Graphic Card is dying?

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  1. Posts : 231
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    Graphic Card is dying?


    I have recently purchased a ASUS GTX 650 TI (This one ASUS - GTX650TI-O-1GD5) and have been getting only 15FPS in GTA 4, I also modded the cars in the game. In other games, it some times drops like 20 FPS.
    My CPU is a AMD Athlon ii x4 635, 4GB RAM 1600, and 500W Corsair CX500 Builder Series.
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  2. Posts : 1,269
    Windows 7 Ultimate Retail Box (64-bit installed) + Service Pack 1
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    It's your CPU that is bottleneck/main limiting factor [and your motherboard's chipset is probably a factor too: AMD 880G]

    Your motherboard is not listed in your specs, so I can't recommend an upgrade, yet.

    Get that info from CPU-Z off cpuid.com, the Mainboard tab or run msinfo32.exe and it's hopefully listed as System Model:

    I went to Acer's website and even there I couldn't get the motherboard info.

    If it's AM3 upgradable but not AM3+, then this is the top end replacement now:

    http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...82E16819103727
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  3. Posts : 231
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    Faladu said:
    It's your CPU that is bottleneck/main limiting factor [and your motherboard's chipset is probably a factor too: AMD 880G]

    Your motherboard is not listed in your specs, so I can't recommend an upgrade, yet.

    Get that info from CPU-Z off cpuid.com, the Mainboard tab or run msinfo32.exe and it's hopefully listed as System Model:

    I went to Acer's website and even there I couldn't get the motherboard info.

    If it's AM3 upgradable but not AM3+, then this is the top end replacement now:

    Newegg.ca - AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor HDZ965FBGMBOX
    The mainboard is a AMD880G, and the CPU I have already in there is a socket AM3 (938).
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  4. Posts : 231
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       #4

    Can someone give me an explaination of CPU bottlenecking and a list of the signs of a bottleneck. Sometimes my games, just freeze for a sec, then everything goes back to normal.
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  5. Posts : 1,269
    Windows 7 Ultimate Retail Box (64-bit installed) + Service Pack 1
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    AMD 880G is a chipset, not a motherboard model, I had looked it up before I replied, if CPU-Z sees just 880G too, well it's an imperfect app, so not completely

    My motherboard does show up right in it.

    So Acer likely used a bunch of generic motherboards, often times buy in 10,000 size chunks, and even different manufacturer's within the same sold as 'model'.

    Just makes it harder for the user to deal with if trying to go outside their website's support/drivers.

    Bottleneck wise:

    Motherboard chipset and overall speeds affected, CPU speed/and possible lack of instruction sets available that would run some things better, RAM speed, video card, internet/network speed and hard drives are your possible bottlenecks.

    Watch this video on youtube for bottleneck info:

    Understanding Hardware "Bottlenecks" and How to Avoid Them (NCIX Tech Tips #81) - YouTube

    Like I said though, I promise your CPU is your bottleneck, you want a Phenom II class AMD at the least, an FX one would be nice if the motherboard is compatible, but Phenom II should improve your gaming drastically.

    I just upgraded to a FX-8350 90 mins ago, the current top available AMD CPU available, to improve my own bottlenecking, that I knew would improve with this one, I just got a huge boost to multitasking and encoding when I do any of that, general gaming was not likely to be much different, but it's so new I haven't tested it yet.
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  6. Posts : 231
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       #6

    Faladu said:
    AMD 880G is a chipset, not a motherboard model, I had looked it up before I replied, if CPU-Z sees just 880G too, well it's an imperfect app, so not completely

    My motherboard does show up right in it.

    So Acer likely used a bunch of generic motherboards, often times buy in 10,000 size chunks, and even different manufacturer's within the same sold as 'model'.

    Just makes it harder for the user to deal with if trying to go outside their website's support/drivers.

    Bottleneck wise:

    Motherboard chipset and overall speeds affected, CPU speed/and possible lack of instruction sets available that would run some things better, RAM speed, video card, internet/network speed and hard drives are your possible bottlenecks.

    Watch this video on youtube for bottleneck info:

    Understanding Hardware "Bottlenecks" and How to Avoid Them (NCIX Tech Tips #81) - YouTube

    Like I said though, I promise your CPU is your bottleneck, you want a Phenom II class AMD at the least, an FX one would be nice if the motherboard is compatible, but Phenom II should improve your gaming drastically.

    I just upgraded to a FX-8350 90 mins ago, the current top available AMD CPU available, to improve my own bottlenecking, that I knew would improve with this one, I just got a huge boost to multitasking and encoding when I do any of that, general gaming was not likely to be much different, but it's so new I haven't tested it yet.
    Well I am going to build a new computer in the summer. But its still a while away here are some screenshots of my computer specs.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Graphic Card is dying?-cpu.jpg   Graphic Card is dying?-caches.jpg   Graphic Card is dying?-mainboard.jpg   Graphic Card is dying?-memory.jpg   Graphic Card is dying?-graphics.jpg  

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  7. Posts : 11,424
    Windows 7 Ultimate 64
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    Nice rig. You'll be over the moon when you can start build your own ground up rig. Have you built one before?
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  8. Posts : 7,466
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    Athlon is the bottle neck a Phenom IIX4 925 will beat that chip up if you are running AM2+ you can use AM3 chips such as phenoms AM3+ NO

    you could probably get a 965BE for 70 bucks then the Bottlenecking will be over

    The Athlon you have is very weak even overclocked

    also why are you running Single channel on your ram do you have but one ram stick ?
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  9. Posts : 231
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    linnemeyerhere said:
    Nice rig. You'll be over the moon when you can start build your own ground up rig. Have you built one before?
    Nope, but if I do need help I know where to ask.

    Solarstarshines said:
    Athlon is the bottle neck a Phenom IIX4 925 will beat that chip up if you are running AM2+ you can use AM3 chips such as phenoms AM3+ NO

    you could probably get a 965BE for 70 bucks then the Bottlenecking will be over

    The Athlon you have is very weak even overclocked

    also why are you running Single channel on your ram do you have but one ram stick ?
    I have 2 sticks of RAM, both are 2GB. But I dont know what you mean by Single Channel.
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  10. Posts : 1,269
    Windows 7 Ultimate Retail Box (64-bit installed) + Service Pack 1
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    OP, when piecing together, pcpartpicker.com is wonderful.

    Here's a $600 budget rig I pieced together a while back on there:

    AMD A10-5800K, NZXT Gamma Classic (Black) - System Build - PCPartPicker

    Note: that includes a new CPU with on-board Radeon HD 7660D (not sold as a card).

    That will be considerably better parts than a store bought one at that price.

    I don't know where he got single channel from either.

    See this for explanation of the tech:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dual-channel
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