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Windows 7: Graphics Card Question

30 Mar 2009   #1
96accord

Windows 7 Professional x64
 
 
Graphics Card Question

I asked this on the Vista Forums but asking over here too.

This will be for my Vista Ultimate x64 Machine (as of right now)

Question for all of you:

ATi Radeon X1900GT (512MB) or eVGA 9800GT (512MB) - Which is better?

I currently have the ATi card but found the 9800GT and a 9800GTX on ebay. Wanted to know if I would notice any graphic enhancements...

Currently I play Battlefield 2 but want to get into more games down the road after I upgrade some other parts of my system (Mobo & Ram).

Any help/advice is appreciated

Thanks

-Jeff


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31 Mar 2009   #2
johngalt

 

I'd do some research on the cards and their capabilities. FWIW, IIRC, ATI was making the 4830 to compete with the 9800GT....

You'll need to find a good review site and figure out the differences.

My personal opinion - nVidia FTW :P But I am biased, I know....
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02 Apr 2009   #3
itznfb

Windows 7 x86 build 7077
 
 

those cards are not even in the same league. the 9800GT would destroy any ATI card made before the 3000HD series.
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02 Apr 2009   #4
TechOutsider

Windows XP
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by itznfb View Post
those cards are not even in the same league. the 9800GT would destroy any ATI card made before the 3000HD series.
Actually, your statement is completely incorrect. Generations of graphics card don't all supersede one another.

The X1900 series will beat the HD2k, some of the 3k and even 4k series in benchmarks.

According to http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=234381

"X1950 is more in the league of HD 3670 or something, within that price range the bare minimum you should be looking for is the HD 3870/4670 series and the 4870 is double the performance of the 3870/4670"
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02 Apr 2009   #5
itznfb

Windows 7 x86 build 7077
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by TechOutsider View Post
Actually, your statement is completely incorrect. Generations of graphics card don't all supersede one another.

The X1900 series will beat the HD2k, some of the 3k and even 4k series in benchmarks.

According to Last-gen graphics card $? - Wilders Security Forums

"X1950 is more in the league of HD 3670 or something, within that price range the bare minimum you should be looking for is the HD 3870/4670 series and the 4870 is double the performance of the 3870/4670"
wow, my first post and some know it all who knows nothing is already picking an etard battle with me. awesome.

TechOutsider, you have no clue what you're talking about.

the x1900GT is comparable to a nvidia 7900GT. as seen here:
PowerColor X1900 GT: Worthy Rival to GeForce 7900 GT? (page 19) - X-bit labs

not even close to running with current 2 gens of gfx cards from either manufacturer.
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02 Apr 2009   #6
kpo6969

 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by johngalt View Post
I'd do some research on the cards and their capabilities. FWIW, IIRC, ATI was making the 4830 to compete with the 9800GT....

You'll need to find a good review site and figure out the differences.

My personal opinion - nVidia FTW :P But I am biased, I know....

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by TechOutsider View Post
Actually, your statement is completely incorrect. Generations of graphics card don't all supersede one another.

The X1900 series will beat the HD2k, some of the 3k and even 4k series in benchmarks.

According to Last-gen graphics card $? - Wilders Security Forums

"X1950 is more in the league of HD 3670 or something, within that price range the bare minimum you should be looking for is the HD 3870/4670 series and the 4870 is double the performance of the 3870/4670"
Your statement repectfully, is generalistic and for the most part baseless.
To the OP, have a look at this link:

Conclusion - Review Tom's Hardware : Best Graphics Cards For The Money: March '09

Bear in mind it can change (sometimes drastically) from month to month.
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02 Apr 2009   #7
johngalt

 

Right, Chappy - I was just saying that the comparison of the 1900 and the 9800 is not a truly fair comparison....
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02 Apr 2009   #8
kpo6969

 
 

Previous post edited.
What is a Chappy? I referenced wikki
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02 Apr 2009   #9
TechOutsider

Windows XP
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by itznfb View Post
wow, my first post and some know it all who knows nothing is already picking an etard battle with me. awesome.

TechOutsider, you have no clue what you're talking about.

the x1900GT is comparable to a nvidia 7900GT. as seen here:
PowerColor X1900 GT: Worthy Rival to GeForce 7900 GT? (page 19) - X-bit labs

not even close to running with current 2 gens of gfx cards from either manufacturer.
Not to flame, however let's put it this way. You are trying to say each successive generation of graphics card is better than the last generation. That is what I thought as well. Only problem is when I look at x1950 prices, it was about 200 to 300. I thought, "no way!" It's a last-gen card! My HD2400 should beat it's .... in benchmarks (it's the next generation, iteration, and therefore an improvement and refinement).

Sadly, no. Product ranges overlap each other. I inquired at the Wilder Security Forums and the answer I posted above is based off another person's answer.

Just look at the HD2400 and x1950. No comparison, price-wise. Google Shopping lists the HD2400 at around 50 to 100 bucks.

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Back to the original question. x1900GT and a 9800GT.

Well, I would go with the 9800 GT; it uses DX10 and SM4.0. The x1900GT on the other hand draws in DX9 and SM3.0. It's always nice to future proof yourself. As my original post stated, the x1950, an upgraded x1900, is ~HD3760. The 3 series was made to compete with the 9 series. So let's work backwards. We can easily match the 3870x2 with the 9800GX2. The 3870 with the 9800GT.

Thus, x1900GT > 9800 GT
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02 Apr 2009   #10
johngalt

 

No need to edit - leave your comment in there, my original post was vague.

And as for Chappy, well, I got confused as to *who* I was referring / replying to.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by TechOutsider View Post
Not to flame, however let's put it this way. You are trying to say each successive generation of graphics card is better than the last generation. That is what I thought as well. Only problem is when I look at x1950 prices, it was about 200 to 300. I thought, "no way!" It's a last-gen card! My HD2400 should beat it's .... in benchmarks (it's the next generation, iteration, and therefore an improvement and refinement).

Sadly, no. Product ranges overlap each other. I inquired at the Wilder Security Forums and the answer I posted above is based off another person's answer.

Just look at the HD2400 and x1950. No comparison, price-wise. Google Shopping lists the HD2400 at around 50 to 100 bucks.
Correct - even when the 9000 series of nVidias were out, the 8800GTX was still the monster card to have - for the most part.

Now, I'll bet even money that hte 4870 will blow the pants off that x1900, jsut as I know my GTX260 will outperform most 9800 series cards as well.
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