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Windows 7: Nvidia Drivers & TV-OUT

12 Jan 2009   #1
delpinsky

Windows 7
 
 
Nvidia Drivers & TV-OUT

I've just installed latest Vista WHQL drivers in the attempt to make it work the TV-OUT mode as on XP.. but no way.

Anyone know how to activate fullscreen video on second monitor?
maybe a register entry?

As for the default W7 online-update drivers, no option.

Any help?
Thanks in advance

* there's a similar thread for ATI, but I guessed I could make a new one for nVidia cards...

BTW as dual boot, Windows 7 really rocks! I can't believe my eyes...
and my old AMD64 too

Thanks guys for this forum!


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16 Jan 2009   #2
c128

Windows 7
 
 

I seem to have the same problem...

I've tried the latest Vista WHQL drivers today (181.20) and, prior to that, the NVIDIA drivers available from Windows Update automagically. However...although I can enable the VGA and DVI/HDMI outputs of my 8600GT to one of my TVs, I just can't get the component-out connection working to my second TV (usuallly detected fine and appears as "HDTV" on the NVIDIA control panel). Re-booted into Vista and all is well there, just won't work in Windows 7.

I've also noticed that the Windows 7 machine suffers from the washed-out blacks that I had on Vista with the newer drivers...
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16 Jan 2009   #3
delpinsky

Windows 7
 
 

Well, I used Vista not so much... don't remember if there worked the fullscreen output on my TV

Surfing on nVidia forums,
seems like nVidia cut that feature from its drivers and Cards due to some kind of DRM added by Microsoft already in Vista.

"Notes from Nvidia Control Panel Help File under full-screen video:
Full-screen video mirroring is not available for GeForce 8 series and later GPUs"

https://nvidia.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/...ted=1169076830

"Full Screen Video Mirroring is not supported for any NVIDIA based GPU under Microsoft's Windows Vista operating system".

Very bad, if there is no registry string to fix this..
I guess then, It doesn't work for you Fullscreen output on Vista.

What is ugly is that ATI cards have the same feature, called Theater Mode, and it works!
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16 Jan 2009   #4
c128

Windows 7
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by delpinsky View Post
I guess then, It doesn't work for you Fullscreen output on Vista.
The thing is...it does work, always has (for me). I use it in Vista to clone my display between a plasma in my lounge (HDMI) and an LCD in my kitchen (Component).
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17 Jan 2009   #5
c128

Windows 7
 
 

I've done a bit more digging on this after your info above (very useful - thanks)... It turns out that on my Vista install, where cloned TV Out over component in full-screen works fine, I have quite an old version of the NVIDIA drivers for my 8600GT - 163.69, to be precise. Installing 163.75 (the nearest available Vista GeForce archived release to 163.69) on Windows 7 and TV Out in full-screen clone mode works there too. Obviously not ideal as these drivers are dated around 2007, but a workaround for me at the moment (note that there is a crash on install of these on Windows 7, but it actually works fine afterwards). I guess (slightly) later GeForce releases may also work, but I haven't tried them.

This whole debate about cloned mirroring between two displays with NVidia cards on Vista (and I presume Windows 7) is really worrying though, and I didn't know anything about that. Looks like I'm going to be looking at an ATI card in the longer term, which is something I'd been thinking about anyway...
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17 Jan 2009   #6
delpinsky

Windows 7
 
 

So do you use "Clone" option instead of "Dual View"?

I tried installing on Seven, drivers 174xx and below.. but they refuse to install for hardware incompatibility.

By the way.. if you managed to make it work,
if you can check in some ways the registry and find out which string/key is related to fullscreen... you might export it, and then import it using the latest drivers.

It's what I was lookin for

- my next card, no more sure if it will be nVidia again...
unless they fix this problem! Very big one.
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18 Jan 2009   #7
c128

Windows 7
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by delpinsky View Post
So do you use "Clone" option instead of "Dual View"?
I always use "Clone" - 1080p over DVI/HDMI to my TV in the lounge and 1080i over TV Out component to an LCD in my kitchen. Exactly the same on both displays.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by delpinsky View Post
I tried installing on Seven, drivers 174xx and below.. but they refuse to install for hardware incompatibility.
The Vista 32-bit version of 163.75 did install for me - I can't remember if there was a warning about OS version, and it certainly did crash with an error dialogue during the installation, but it did install and work in the end.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by delpinsky View Post
By the way.. if you managed to make it work,
if you can check in some ways the registry and find out which string/key is related to fullscreen... you might export it, and then import it using the latest drivers.

It's what I was lookin for
I'll have a look, but I suspect there's something more fundamental in the later drivers to mess with things... To clarify, when I use the latest drivers on Windows 7 the NVIDIA control panel won't even detect my display that's connected via component to TV Out - the "Rigorous Detection" thing does nothing either. However, with the Vista 163.75 drivers it all works on Windows 7 as it does for me with 163.69 on Vista.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by delpinsky View Post
my next card, no more sure if it will be nVidia again...
unless they fix this problem! Very big one.
Same for me, I think. I know that AMD/ATI have their problems too, but as a non-gamer just interested in a decent HTPC card with different connection options, I'm thinking I should have gone for an HD3450 (or similar). When I need to upgrade, it will now be an ATI.
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15 Feb 2009   #8
simsj

 
 
nvidia

I can get my lg flat monitor to work but when i use it on my flat tv via HDMI it is over sized screen and adjusting screen res does not help. You can barely click on some things that are out of the picture. My onboard ethernet adapter drivers will not work as well i think it says marvell the brand is marvell.
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16 Feb 2009   #9
Dragor1

Windows 7 Ultimate (64 bit) dual boot with Fedora KDE
 
 

I had no problems whatsoever getting TV Out to work in Win7. I have 181.22 Win Vista WHQL drivers. Although I do have to force TV detection; but I have to do it for TV Out to work.

I have a pretty old 21" CRT TV {am lucky it has a Composite in jack! :P } and although I had to adjust the picture at the first try, the settings were saved and it looks spectacular now.

I would also like to say that I did not install the drivers by double clicking the setup.exe. Rather, I uninstalled my previous driver, rebooted, and used Device manager to look for the drivers after I extracted the drivers from the Setup.exe using WinRAR.

Hope this helps!
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06 May 2009   #10
buschbarber

Windows 7 RC1
 
 
Windows 7 RC1 and HDTV

I am currently running XP Pro and Windows 7 in a Dual Boot. I have an Nvidia 8400GS connected to a Sony 50" HDTV, DVI to HDMI, and to a 20" analog monitor via VGA.

I am using the Nvidia 182.5 drivers with XP Pro and outputting to the HDTV at 1900x1080. I use the HDTV as a Single display because I never got Clone to work well with a monitor and an HDTV. I had to use Resize the Display to shrink the Desktop so it would fit on the HDTV.

I am using the Nvidia 185 drivers for Windows 7. When I try to use 1080p, I cannot shrink the Desktop to fit the HDTV. It seems to be maxed out. I had to switch to 720p. I was able to shrink the display but I would rather be at 1080p
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