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Windows 7: Sandybridge GPU

06 Jun 2011   #11
cmd187

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P67 are now pointless. You want Z68. All benefits of LGA 1155, no cons.
Hm, still prefer this one...
Nice choice. P67 is hardly pointless. In fact, one could make the same argument against Z68: if you have a graphics card, Z68 is pointless. See how that can work both ways.
P67 cannot run the onboard GPU at the same time as a dedicated card. Z68 can, so its more robust and flexible. If you go for P67 you are stuck with a GPU, not so with the Z68. Your choice if you want onboard, dedicated, or both.


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06 Jun 2011   #12
Fumz

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Hm, still prefer this one...
Nice choice. P67 is hardly pointless. In fact, one could make the same argument against Z68: if you have a graphics card, Z68 is pointless. See how that can work both ways.
P67 cannot run the onboard GPU at the same time as a dedicated card. Z68 can, so its more robust and flexible. If you go for P67 you are stuck with a GPU, not so with the Z68. Your choice if you want onboard, dedicated, or both.
"stuck" with a gpu that can run games instead of onboard which can't... yeah.
You understood the logic of my post, right?
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06 Jun 2011   #13
cmd187

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Nice choice. P67 is hardly pointless. In fact, one could make the same argument against Z68: if you have a graphics card, Z68 is pointless. See how that can work both ways.
P67 cannot run the onboard GPU at the same time as a dedicated card. Z68 can, so its more robust and flexible. If you go for P67 you are stuck with a GPU, not so with the Z68. Your choice if you want onboard, dedicated, or both.
"stuck" with a gpu that can run games instead of onboard which can't... yeah.
You understood the logic of my post, right?
But if you then stop playing games and wish to use the built-in Quick Sync of the integrated GPU to vastly accelerate your video encodes you can't. And only Z68 can switch off the power hungry GPU depending on the Virtu settings. Best of both worlds, so P67 is pointless.
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06 Jun 2011   #14
Fumz

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P67 cannot run the onboard GPU at the same time as a dedicated card. Z68 can, so its more robust and flexible. If you go for P67 you are stuck with a GPU, not so with the Z68. Your choice if you want onboard, dedicated, or both.
"stuck" with a gpu that can run games instead of onboard which can't... yeah.
You understood the logic of my post, right?
But if you then stop playing games and wish to use the built-in Quick Sync of the integrated GPU to vastly accelerate your video encodes you can't. And only Z68 can switch off the power hungry GPU depending on the Virtu settings. Best of both worlds, so P67 is pointless.
"Vastly?"

Clearly, we disagree on what "vast" means. To me, vast means large... of great size. If you're suggesting that encoding is "vastly" superior on the Z68, then please, support that claim with links. The only thing I find is that they're essentially identical.
Fully-Fledged LGA1155 Platform: Intel Z68 Express Chipset Review. Page 5 - X-bit labs
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[The three major media encoding applications that can take advantage of Quick Sync are MediaConverter, MediaEspresso, and Badaboom. By default, the first two programs are whitelisted by Virtu, but we can't get the latest version of MediaConverter 7 to transcode Blu-ray-quality video. For some reason, the progress bar stalls at 0%. This seems to be a glitch limited to our Z68 platform, which we hope will be solved quickly.
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As for the Z68 using less power, that's also false.
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The only drawback we found about the new Intel Z68 chipset is higher power consumption of the systems with it. Our tests showed that the platforms built around an older P67 chipset, which doesn’t give you access to the integrated graphics core, consume considerably less power.
Fully-Fledged LGA1155 Platform: Intel Z68 Express Chipset Review. Page 11 - X-bit labs
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06 Jun 2011   #15
cmd187

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Only their power consumption tests, and it depends for each set up; as for Quick Sync:

"Another useful advantage is Virtu technology developed by Lucid Company. This technology allows users of Sandy Bridge systems with discrete graphics cards to get access to one of the most interesting CPU features Intel Quick Sync technology. This technology integrated into the graphics core inside the CPU delivers unprecedented HD video transcoding speed and now it automatically becomes an advantage of any Intel Z68 based system supporting Virtu without the need to compromise."
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06 Jun 2011   #16
Fumz

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omg dude... really?

Go back, click the links, see where the encoding performance is identical. Come back here wondering why that's the case, then re-read this:
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[The three major media encoding applications that can take advantage of Quick Sync are MediaConverter, MediaEspresso, and Badaboom. By default, the first two programs are whitelisted by Virtu, but we can't get the latest version of MediaConverter 7 to transcode Blu-ray-quality video. For some reason, the progress bar stalls at 0%. This seems to be a glitch limited to our Z68 platform, which we hope will be solved quickly.
Lucidlogix

That "unprecedented transcoding speed" doesn't actually exist... look up 1 sentence to see why.
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06 Jun 2011   #17
cmd187

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Look at the conclusion - page 11. Its there. And this is a driver glitch for a new platform. It will be ironed out and performance will improve.
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06 Jun 2011   #18
Fumz

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I'm sure the platform will improve... that was never in question. Hopefully Intel won't devote all their energy to X79. The point of all this back and forth though remains the same... and that's that while Z68 is a full feature board that can take advantage of the on die gpu, not everyone will want or need this, so P67 isn't "pointless".

I don't think I've ever had a board where I used all of its features... and I know I'm not alone. If someone finds a better deal on a P67 that has everything he needs and nothing he doesn't, then it's still a good buy.
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06 Jun 2011   #19
cmd187

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You may need this option in the future, and you wouldn't be happy knowing that a Z68 option would give you what you wanted but you chose a more limited chipset.
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06 Jun 2011   #20
Fumz

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The right platform for the right job.

Never mind that I have zero interest in encoding video, nor will I develop an interest in encoding video, but if for arguments sake I did, I would not pick Z68 to do the job. I'd get a hex-core AMD.
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