Installing PCIe x16 3.0 GPU in PCIex16 2.0 Motherboard

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  1. Posts : 65
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    Installing PCIe x16 3.0 GPU in PCIex16 2.0 Motherboard


    Just purchased a new CPU MSI GeForce GTX 1650 D6 VENTUS XS for my aged Gigabyte mother board GA-990FXA-UD5 (rev. 3.0) Overview | Motherboard - GIGABYTE Global
    I'm getting the yellow exclamation mark for (PCI Device) in Device Manager. I can't get a driver to install for it. It won't pull it from the original Gigabyte software disk. I never had any problems getting it to install for the old GPU and if I remove the new GPU and put the old one back in the yellow exclamation mark disappears. So, the PCIe x16 2.0 driver is installed. I'm guessing that it's because the Gigabyte MB supports PCIe x16 2.0 and the new GPU is 3.0. I've always thought that PCIe x16 3.0 is backwards compatible with 2.0 however, no one ever talks about getting a 3.0 driver to install for a 2.0 slot.
    Does anyone have any ideas about where and how to get a 3.0 driver to run this new GPU?

    Keep in mind that I'm just guessing that this is the problem,............I'm all ears.

    Thanks,
    Bruce
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  2. Posts : 341
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    GeForce driver 472.12
    NVIDIA DRIVERS GeForce Game Ready Driver WHQL

    BTW, that is the same driver I use with the ASUS GeForce GTX 1060 for my aged Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3 (rev. 1.0) motherboard.

    The GPU will be limited to the PCIe 2.0 speed of the motherboard. Depending upon the game that might not even make a big difference.

    Installing PCIe x16 3.0 GPU in PCIex16 2.0 Motherboard-2022-01-21-12_43_52-nvidia-drivers-geforce-game-ready-driver-whql-mozilla-firefox.jpg
    Last edited by MisterEd; 21 Jan 2022 at 14:24.
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  3. Posts : 65
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    MisterEd said:
    GeForce driver 472.12
    NVIDIA DRIVERS GeForce Game Ready Driver WHQL

    BTW, that is the same driver I use with the ASUS GeForce GTX 1060 for my aged Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3 (rev. 1.0) motherboard.

    The GPU will be limited to the PCIe 2.0 speed of the motherboard. Depending upon the game that might not even make a big difference.

    Installing PCIe x16 3.0 GPU in PCIex16 2.0 Motherboard-2022-01-21-12_43_52-nvidia-drivers-geforce-game-ready-driver-whql-mozilla-firefox.jpg
    I already have GeForce driver 472.12 installed, but this is what I see in Device Manager. Installing PCIe x16 3.0 GPU in PCIex16 2.0 Motherboard-devicemanager.png
    It allowed me to install drivers for all the other ones and the yellow exclamation marks were resolved.Installing PCIe x16 3.0 GPU in PCIex16 2.0 Motherboard-etron-host-controller.png
    However, the last two (PCI Device) and (Serial Bus controller) refuse to let me install a driver as seen in the Device Manager photo above. This is what I see when I try.
    Installing PCIe x16 3.0 GPU in PCIex16 2.0 Motherboard-no-driver-found.png
    This is what Gigabyte told me, "
    Dear Valued Customer,

    There will be no specific driver for PCIe 3.0. As this unit was manufactured well before that was implemented. You can try to do a clean driver installation for the GPU to see if it can be detected afterwards."

    As far as I know PCIe x16 3.0 was released in 2010 and my board was made toward the end of 2012.

    I don't know what to do at this point, other than try to return it.
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  4. Posts : 341
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    I just realized you said you said you installed the software from the DVD that came with your motherboard. My experience has shown that the software on these DVDs is many times out of date. Have you gone to the Gigabyte website and installed the newest drivers? You should start with the chipset driver. Also, check to see if your BIOS is up to date.

    GA-990FXA-UD5 (rev. 3.0)
    GA-990FXA-UD5 (rev. 3.0) Support | Motherboard - GIGABYTE Global
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  5. Posts : 65
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    MisterEd said:
    I just realized you said you said you installed the software from the DVD that came with your motherboard. My experience has shown that the software on these DVDs is many times out of date. Have you gone to the Gigabyte website and installed the newest drivers? You should start with the chipset driver. Also, check to see if your BIOS is up to date.

    GA-990FXA-UD5 (rev. 3.0)
    GA-990FXA-UD5 (rev. 3.0) Support | Motherboard - GIGABYTE Global
    Just tried all the newest drivers from the Gigabyte site last night, most were the same, a couple were one year newer.........No change.
    The card is working, but I'm still having to deal with screen tearing (while watching videos, not even playing any games) even though this card has G-sync. It could be a bottleneck thing, but I'll never know if i can't get those two issues resolved in Device Manager.
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  6. Posts : 1,835
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    If your graphics works (and based upon the resolution of your screenshot it seems to) and you aren't missing any hardware components then I wouldn't worry about the exclamation mark. The resolution of of that screenshot isn't built into 7 natively. FYI there is no driver for a pci-x 3.0 device compatibility because that is a hardware compatibility not software. That would be like trying to use usb 2.0 ports as usb 3.0. However as you said it is backwards compatible you just don't get the same bandwidth just like using a usb 3.0 drive in a 2.0 port.
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  7. Posts : 341
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    What monitor and resolution are you using?

    I am using a ASUS VE228H monitor which is 1080p with a 60Hz refresh rate.

    Your motherboard has two USB controllers:
    1. From chipset (USB 2.0)
    2. From 2 x Eltron chips (USB 3.0)

    Do you have these drivers installed?
    • MD Chipset Driver (include chipset \ sata raid driver) [13.125] 2014/01/17
    • Etron USB 3.0 Driver [1.0.0.118] 2014/01/09

    I have a Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3 (1.0). It uses the same drivers as your motherboard. As you can see below everthing is working in both Windows 10 and Windows 7.

    Installing PCIe x16 3.0 GPU in PCIex16 2.0 Motherboard-devicemanager.jpg
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  8. Posts : 65
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    MisterEd said:
    What monitor and resolution are you using?

    I am using a ASUS VE228H monitor which is 1080p with a 60Hz refresh rate.

    Your motherboard has two USB controllers:
    1. From chipset (USB 2.0)
    2. From 2 x Eltron chips (USB 3.0)

    Do you have these drivers installed?
    • MD Chipset Driver (include chipset \ sata raid driver) [13.125] 2014/01/17
    • Etron USB 3.0 Driver [1.0.0.118] 2014/01/09

    I have a Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3 (1.0). It uses the same drivers as your motherboard. As you can see below everthing is working in both Windows 10 and Windows 7.

    Installing PCIe x16 3.0 GPU in PCIex16 2.0 Motherboard-devicemanager.jpg
    My monitor is Asus ProArt PA27CV and resolution is 3840 x 2160

    I have the Etron USB 3.0 driver installed.
    Installing PCIe x16 3.0 GPU in PCIex16 2.0 Motherboard-etron-driver.png

    I don't know where in Device Manager to check the driver for USB 2.0.

    I installed the AHCI driver, "AMD SATA AHCI Driver (Preinstall driver, press F6 during Windows* setup to read from floppy)" Version [1.2.1.0349] during the OS install.
    Installing PCIe x16 3.0 GPU in PCIex16 2.0 Motherboard-amd-sata-controller.png

    I have the Chipset driver installed, but don't know where to find it listed in Device Manager?

    What's the difference between these two drivers? They both say SATA Raid. I do not have the Preinstall one installed that is highlighted in the photo.
    Installing PCIe x16 3.0 GPU in PCIex16 2.0 Motherboard-amd-chipset.pngInstalling PCIe x16 3.0 GPU in PCIex16 2.0 Motherboard-amd-sata-raid.png
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  9. Posts : 341
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    Xp4me said:
    My monitor is Asus ProArt PA27CV and resolution is 3840 x 2160

    I have the Etron USB 3.0 driver installed.
    I don't know where in Device Manager to check the driver for USB 2.0.
    I installed the AHCI driver, "AMD SATA AHCI Driver (Preinstall driver, press F6 during Windows* setup to read from floppy)" Version [1.2.1.0349] during the OS install.

    I have the Chipset driver installed, but don't know where to find it listed in Device Manager?

    What's the difference between these two drivers? They both say SATA Raid. I do not have the Preinstall one installed that is highlighted in the photo.
    The motherboard chipset driver contains support for USB 2.0. Since the chipset only had support for USB 2.0 the Eltron chips were added to the motherboard for USB 3.0.

    The problem with tearing may be because you are using a 4K monitor. Your computer may just be too slow to support such a high resolution. Trying reducing the resolution and refresh rate to see if that works better.

    My computer with a motherboard similar to yours has a slightly faster GTX1060 GPU. It has a 21-inch 1920x1080p @60Hz monitor. I have no problems with it.
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  10. Posts : 17
    Windows 7 Professional x64
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    This is a Nvida Card problem because Windows 7 does not support the USB-C. I would like to find a driver too. Just to make it look good. I have them disabled for now.

    Installing PCIe x16 3.0 GPU in PCIex16 2.0 Motherboard-capture.jpg
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