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Windows 7: Need help on buying a new graphic card!!

06 Jan 2010   #41
Fumz

7 Ultimate x64
 
 

I found another series of benches that might help the OP decide. Here's the 5870 on a few cores... not many, but enough to get a better idea.

At 1280, obviously, the i7's just kick butt with the 5870, but as res increases we can see things even out a bit. Granted, they didn't test a Q6600 (those are hard to find these days), but I think we can safely assume its results to be somewhat similar to a Core 2 Duo at 2.75GHz... not exactly the same, but very close.

May Power Be with You: Find the Best CPU for a Single ATI Radeon HD 5870 and ATI Radeon HD 5870 CrossFireX Configuration (page 6) - X-bit labs

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06 Jan 2010   #42
ThePizzaMan

Windows 7 Ulitimate Beta 32 Bit, Windows Vista 32 Bit, Ubuntu 9.10 32 Bit
 
 

ok and a q6600 and a q6700 are both slower than a phenom II 940, so were talking at least 30 to 50+ fps difference... so there is some bottleneck like i thought
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07 Jan 2010   #43
Fumz

7 Ultimate x64
 
 

My only objection was to the suggestion that the OP needed to get a new cpu because his Q6600 wasn't strong enough and would bottleneck the card.

What you're calling a bottleneck I refer to as cpu scaling. Of course a stronger cpu is going to push the card better... but that was never in dispute.

Bottlenecking is a difficult charge to make stick when we can see that at 1920x1200, HQ, 16xAF and 8xAA the fps difference between the slowest core and the fastest is negligible: 46fps vs 51fps in World in Conflict; 109 vs 115 in UT3; 81 vs 115 in CoD5; 82 vs 115 in Left 4 Dead... etc etc.

I'm only saying this so the OP knows he doesn't "need" to get a new cpu. Imo, sweet as i7 may be, the gains in performance don't justify the cost... but to each his own.
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07 Jan 2010   #44
Dom

Windows Seven Ultimate
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Fumz View Post
It's not so much that I say so, it's that the results of the benchmarks say so; however, I could be way off base here, so if you've read something different, I'd like to read it too... as I'm sure would everyone else.

... can you throw up a link that demonstrates this bottleneck so I can educate myself?
Hmm, benchmarks?
I've read here that an overclocked i7 (3.75 ghz) still bottlenecks a few games with the 5870.
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07 Jan 2010   #45
Fumz

7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Lil' Domii View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Fumz View Post
It's not so much that I say so, it's that the results of the benchmarks say so; however, I could be way off base here, so if you've read something different, I'd like to read it too... as I'm sure would everyone else.

... can you throw up a link that demonstrates this bottleneck so I can educate myself?
Hmm, benchmarks?
I've read here that an overclocked i7 (3.75 ghz) still bottlenecks a few games with the 5870.
lol... yes, running at 2560x1600 you may experience a cpu bottleneck in certain games, but since the OP is currently running an 8600GT, I'm pretty sure we don't have to worry about 2560. Good find though... thanks for the link.
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07 Jan 2010   #46
Dom

Windows Seven Ultimate
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Fumz View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Lil' Domii View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Fumz View Post
It's not so much that I say so, it's that the results of the benchmarks say so; however, I could be way off base here, so if you've read something different, I'd like to read it too... as I'm sure would everyone else.

... can you throw up a link that demonstrates this bottleneck so I can educate myself?
Hmm, benchmarks?
I've read here that an overclocked i7 (3.75 ghz) still bottlenecks a few games with the 5870.
lol... yes, running at 2560x1600 you may experience a cpu bottleneck in certain games, but since the OP is currently running an 8600GT, I'm pretty sure we don't have to worry about 2560. Good find though... thanks for the link.
That is the first place i look for benchmarks, and remembered something about bottlenecking, so i thought it would be useful in this thread.
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07 Jan 2010   #47
ThePizzaMan

Windows 7 Ulitimate Beta 32 Bit, Windows Vista 32 Bit, Ubuntu 9.10 32 Bit
 
 

true not enough to matter except to me haha
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09 Jan 2010   #48
Diabolical

Window 7 Home premium 64 bit
 
 
^^

hmm, ok well i made up my mind, ama get the ATI 4890, buy a new desktop case, and buy a 650 watt power supply,
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09 Jan 2010   #49
Dom

Windows Seven Ultimate
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Diabolical View Post
hmm, ok well i made up my mind, ama get the ATI 4890, buy a new desktop case, and buy a 650 watt power supply,
Very glad you made up your mind
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09 Jan 2010   #50
ThePizzaMan

Windows 7 Ulitimate Beta 32 Bit, Windows Vista 32 Bit, Ubuntu 9.10 32 Bit
 
 

good choice enjoy that card
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