OS. Have a problem, you have a current image of your OS. Big problem, virus or hard drive failure, you can go back and use the image that you put away.

No more installs, or activations, you will be set

Good luck
 

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I agree with Ken and have one piece of additional information

I make a copy when I first install the OS, and then put it away ( in your case you can do it now, if you are sure that there a no problems with the OS). Once a week or month. Another copy can be made with system image. You can even keep it on the same drive as the OS. Have a problem, you have a current image of your OS. Big problem, virus or hard drive failure, you can go back and use the image that you put away.

No more installs, or activations, you will be set

Good luck

I noticed this advice a while ago, and it seems to work for a lot of people, so after this fresh install (the reason for my paranoia) I imaged the drive after installing OS + Office and all updates... even the 1070033 or whatever the number is.
 

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7600x64 ultimate, not SP1
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i7 930
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Gigabye X58A-ud5
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12gb ddr3 1600 triple channel Corsair XMS3
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Radeon 5850 1gb OC edition
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Asus Xonar Essence STX
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3x64GB Microcenter SSDs RAID0
1tb spinpoint f3 (system)
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1tb spinpoint f3 OSX
1x2TB WD green images
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3. c314 2gb ram tablet 7600 ultimate
4. athlon 6000+ home server (still in progress)
5. ipad for on the go
I have 2 desktops in my home office. Either using live sync or synctoy I could set up folders to back one up to the other or sync them. From there I could use Acronis for images, windows backup for images/backups and create a sync toy folder to sync my docs/pics/downloads etc to a drive on one of the desktops while having a readily accessible backup on the other computer.


Seems overly complex to me. Why not just use acronis to image both. By using multiple methods you have many points that can fail and take the entire process down with it


Ken
Hey Ken,

Thanks for the advice. I think I tried to explain it and made it overcomplicated. It's two tiered backup. One horizontal backup via synchronization between my main desktops, one vertical backup to an additional HD on my main system.

I'm fairly upset with acronis right now, I keep getting mbr bitmap errors trying to restore an image to a different HD. The consensus of the internet is that it's an error with the program.

Edit: I should have made it clear that syncing documents/pics/music/files/whatever/the kitchen sink is separate from doing windows backups and acronis images. I'm still debating on which to use more permanently between acronis and windows backup. The fact that synced files serves as a redundant backup between my systems is a bonus.
 

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7600x64 ultimate, not SP1
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i7 930
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Gigabye X58A-ud5
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12gb ddr3 1600 triple channel Corsair XMS3
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Radeon 5850 1gb OC edition
Sound Card
Asus Xonar Essence STX
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer 24'', Dell 23'' display port
Screen Resolution
1920x1200, 1920x1080
Hard Drives
3x64GB Microcenter SSDs RAID0
1tb spinpoint f3 (system)
1tb spinpoint f3 (media)
1tb spinpoint f3 OSX
1x2TB WD green images
1tb 7200.12 (time machine)
2x 500gb western digital green drives for archiving,keeping install files.
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700 modular
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Antec 1200
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Promlimatech Megahalems
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logitech 2.4ghz wireless wave something
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logitech laser wireless mouse.
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4 systems currently:
1. sig rig
2. 930 i7 x64 ultimate (backup, media center PC)
3. c314 2gb ram tablet 7600 ultimate
4. athlon 6000+ home server (still in progress)
5. ipad for on the go
I was making things way too complicated. I'm using synctoy to sync my data between my primary and backup computers straight across. Both computers have the same documents, downloads, etc...
 

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OS
7600x64 ultimate, not SP1
CPU
i7 930
Motherboard
Gigabye X58A-ud5
Memory
12gb ddr3 1600 triple channel Corsair XMS3
Graphics Card(s)
Radeon 5850 1gb OC edition
Sound Card
Asus Xonar Essence STX
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer 24'', Dell 23'' display port
Screen Resolution
1920x1200, 1920x1080
Hard Drives
3x64GB Microcenter SSDs RAID0
1tb spinpoint f3 (system)
1tb spinpoint f3 (media)
1tb spinpoint f3 OSX
1x2TB WD green images
1tb 7200.12 (time machine)
2x 500gb western digital green drives for archiving,keeping install files.
PSU
700 modular
Case
Antec 1200
Cooling
Promlimatech Megahalems
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logitech 2.4ghz wireless wave something
Mouse
logitech laser wireless mouse.
Internet Speed
50/10
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4 systems currently:
1. sig rig
2. 930 i7 x64 ultimate (backup, media center PC)
3. c314 2gb ram tablet 7600 ultimate
4. athlon 6000+ home server (still in progress)
5. ipad for on the go
I actually use multiple backup systems because it provides Multiple points of failure ;)

If one system fails then I still have a chance of recovery

The only thing I would change is the use of an external drive for backups rather than internal as this allows storage away from the actual systems or even off-site.
 

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I have 2 desktops in my home office. Either using live sync or synctoy I could set up folders to back one up to the other or sync them. From there I could use Acronis for images, windows backup for images/backups and create a sync toy folder to sync my docs/pics/downloads etc to a drive on one of the desktops while having a readily accessible backup on the other computer.


For document backup...I suggest instead using something like synctoy or robocopy to copy to 2 external USB hard drives that you keep off site. Because if your house is robbed, or burns to the ground...having extra copies on different computers may not protect you. Also, since these backups only get the changes...they occur very quickly. Often in seconds.

I don't like using tools like Acronis and the like to backup documents since they put everything inside of a container file. If anything bad happens to that container file, you most likely lost everything. If on the other hand, all of your files are just duplicated on a couple of USB drives....worst case scenario you lose 1 or 2 corrupted files...but not the whole enchilada.
 

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