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Windows 7: Install AGP Drivers for HD 3850, 3650, 2400 PRO

23 Nov 2009   #111
S3nd41

Windows 7
 
 

Hello,

Thank you very much for this tutorial. I was using the AGP hotfix but now I managed to install these drivers which, hopefully, will improve my old pc's performance.

However, when I try to run Setup to install the Control Center, the only options I have available for installing are the Install Manager itself, which he installs from the original directory to the Program Files directory, and C++ Runtime. There's no Catalyst Control Center available whatsoever.

I've read somewhere that the installer doesn't install it because it doesn't recognize the driver in use, which was installed using your .inf.

Is there someway to bypass this or should I just install the control center from the hotfix installation file?


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23 Nov 2009   #112
torrentg

7600.20510 x86
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by S3nd41 View Post
I've read somewhere that the installer doesn't install it because it doesn't recognize the driver in use, which was installed using your .inf.
You're welcome.

That's completely false. The CCC will install well using Custom Mode of installation as opposed to Express, if you're having trouble.

If not, then the driver itself is not installed well or you have some other system trouble related to software.

Mine shows "up to date" because it's installed already.


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24 Nov 2009   #113
Big Monstro

Windows 7
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ah802 View Post
AGP and windows 7 are not the best mix.
No, the problem is really linked to ATI/AMD and their poor drivers for AGP card.

The AGP Nvidia Geforce Series 7 run Aero perfectly under Windows 7.
The AGP Nvidia GeForce 6600/6800 run Aero well under Windows 7 too.
There are performance issues only with GeForce 6200 and GeForce FX.

Windows Aero runs fine with an (AGP) Nvidia GeForce 6600 or higher.
Even with Win7, a powerful Nvidia AGP card is better than a cheap PCI-E one.
Windows 7 supports AGP cards as Windows Vista does it.

Even recent PCI (not express) Nvidia cards are supported under Windows 7.

I wanted to buy an AGP graphic card to get a hardware support on H.264 playback.
Unfortunately for me, the ATI support for AGP Radeon HD isn't serious and there
are no AGP Nvidia since GeForce 8 : only PCI-E and PCI. Given PCI is worse than
AGP 2x brandwith, perhaps I should buy a new motherboard and a PCI-E card...
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24 Nov 2009   #114
torrentg

7600.20510 x86
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Big Monstro View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ah802 View Post
AGP and windows 7 are not the best mix.
No, the problem is really linked to ATI/AMD and their poor drivers for AGP card.

The AGP Nvidia Geforce Series 7 run Aero perfectly under Windows 7.
The AGP Nvidia GeForce 6600/6800 run Aero well under Windows 7 too.
There are performance issues only with GeForce 6200 and GeForce FX.

Windows Aero runs fine with an (AGP) Nvidia GeForce 6600 or higher.
Even with Win7, a powerful Nvidia AGP card is better than a cheap PCI-E one.
Windows 7 supports AGP cards as Windows Vista does it.

Even recent PCI (not express) Nvidia cards are supported under Windows 7.

I wanted to buy an AGP graphic card to get a hardware support on H.264 playback.
Unfortunately for me, the ATI support for AGP Radeon HD isn't serious and there
are no AGP Nvidia since GeForce 8 : only PCI-E and PCI. Given PCI is worse than
AGP 2x brandwith, perhaps I should buy a new motherboard and a PCI-E card...
I see so much misinformation spread and it frustrates me sometimes. I'm only human so I suppose I have the right. Earlier today, I decided I was not going to post any longer partly because of this reason. It's difficult enough to help people with legitimate computer problems.

"No, the problem is really linked to ATI/AMD and their poor drivers for AGP card."

-Very excellent, if not perfection with drivers.

"There are performance issues only with GeForce 6200"

Completely false. I own an AGP one on another machine and it is perfect. It doesn't play latest games so well but that goes without saying. It is perfect for Aero, Windows 7 and older games. Not only that, it is a 6200A-LE.

"I wanted to buy an AGP graphic card to get a hardware support on H.264 playback.
Unfortunately for me, the ATI support for AGP Radeon HD isn't serious"

Yes, it very much is serious. I play 264 content with 15 percent CPU usage on my spec rig. If that's not serious, I don't know what is. 7.0 WEI both graphic scores.

"there are no AGP Nvidia since GeForce 8"

-False again. Download the normal driver from NVIDIA's site and install.

There is further misinformation in the post but I think we get the point here.
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24 Nov 2009   #115
Big Monstro

Windows 7
 
 

Hello torrentg,

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by torrentg View Post
I see so much misinformation spread and it frustrates me sometimes. I'm only human so I suppose I have the right. Earlier today, I decided I was not going to post any longer partly because of this reason. It's difficult enough to help people with legitimate computer problems.
Let's not get worked up over such a little thing !
So, I'm going to explain my point of view.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by torrentg View Post
"No, the problem is really linked to ATI/AMD and their poor drivers for AGP card."

-Very excellent, if not perfection with drivers.

[...]

"I wanted to buy an AGP graphic card to get a hardware support on H.264 playback. Unfortunately for me, the ATI support for AGP Radeon HD isn't serious"

Yes, it very much is serious. I play 264 content with 15 percent CPU usage on my spec rig. If that's not serious, I don't know what is. 7.0 WEI both graphic scores.
It's a fact that ATI doesn't provide a WHQL driver for AGP Radeon HD. In the official website, there is just an unsupported hotfix, see Catalyst AGP Hotfix - Radeon HD 4000 Radeon HD 3000 and Radeon HD 2000 Series AGP products . This hotfix is provided as is and there is no guarantee. For me, it isn't serious. If you have to provide tips and modified files in this topic to install AGP Radeon HD on Windows 7, you cannot congratulate ATI/AMD ! The problem seems worse with Windows 7 64-bit Edition.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by torrentg View Post
"There are performance issues only with GeForce 6200"

Completely false. I own an AGP one on another machine and it is perfect. It doesn't play latest games so well but that goes without saying. It is perfect for Aero, Windows 7 and older games. Not only that, it is a 6200A-LE.
I use myself Windows Aero under Seven with my pentium 4 2.4 GHz, 2 GB DDR-RAM and a Gigabyte GeForce 6200 and it runs pretty well (only bug: Flip 3D slows down when there are a lot of program, but it isn't important for me). However, some models seem to have problem with 7 (like Aero disabled) : I just browsed this forum and elsewhere to conclude that.


Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by torrentg View Post
"there are no AGP Nvidia since GeForce 8"

-False again. Download the normal driver from NVIDIA's site and install.
I know that NVIDIA's drivers still support GeForce 6100 and up. NVIDIA's drivers still support AGP and even PCI (in addition to PCI-E). But I mean that there is no AGP Nvidia GeForce 8 and up. The latest AGP Nvidia is GeForce 7950GT. If you know a manufacturer which sells AGP Geforce 8 or higher, thank you to cite it.
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24 Nov 2009   #116
Atrix425

Windows 7
 
 

Hi torrentg,

Thanks for posting this thread. I've installed the drivers per your tutorial as closely as I can. For some reason I when I run Aero my desktop and title bars are scrambled and Aero will disable after a short period. The card works fine when Aero is disabled, but I would like to be able to run it.

Is there something in the install process that I'm doing wrong and may be causing these issues?

I'm running the ASUS SILENT Radeon HD 3650. Any input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks...


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24 Nov 2009   #117
torrentg

7600.20510 x86
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Atrix425 View Post
Hi torrentg,

Thanks for posting this thread. I've installed the drivers per your tutorial as closely as I can. For some reason I when I run Aero my desktop and title bars are scrambled and Aero will disable after a short period. The card works fine when Aero is disabled, but I would like to be able to run it.

Is there something in the install process that I'm doing wrong and may be causing these issues?

I'm running the ASUS SILENT Radeon HD 3650. Any input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks...
Hi. It's probably an issue with your motherboard being old. Which one is it?
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24 Nov 2009   #118
Atrix425

Windows 7
 
 

It is a Foxconn 648FX7MF-S. It's an older model.

I installed the optional SIS update through windows updater. I haven't seen much of an improvement though. It may take a little longer for Aero to disable, but will disable eventually nonetheless.
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24 Nov 2009   #119
torrentg

7600.20510 x86
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Atrix425 View Post
It is a Foxconn 648FX7MF-S. It's an older model.

I installed the optional SIS update through windows updater. I haven't seen much of an improvement though. It may take a little longer for Aero to disable, but will disable eventually nonetheless.
What you can do is try to go to device manager. Look under system devices for CPU to AGP controller. Update the driver and when doing so, choose different ones that are already on your system. After, update the video driver each time. Eventually, one may work.
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25 Nov 2009   #120
b00bie

Windows7 Home Premium X64
 
 

Hi

Well I didn't have a lot of hair to begin with before trying to install the new card Any help you can give me would be greatly appreciated. ASUS P4S800D-X MOBO, Radeon 4760 card. Thanks in advance


Tom
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