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11 Oct 2010   #11
Lollies

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

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I posted this thread just for people like yourself, in hopes it would help them in chosing the card that is best suited for what they intended to use it for. Hope it can help you decide. Best Graphics Cards For The Money:October 2010 Fabe
After reading that numerous times it made me me want to either go with a GTX 460 SLI set-up or a Radeon HD 5850, or possibly a GTX 480. I think all of those except maybe the Readeon 5850 is above what I wanted to spend but I'm hoping it'll be worth it in the long run. I guess i just need to narrow it down from here.

I did find an SLI set-up of GTX 460's very appealing.




I just find gaming on consoles irritating anymore, there is no maturity 99% of the time and I figure kids have a harder time getting hold of a computer than they do a 200$ Xbox 360. Maybe my logic is wrong but I never got as irritated at other players playing pc games vs consoles games. I originally bought my xbox for Assassin's Creed and it just went down hill from there.



Yeah that again was very appealing, after looking at TheFabe's page he gave me.
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No problem Lollies.

Hmm, If what you're going to be doing is splitting your time between gaming and designing, then I'd recommend a single GPU setup. Since, and correct me if I'm wrong here, most of the time you are going to be designing, with X software, your video card is going to be idle, and a SLI setup is going to be drawing much more power than a single GPU setup @ idle.

I'd go for the Radeon HD 5870.

It's faster than the GTX 470 (in most cases) and consumes less power than any of the GF100 chips @ both idle and load.

It's just a top notch card, there's no way around it.
I believe you are correct. I mean I don't design things for a living but its what I love to do, I haven't done it in a while so hopefully after relearning everything I'll enjoy just as much as I did a few months ago. Gaming and that kinda went hand in hand. I don't design for a living or anything but I just think it would be used for that purpose more than gaming since I have been doing less and less of it now that I am working full time. Last time I played a game on my 360 was probably almost a month ago now.

I don't know much about Radeon, that is the only reason I'm skeptical but I am not against trying something new. I've always just been a Nividea junkie I guess.

I was drawn to this one for some reason when I was browsing.

ASUS ENGTX460 DirectCU TOP/2DI/1GD5 GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

or

ASUS EAH5850 DIRECTCU/2DIS/1GD5 Radeon HD 5850 (Cypress Pro) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card w/ Eyefinity
Big ASUS fan huh? =)

Both would be excellent choices.

I would personally go for the HD 5850.

Faster and less power hungry (@ load).
Their motherboard has served me well, I would hope the same for their graphics cards, but I have read mixed reviews. My EVGA card was very good but if I have an EVGA card then I want an EVGA motherboard (Its an OCD thing). Plus for each card, like the GTX 460 there are six different ones.

Now that I'm looking at EVGA cards this one caught my attention.

EVGA 012-P3-1470-AR GeForce GTX 470 (Fermi) 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

I like that, even in a SLI set-up it seems like it would be nice but then I run into the issue of, is my brand new 850 Watt power supply enough to support an SLI set-up? I should have gone with the Corsair AX1200 for this sole purpose but I was trying to save money I guess...


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11 Oct 2010   #12
SlackerITGuy

Windows 8.1 Pro
 
 

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After reading that numerous times it made me me want to either go with a GTX 460 SLI set-up or a Radeon HD 5850, or possibly a GTX 480. I think all of those except maybe the Readeon 5850 is above what I wanted to spend but I'm hoping it'll be worth it in the long run. I guess i just need to narrow it down from here.

I did find an SLI set-up of GTX 460's very appealing.




I just find gaming on consoles irritating anymore, there is no maturity 99% of the time and I figure kids have a harder time getting hold of a computer than they do a 200$ Xbox 360. Maybe my logic is wrong but I never got as irritated at other players playing pc games vs consoles games. I originally bought my xbox for Assassin's Creed and it just went down hill from there.



Yeah that again was very appealing, after looking at TheFabe's page he gave me.


I believe you are correct. I mean I don't design things for a living but its what I love to do, I haven't done it in a while so hopefully after relearning everything I'll enjoy just as much as I did a few months ago. Gaming and that kinda went hand in hand. I don't design for a living or anything but I just think it would be used for that purpose more than gaming since I have been doing less and less of it now that I am working full time. Last time I played a game on my 360 was probably almost a month ago now.

I don't know much about Radeon, that is the only reason I'm skeptical but I am not against trying something new. I've always just been a Nividea junkie I guess.

I was drawn to this one for some reason when I was browsing.

ASUS ENGTX460 DirectCU TOP/2DI/1GD5 GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

or

ASUS EAH5850 DIRECTCU/2DIS/1GD5 Radeon HD 5850 (Cypress Pro) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card w/ Eyefinity
Big ASUS fan huh? =)

Both would be excellent choices.

I would personally go for the HD 5850.

Faster and less power hungry (@ load).
Their motherboard has served me well, I would hope the same for their graphics cards, but I have read mixed reviews. My EVGA card was very good but if I have an EVGA card then I want an EVGA motherboard (Its an OCD thing). Plus for each card, like the GTX 460 there are six different ones.

Now that I'm looking at EVGA cards this one caught my attention.

EVGA 012-P3-1470-AR GeForce GTX 470 (Fermi) 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

I like that, even in a SLI set-up it seems like it would be nice but then I run into the issue of, is my brand new 850 Watt power supply enough to support an SLI set-up? I should have gone with the Corsair AX1200 for this sole purpose but I was trying to save money I guess...
No complaints at all on your decision of going with the GTX 470, specially with the EVGA one.

And don't worry, that 850W Corsair PSU you have, will be able to handle two GTX 470's with absolutely no trouble whatsoever.

I would be much more worried about the heat though. two GF100 chips in one case = insanely hot.

Just be prepared to download MSI Afterburner as soon as you get it, to crank up the fan speed to ~70%+.
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11 Oct 2010   #13
Lollies

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by SlackerITGuy View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Lollies View Post
/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130550
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Big ASUS fan huh? =)

Both would be excellent choices.

I would personally go for the HD 5850.

Faster and less power hungry (@ load).
Their motherboard has served me well, I would hope the same for their graphics cards, but I have read mixed reviews. My EVGA card was very good but if I have an EVGA card then I want an EVGA motherboard (Its an OCD thing). Plus for each card, like the GTX 460 there are six different ones.

Now that I'm looking at EVGA cards this one caught my attention.

EVGA 012-P3-1470-AR GeForce GTX 470 (Fermi) 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

I like that, even in a SLI set-up it seems like it would be nice but then I run into the issue of, is my brand new 850 Watt power supply enough to support an SLI set-up? I should have gone with the Corsair AX1200 for this sole purpose but I was trying to save money I guess...
No complaints at all on your decision of going with the GTX 470, specially with the EVGA one.

And don't worry, that 850W Corsair PSU you have, will be able to handle two GTX 470's with absolutely no trouble whatsoever.

I would be much more worried about the heat though. two GF100 chips in one case = insanely hot.

Just be prepared to download MSI Afterburner as soon as you get it, to crank up the fan speed to ~70%+.
Hmmm well i dono then. I really would like an SLI set-up although it is not entirely necessary. The Corsair 600T case has the 200mm intake and the 200m top exhaust, with the two 120mm fans in taking from the back of the case to cool the cpu (Corsair H70). I'd like to put more fans in it but there really is no option to. I'd think it would have enough air flow for all the components to stay at a reasonable temp.

EVGA 768-P3-1360-TR GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 768MB 192-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

or


EVGA 01G-P3-1373-AR GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) Superclocked EE 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card


There are multiple variations of those cards too so.


Also seems likes a relatively cheap and good option, correct me if I am wrong.
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11 Oct 2010   #14
SlackerITGuy

Windows 8.1 Pro
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Lollies View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by SlackerITGuy View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Lollies View Post
/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130550

Their motherboard has served me well, I would hope the same for their graphics cards, but I have read mixed reviews. My EVGA card was very good but if I have an EVGA card then I want an EVGA motherboard (Its an OCD thing). Plus for each card, like the GTX 460 there are six different ones.

Now that I'm looking at EVGA cards this one caught my attention.

EVGA 012-P3-1470-AR GeForce GTX 470 (Fermi) 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

I like that, even in a SLI set-up it seems like it would be nice but then I run into the issue of, is my brand new 850 Watt power supply enough to support an SLI set-up? I should have gone with the Corsair AX1200 for this sole purpose but I was trying to save money I guess...
No complaints at all on your decision of going with the GTX 470, specially with the EVGA one.

And don't worry, that 850W Corsair PSU you have, will be able to handle two GTX 470's with absolutely no trouble whatsoever.

I would be much more worried about the heat though. two GF100 chips in one case = insanely hot.

Just be prepared to download MSI Afterburner as soon as you get it, to crank up the fan speed to ~70%+.
Hmmm well i dono then. I really would like an SLI set-up although it is not entirely necessary. The Corsair 600T case has the 200mm intake and the 200m top exhaust, with the two 120mm fans in taking from the back of the case to cool the cpu (Corsair H70). I'd like to put more fans in it but there really is no option to. I'd think it would have enough air flow for all the components to stay at a reasonable temp.

EVGA 768-P3-1360-TR GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 768MB 192-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

or


EVGA 01G-P3-1373-AR GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) Superclocked EE 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card


There are multiple variations of those cards too so.


Also seems likes a relatively cheap and good option, correct me if I am wrong.
If you really really want an SLI setup, then look no further than a GTX 460 setup.

768MB or 1GB, doesn't really matter in that situation, you'll be reaching GTX 480 performance levels either way.
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12 Oct 2010   #15
Lollies

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

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No complaints at all on your decision of going with the GTX 470, specially with the EVGA one.

And don't worry, that 850W Corsair PSU you have, will be able to handle two GTX 470's with absolutely no trouble whatsoever.

I would be much more worried about the heat though. two GF100 chips in one case = insanely hot.

Just be prepared to download MSI Afterburner as soon as you get it, to crank up the fan speed to ~70%+.
Hmmm well i dono then. I really would like an SLI set-up although it is not entirely necessary. The Corsair 600T case has the 200mm intake and the 200m top exhaust, with the two 120mm fans in taking from the back of the case to cool the cpu (Corsair H70). I'd like to put more fans in it but there really is no option to. I'd think it would have enough air flow for all the components to stay at a reasonable temp.

EVGA 768-P3-1360-TR GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 768MB 192-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

or


EVGA 01G-P3-1373-AR GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) Superclocked EE 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card


There are multiple variations of those cards too so.


Also seems likes a relatively cheap and good option, correct me if I am wrong.
If you really really want an SLI setup, then look no further than a GTX 460 setup.

768MB or 1GB, doesn't really matter in that situation, you'll be reaching GTX 480 performance levels either way.
Well after considering all of the viable options I still have not come to a conclusion.

The two EVGA 460 cards I was looking at on NewEgg add up to more than a 480, so why not get that? But then that puts out a lot of heat, and a significant amount more heat in an SLI set-up. Then is it really worth the money for a 480 @ 500ish$ when its probably going to go down in price significantly in the near future (I know everything is like that). Could my new case handle one? Probably. Could my new case handle the heat from two in an SLI Set-up? Not as well as someone with a
high tower with 6 fans in it.

So in conclusion I have no conclusion...someone choose for me.

On a side note I saw on a review on NewEgg that someone got the 480 for 380ish after main in rebate with a PAX redemtion code. If I could get it for that I would in a second but PAX is over now and I found no former information on such a thing. I did get some Astro A40's Headphones with a PAX discount code so I would believe it.
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12 Oct 2010   #16
SlackerITGuy

Windows 8.1 Pro
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Lollies View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by SlackerITGuy View Post
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Hmmm well i dono then. I really would like an SLI set-up although it is not entirely necessary. The Corsair 600T case has the 200mm intake and the 200m top exhaust, with the two 120mm fans in taking from the back of the case to cool the cpu (Corsair H70). I'd like to put more fans in it but there really is no option to. I'd think it would have enough air flow for all the components to stay at a reasonable temp.

EVGA 768-P3-1360-TR GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 768MB 192-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

or


EVGA 01G-P3-1373-AR GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) Superclocked EE 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card


There are multiple variations of those cards too so.


Also seems likes a relatively cheap and good option, correct me if I am wrong.
If you really really want an SLI setup, then look no further than a GTX 460 setup.

768MB or 1GB, doesn't really matter in that situation, you'll be reaching GTX 480 performance levels either way.
Well after considering all of the viable options I still have not come to a conclusion.

The two EVGA 460 cards I was looking at on NewEgg add up to more than a 480, so why not get that? But then that puts out a lot of heat, and a significant amount more heat in an SLI set-up. Then is it really worth the money for a 480 @ 500ish$ when its probably going to go down in price significantly in the near future (I know everything is like that). Could my new case handle one? Probably. Could my new case handle the heat from two in an SLI Set-up? Not as well as someone with a
high tower with 6 fans in it.

So in conclusion I have no conclusion...someone choose for me.

On a side note I saw on a review on NewEgg that someone got the 480 for 380ish after main in rebate with a PAX redemtion code. If I could get it for that I would in a second but PAX is over now and I found no former information on such a thing. I did get some Astro A40's Headphones with a PAX discount code so I would believe it.
You were probably looking at one of EVGA's GTX 460 1GB models. Which are going for ~$240 right now.

Like I said, even with two vanilla GTX 460 768MB, you would be reaching GTX 480 performance levels, for about ~$340.

Courtesy of Guru3d.com (on GTX 460 768 MB SLI performance):

Quote:
... in fact in this solution most of the time you will be even much faster than the mighty hot and noisy GeForce GTX 480...
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12 Oct 2010   #17
Lollies

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

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If you really really want an SLI setup, then look no further than a GTX 460 setup.

768MB or 1GB, doesn't really matter in that situation, you'll be reaching GTX 480 performance levels either way.
Well after considering all of the viable options I still have not come to a conclusion.

The two EVGA 460 cards I was looking at on NewEgg add up to more than a 480, so why not get that? But then that puts out a lot of heat, and a significant amount more heat in an SLI set-up. Then is it really worth the money for a 480 @ 500ish$ when its probably going to go down in price significantly in the near future (I know everything is like that). Could my new case handle one? Probably. Could my new case handle the heat from two in an SLI Set-up? Not as well as someone with a
high tower with 6 fans in it.

So in conclusion I have no conclusion...someone choose for me.

On a side note I saw on a review on NewEgg that someone got the 480 for 380ish after main in rebate with a PAX redemtion code. If I could get it for that I would in a second but PAX is over now and I found no former information on such a thing. I did get some Astro A40's Headphones with a PAX discount code so I would believe it.
You were probably looking at one of EVGA's GTX 460 1GB models. Which are going for ~$240 right now.

Like I said, even with two vanilla GTX 460 768MB, you would be reaching GTX 480 performance levels, for about ~$340.

Courtesy of Guru3d.com (on GTX 460 768 MB SLI performance):

Quote:
... in fact in this solution most of the time you will be even much faster than the mighty hot and noisy GeForce GTX 480...
Yeah I was looking at the 1GB models, why such such a significant price increase from 768MB to 1G? Does it really increase performance that much?
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12 Oct 2010   #18
SlackerITGuy

Windows 8.1 Pro
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Lollies View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by SlackerITGuy View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Lollies View Post

Well after considering all of the viable options I still have not come to a conclusion.

The two EVGA 460 cards I was looking at on NewEgg add up to more than a 480, so why not get that? But then that puts out a lot of heat, and a significant amount more heat in an SLI set-up. Then is it really worth the money for a 480 @ 500ish$ when its probably going to go down in price significantly in the near future (I know everything is like that). Could my new case handle one? Probably. Could my new case handle the heat from two in an SLI Set-up? Not as well as someone with a
high tower with 6 fans in it.

So in conclusion I have no conclusion...someone choose for me.

On a side note I saw on a review on NewEgg that someone got the 480 for 380ish after main in rebate with a PAX redemtion code. If I could get it for that I would in a second but PAX is over now and I found no former information on such a thing. I did get some Astro A40's Headphones with a PAX discount code so I would believe it.
You were probably looking at one of EVGA's GTX 460 1GB models. Which are going for ~$240 right now.

Like I said, even with two vanilla GTX 460 768MB, you would be reaching GTX 480 performance levels, for about ~$340.

Courtesy of Guru3d.com (on GTX 460 768 MB SLI performance):

Quote:
... in fact in this solution most of the time you will be even much faster than the mighty hot and noisy GeForce GTX 480...
Yeah I was looking at the 1GB models, why such such a significant price increase from 768MB to 1G? Does it really increase performance that much?
~5% to ~10% faster.
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12 Oct 2010   #19
Lollies

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by SlackerITGuy View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Lollies View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by SlackerITGuy View Post
You were probably looking at one of EVGA's GTX 460 1GB models. Which are going for ~$240 right now.

Like I said, even with two vanilla GTX 460 768MB, you would be reaching GTX 480 performance levels, for about ~$340.

Courtesy of Guru3d.com (on GTX 460 768 MB SLI performance):
Yeah I was looking at the 1GB models, why such such a significant price increase from 768MB to 1G? Does it really increase performance that much?
~5% to ~10% faster.
Hmmm I'm compelled to go with the

ASUS ENGTX460 DirectCU TOP/2DI/1GD5 GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card


I mentioned previously now, and after looking at Rig of the Month after browsing the site, looking for that quote you posted.

Found this interesting also:
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by [B
Outstanding product: Nvidia GeForce GTX 460 SLI graphics cards (1GB)[/B] While we have tested exclusively with the 1GB version of the GeForce GTX 460, a combination that will cost at least $450, there is also the option of going for the 768MB version which will reduce the price tag to just $400. It's a valid alternative and we doubt the 1GB cards can cover the ~13% pricing gap, but as we look into future game releases we recommend you opt for the 1GB offerings.
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15 Oct 2010   #20
Lollies

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

I'm looking at getting two for an SLI Set-up.

ASUS ENGTX460 DirectCU/2DI/1GD5 GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card


OR


ASUS ENGTX460 DirectCU TOP/2DI/1GD5 GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card



The 768MB version has been deactivated for whatever reason. Asus 768 MB GTX 460

I don't know if it is worth it or not for the extra 1G but I get my check on Saturday so I will probably be ordering something come Monday or Tuesday. As far as I know my motherboard will support both of these cards in SLI fine, correct me if I am wrong. I will probably be upgrading to DDR3, plus a new motherboard, and CPU in the near future but what I have now I think is adequate.
______________________________________________________________________________

Just noticed the other 768Mb GTX 460 they have.


ASUS ENGTX460 DirectCU TOP/2DI/768MD5 GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 768MB 192-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

______________________________________________________________________________

ASUS ENGTX460 DirectCU/2DI/1GD5 GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

x2 $459.98


ASUS ENGTX460 DirectCU TOP/2DI/1GD5 GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
x2 $489.98

ASUS ENGTX460 DirectCU TOP/2DI/768MD5 GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 768MB 192-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
x2 $349.98
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