Default Refresh "Out of Range". Can't see screen


  1. Posts : 730
    Windows XP Pro SP3, Windows 7 Pro 32-bit, Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit, Windows XP Home SP3
       #1

    Default Refresh "Out of Range". Can't see screen



    I've been here before and cannot remember if I had to go into the registry or what....
    I had a systemboard problem. saved my hard drive and memory, swapped out the system board for one that is similar but not exact, so I'm just now rebuilding things.
    Win7 Ultimate edition booted right up and had no trouble with chipset etc.
    Except, that right when it shifts into its managed graphics mode at the point it presents the various user account login widgets, the screen resolution/refresh is set, and I lose the display. The flat panel control IC is kind enough to give me "Out of Range 59HZ-65KHz".

    So I went in through Safe Mode and changed the preferred resolution, but of course that did not work.

    What do I need to do to get a "default" of something easy like 800x600 256 color 60Hz so I can start there and set something workable??
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  2. Posts : 466
    Windows 7 Ultimate x64 and Home Premium x64
       #2

    zapp22 said:

    I've been here before and cannot remember if I had to go into the registry or what....
    I had a systemboard problem. saved my hard drive and memory, swapped out the system board for one that is similar but not exact, so I'm just now rebuilding things.
    Win7 Ultimate edition booted right up and had no trouble with chipset etc.
    Except, that right when it shifts into its managed graphics mode at the point it presents the various user account login widgets, the screen resolution/refresh is set, and I lose the display. The flat panel control IC is kind enough to give me "Out of Range 59HZ-65KHz".

    So I went in through Safe Mode and changed the preferred resolution, but of course that did not work.

    What do I need to do to get a "default" of something easy like 800x600 256 color 60Hz so I can start there and set something workable??
    When lacking the ability to set the refresh, you should try and reboot the system into Safe Mode. You should be able to do that by as soon as the system starts up, tap the 'F8' key to get a boot menu. Try and do that BEFORE the 'Starting Windows' screen comes up. It should then prompt you for what you want to do.

    You should then be able to log in as the local administrator to your machine, be sure you know your Local Admin password.

    From there, you can at least set the video to a lower resolution with a proper refresh rate for you to use your computer. Restart the machine.

    From there, let it boot normally, and you should be able to see your system. Readjust your video to something more easier to read, but also use the 'Apply' button to have it do tests as you work your way up to the resolution and refresh rate you want, this will avoid certain 'surprises' like this again.

    Also, in the future, when you replace hardware or do some hardware changes of this nature, namely motherboard or graphics card, you might want to consider making a setup account. When you are about to make a change (And this also assumes you have a chance to), use the setup account and force the settings to lowest common denominator. This will help preserve your desktop if you have things set a certain way (Like I prefer my icons in a certain place) and you have an alternative account to use in case of certain malware issues.
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  3. Posts : 163
    Windows 7 Home Premium (64-bit) SP1 RTM
       #3

    Boot, hold F8, instead of Safe Mode, use VGA Low Res 640x480 mode. This puts you into Windows with all drivers loaded but in a Low resolution mode. Now you can change the resolution to your monitors native res.
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  4. Posts : 3,427
    Windows 10 Pro x64
       #4

    Rik55 said:
    Boot, hold F8, instead of Safe Mode, use VGA Low Res 640x480 mode. This puts you into Windows with all drivers loaded but in a Low resolution mode. Now you can change the resolution to your monitors native res.
    Good advice, its worth mentioning though, on some PC's (including mine) Safe Mode is not on F8, you may have to spam F5 to get a screen asking you what OS to boot, and THEN hit F8 to go to advanced options.
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  5. Posts : 730
    Windows XP Pro SP3, Windows 7 Pro 32-bit, Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit, Windows XP Home SP3
    Thread Starter
       #5

    yep, got it done.
    it occurred to me right after I posted. saw the option in the boot selections, booted up, then adjusted, all is well.

    thanks guys
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  6. Posts : 466
    Windows 7 Ultimate x64 and Home Premium x64
       #6

    severedsolo said:
    Rik55 said:
    Boot, hold F8, instead of Safe Mode, use VGA Low Res 640x480 mode. This puts you into Windows with all drivers loaded but in a Low resolution mode. Now you can change the resolution to your monitors native res.
    Good advice, its worth mentioning though, on some PC's (including mine) Safe Mode is not on F8, you may have to spam F5 to get a screen asking you what OS to boot, and THEN hit F8 to go to advanced options.
    No... I'm pretty sure that F8 is what you hit. It won't default directly into Safe Mode, but it will give you the option to boot into Safe Mode. Been that way since Win95. I usually stick with the safe mode as there will always be other issues to deal with. While using low resolution works, it is also good to know how to get into Safe Mode for other reasons.
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  7. Posts : 3,427
    Windows 10 Pro x64
       #7

    Keiichi25 said:
    severedsolo said:
    Rik55 said:
    Boot, hold F8, instead of Safe Mode, use VGA Low Res 640x480 mode. This puts you into Windows with all drivers loaded but in a Low resolution mode. Now you can change the resolution to your monitors native res.
    Good advice, its worth mentioning though, on some PC's (including mine) Safe Mode is not on F8, you may have to spam F5 to get a screen asking you what OS to boot, and THEN hit F8 to go to advanced options.
    No... I'm pretty sure that F8 is what you hit. It won't default directly into Safe Mode, but it will give you the option to boot into Safe Mode. Been that way since Win95.
    Yes your right, NORMALLY that is the case. However, some OEM's assign F8 to other functions (on mine for instance, its actually the "change boot order" button) In those cases you have to spam F5 first, to get a "dual boot" menu (which obviously isn't really dual boot if you only have 1 OS, but its the same screen)
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  8. Posts : 466
    Windows 7 Ultimate x64 and Home Premium x64
       #8

    Must be in Europe then. Most of the computers I've dealt with in the US has never assigned F8 for that. Dell's assign F12 for Boot Menu, most of the manufacturer boards I've worked with alternated what they used for the BIOS setup keys being F2, Del, or some other key or key-combo, but left F8 clear. *shrug*
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