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Windows 7: Stuttering Video playback with GT710 and GTX 1050TI

18 Dec 2018   #1
FrankZito

Windows 7, 64bit
 
 
Stuttering Video playback with GT710 and GTX 1050TI

hello,

I'm using Windows 7 pro 64bit and was glad that I could still find new hardware which was compatible with it.

Motherboard: Asus TUF Sabertooth X99 Intel X99 So.2011-3
CPU: Intel Core i7 6800K 6x 3.40GHz
Memory: 32GB DDR4-2400 DIMM
Power supply: 1050 Watt Enermax Platimax
Sound: ESI Juli@XTe
GPU: Asus GeForce GT 710

However I'm having a big problem. My main pupose using the PC as a powerfull media station doesn't seem to work.
I'm using an Acer P6200 DLP projector which has a maximum output resolution of 1024x768 (which I also configured in the Windows resolution output properties). So better than SD but not as good as HD. The aspect ratio is 4:3 tho so using a 1080x1920 on my 4:3 screen wouldn't make sense anyways.

A smooth playback for my videofiles doesn't seem to be possible.
Neither for my HD (HDTV recordings and commercial Blu-rays) nor DVD (regular commercial DVD9) files (lossless backup on harddrives, no rom drives involved).

There is always a stuttering from time to time or a slower playback for a few seconds.

It doesn't matter if I use MPC-HC, MPC-BE with/without madVR as a renderer
(not even this guide could fix the problem: Configuration: madVR)
I tried different Directshow or "NVIDIA CUVID", "DXVA2 (copy-back) or "DXVA2 native" as a hardware accelerator, use old GPU drivers or the latest drivers, use the VGA, DVI- or HDMI port, use different resolutions, refresh rates etc. etc.
Other than the standard 60 Hz I also tried 50Hz and 59 Hz as a refresh rate in the Nvidia control planel configuration but that didn't help either. My projector is meant to be for 60 Hz I doubt that it is a good idea to torture it with 24 Hz or weird stuff like that I doubt that it will solve the problem.

The symptom is always the same. It's stuttering every few minutes expecially in fast motions.

I first thought that it is the fault of my Asus GeForce GTX 1050 Ti which I ran with the HDMI port. so I used my right to exchange it and got my money back. I then purchased a ASUS GeForce GT 710 which still had a proper VGA port which was ideal back in the day for every projector I used but sadly I'm having the same stutter problems as before.

I ran MPC-HC with madVR and VLC Player on much slower and older PC's from 2007-2012 without any special configuration and never had any problems.

And now with my latest power PC it just doesn't work.

To make shure that this isn't a file problem I also tested the same files on an old Fujitsu EsPRiMO P7935 office PC (Core 2 Duo-Prozessor E8500 (2 Cores / 2
threads, 3.16 GHz, 6 MB, 1333 MHz with onboard graphic chip intel q45/q43 express chipset) with W7 32 bit.
All files are playing fine without stuttering even if I don't use madVR at all.

So the summary would be that a 10 year old office PC worth 20 bucks works better than my latest PC worth 1500 bucks. This is just ridiculous....

It doesn't make sense to me. What should I do?

My last thought is saying goodbye to Nvidia and exchanging the GT 710 for 2014 ATI Radeon but if that doesn't solve the problem I'm done. You guys are my last chance.

Thanks in advance for your help.
regards
-Frank


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19 Dec 2018   #2
wither 2

Windows 7 Pro SP1 64 bit
 
 

I don't know exactly what you did here-

"I'm using an Acer P6200 DLP projector which has a maximum output resolution of 1024x768 (which I also configured in the Windows resolution output properties)." Please explain. If you have low resolution video and try to force it to play at a higher resolution, you would get all kinds of bad effects, similar to trying to encode low resolution video to a higher resolution.

My understanding is that the output problems are as displayed by the projector. Do you get the same problems if you play them in the latest version of VLC Player on your system, with and without doing what you mentioned above.
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20 Dec 2018   #3
FrankZito

Windows 7, 64bit
 
 

All my videos have different resolutions depending on if they are sourced from DVD's, commercial Blu-rays or HDTV broadcasts.
The projector accepts all resolution as an input signal and downscales them automatically.
I tested VLC and all other common media players as well and it didn't help.

If this isn't a GPU problem how do I explain that all those files play fine with the same players, settings, projector and connection when I play them with my old EsPRiMO P7935 ?
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20 Dec 2018   #4
wither 2

Windows 7 Pro SP1 64 bit
 
 

This is what I don't understand- "which I also configured in the Windows resolution output properties"
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20 Dec 2018   #5
FrankZito

Windows 7, 64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by wither 2 View Post
This is what I don't understand- "which I also configured in the Windows resolution output properties"

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20 Dec 2018   #6
wither 2

Windows 7 Pro SP1 64 bit
 
 

Thanks.

I would set the DLP back to its default settings, even though I don't think it has any effect on playback on your computer. I'm curious why it's showing the DLP since it doesn't have a display.

I would also set the computer monitor settings to the default. No reason to change since it's 1080p by default.

One thing I should mention is that you shouldn't use a graphics driver more than about 2 years old for your GeForce cards. Back then, NVIDIA disabled the use of CUDA for Hardware Acceleration. That caused a lot of problems in most video software. As a result, NVIDIA changed it back in its drivers for all graphics cards starting with the 600 series and later. People with older cards (legacy), need to use older drivers to get hardware acceleration. Note that Radeon had done something similar, with the same effect, and changed the drivers for all cards after a certain series.



Run dxdiag.exe and select the 64 bit analysis. In the Display tab, are all three DirectX features enabled? Are any problems shown.

Also, you said your screen is 4:3. Which screen is that?
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21 Dec 2018   #7
FrankZito

Windows 7, 64bit
 
 

thanks for your help.
The DLP is connected so it is shown. I guess it's recognised as a second monitor which is quite normal.
With screen I was refering to a silver screen such as in cinema that's where the projector projects the image to. All my monitor setting are set to default. 1024x768 ist the default setting for the Acer P6200.
I'm using the latest graphic drivers.
Regarding the direct X drivers I'm shure all 3 are enabled but will check later when I get home to make shure
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21 Dec 2018   #8
FrankZito

Windows 7, 64bit
 
 

just checked. There are no DirectX problems
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21 Dec 2018   #9
wither 2

Windows 7 Pro SP1 64 bit
 
 

I have a projection screen also but it's for using a standalone projector to project slides (I made 1000's over the years).

I assume the three DirectX features are enabled since you didn't specifically say.

Go to the NVIDIA Control Panel. In the 3D settings, select Adjust image............... Set it to Use Advanced 3D settings. Click on Go there. In the Global Settings, find Vertical Sync. Set it to Adaptive and apply the change. In VLC Player (3.04), try playing one of the videos where you get problems during fast motion. Then try one where you get stuttering. Does that help?

If that doesn't help, would you upload one of your HDTV videos which displays the problems to something like Dropbox.com (free account size limit is 2 GB), one drive, etc.; share it, and provide a link to it here.
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02 Jan 2019   #10
FrankZito

Windows 7, 64bit
 
 

first of all happy new years to you.
I'm back at home and wasn't very successful with your suggestion.
I built in a new GPU, the ASUS R5230-SL-2GD3-L. I'll let you know how that one worked after testing it this weekend
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