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Windows 7: Graphics Card/Onboard Graphics for Media Centre PC

29 May 2011   #101
Fumz

7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Sheepdisease View Post
The components I have spare from the other PC wont be sufficient for my gaming requirements will they? So do I wait now until more is heard about this new hardware coming out soon?
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I want to play using highest settings.

Recommended system requirements:
  • 2nd Generation Intel® Core™i5 processor (or greater), or AMD equivalent
  • 2GB RAM (XP), 4GB RAM (Vista / Windows7)
  • AMD Radeon HD 5000 and 6000 series graphics cards or equivalent DirectX 11 compatible graphics card
You already know what you need. If you want to start playing, then get a card. If you want to wait, that's fine, but the game's requirements aren't getting any more demanding... a 6870 or a 570 is going to play your game just as good today as it is in a month or 18.


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30 May 2011   #102
Sheepdisease

Windows 7
 
 

I have checked on Overclockers UK and managed to compile the following list:

What do you think of the following?

MSI ATI Radeon HD 6950 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £219.98
AMD AMD Phenom II X4 Quad Core 955 Black Edition "125W Edition" 3.20GHz (Socket AM3) - Retail £89.99
Gigabyte GA-880GA-UD3H AMD 880G (Socket AM3) DDR3 Motherboard £88.99
Corsair XMS3 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (CMX4GX3M2A1600C9) £39.98

(Overclockers UK)

I've checked and I am pretty sure the current PSU I have will be sufficient. I also think the GPU will support bitstreaming.
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30 May 2011   #103
Fumz

7 Ultimate x64
 
 

I think you'd be well advised to stay as far from MSI as possible... just about every other vendor has superior support.

I haven't had an AMD since Conroe, I only know Intel has been kicking AMD's butt for quite a while now... hard. If the price difference between this AMD rig and the Intel rig you're about to go looking for is minimal, then get the Intel rig.

Yes, a 6950 will run your games nicely at 1920 and it will Bitstream. All you need to do now is make sure your receiver has hdmi 1.3 or above ports, and that you use hdmi 2.0 cables.

Recall that Bitstreaming is just passing all audio off to the receiver. You're only using the hdmi connection to the card as an audio conduit.
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30 May 2011   #104
Sheepdisease

Windows 7
 
 

What makes Intel stand out and beat AMD at the moment?

Apart from being sold as an MSI product, the card I have listed is good isn't it?

Luckily my AV features HDMI v1.3 connectivity supporting 'Deep Colour', 1080p resolutions, 24 frames per second 'native film' format and format upconversion from all inputs to HDMI with video scaling to full 1080p HD resolution, the DSPAX863SE has fantastic video performance. Component video, S-Video and composite video inputs and outputs also ensure compatibility with older equipment.

Everything else is connected to the TV via the AV (including Blu-Ray Player, PS2 and Wii).
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30 May 2011   #105
essenbe

Windows 10 Pro/ Windows 10 Pro Insider
 
 

Sheepdisease, I can tell you what you need to meet your specfications for a gaming rig. However I can't help with the video center and bitstreaming. Listen to Fumz, he knows what he is talking about. Fumz is your guy.
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30 May 2011   #106
Fumz

7 Ultimate x64
 
 

It's been longer than just a moment. Intel has been kicking AMD's keister since 2006 with the introduction of Conroe. Since then, no matter what AMD has tried, they just haven't been able to produce a processor that can keep up with Intel. Even the AMD 6 core cpu's get crushed by Intel quads.

I don't know what's happening over at AMD because it used to be the opposite. Intel were the big boys with the huge market share... and AMD was the little engine that could, continually producing one chip after another that was just faster than Intel.

Here's where the 955 stands, below the 1156 i5's. CPU Benchmark, Part 2: Mainstream Processors. Page 6 - X-bit labs. Here's how well the AMD 6 core cpu's stand up to last generation Intel cpus. CPU Benchmark, Part 3: High-End Processors. Page 6 - X-bit labs... and if that weren't bad enough, along comes Sandy Bridge. Core i7-990X Extreme Edition vs. Core i7-2600K. Page 4 - X-bit labs

Those Phenom's just look lost and alone hanging out waaaaay down there at the bottom of the list... kinda makes you sad.
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30 May 2011   #107
Sheepdisease

Windows 7
 
 

Right, well that is fair enough! I think I am beginning to understand.

Could you please provide me with an alternative list of hardware, which would come to around the same price and achieve the desired end result?
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30 May 2011   #108
Fumz

7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Sheepdisease View Post
Right, well that is fair enough! I think I am beginning to understand.

Could you please provide me with an alternative list of hardware, which would come to around the same price and achieve the desired end result?
No... that's your job. You have links to how the cpu's perform... now pick one and go find out how much it is?

I don't mind critiquing hardware, or nudging someone in a direction I feel is better performance/price wise once you've made your decision(s), but, I don't feel it's my place to choose your hardware for you. It's a karma thing...
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04 Jun 2011   #109
Sheepdisease

Windows 7
 
 

1.
Sapphire 21188-00-40R HD 6950 2GB GDDR5 Graphics Card Offered by boomdeal by SAPPHIRE £235.00


2.
Asus P8P67 New B3 Rev Motherboard (P67 chipset ATX, Intel?s 1155 Socket, USB 3.0/Sata 6Gb/s, Dual Lan, Bluetooth & Digi+VRM ) by Asus£134.00


3.
Corsair CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9 8GB 1600MHz CL9 DDR3 Vengeance Memory Two Module Kit Offered by KOMPBAY by Corsair
£68.50


4.
Intel Core i7-2600 Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost) 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Offered by KOMPBAY by Intel
£219.89

Total: £657.39

This is what I am now considering. What are you thoughts?
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04 Jun 2011   #110
Fumz

7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Well done.

... now go get yourself a quality power supply.
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