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Windows 7: LCD Native Resolution, EDID and 59Hz issues

12 Jun 2009   #11
baarod

El Capitan / Windows 10
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by donpsycho View Post
These are my EDID Information. i have a 23" 1920x1080 Monitor hooked up to a ati 4830 via hdmi. crysis and far cry 2 only work with dx9 for me but world in conlfict , company of heros and battleforge work fine with dx10
That EDID is perfectly formed. What specific issues are you encountering? Is it just that Windows 7 is showing 59Hz instead of 60? That's known and unless it's causing issues, it can be ignored. Exact 1080p is at 59.94Hz and Windows is just rounding down...


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12 Jun 2009   #12
donpsycho

Win 7
 
 

the problem is the windows vista/7 desktop and these two directx 10 games dont use the full monitor when i choos a resolution higher than 1440x900 the image gets scaled down to 1440x900 and i have black borders surrounding the displayed content... exept in crysis there i get an out of range error when i choose 1920x1080 but every other resolution results in 1440x900.

with the desktop it is no problem i just use the ccc and use overscan. But it dont seem to apply to the games.

world in conflict and coh have the same issu unless i activate 1080p60 in the hdtv support...

and i dont know how it corresponds with the problem but when ich run far cry 2 in dx9 i can choos 50 59 and 60 herz in dx10 only 50 and 60

the wierd thing is that the error only occurs with dx10. when i start the games in dx9 there is no problem selecting 1920x1080.
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13 Jun 2009   #13
Waffleicious

XP Pro SP3 / Windows 7 RC
 
 

omg this is the exact problem im having! It made Win7 practically unusable and i had to fux with 3 different cable types to even get my resolution to fill the screen

In XP, you could manually set the rate in dxdiag, but the option is unavailable in Win7.

Any help would be GREATLY appreciated!
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24 Aug 2009   #14
DHAmoKK

Windows 7 RC x64
 
 

Hello
I already postet part of the EDID informations in the following thread:
59Hz

The main issue is, that some games are at a fixed resolution of e.g. 1024x768@59Hz and are centered in the middle of the screen while everything around it is black. The reported resolution from my monitor is 1920x1200?! I can reproduce that effect with my desktop: Setting it to 1024x768@59Hz = 1920x1200 real and desktop centered. Setting it to 1024x768@60Hz (here 60Hz work fine!) = 1024x768 real and I can scale the image with my monitor osd.

But here is the complete one, if you prefer the .dat-file, you'll find it here.
Quote:
Monitor
Model name............... 24WMGX3
Manufacturer............. NEC
Plug and Play ID......... NEC6752
Serial number............ 8X103133TB
Manufacture date......... 2008, ISO week 43
-------------------------
EDID revision............ 1.3
Input signal type........ Digital
Color bit depth.......... Undefined
Display type............. RGB color
Screen size.............. 520 x 320 mm (24,0 in)
Power management......... Standby, Suspend, Active off/sleep
Extension blocs.......... None
-------------------------
DDC/CI................... Supported
MCCS revison............. 2.1
Display technology....... TFT
Controller............... Genesis 0x4A
Firmware revision........ Not supported
Active power on time..... Not supported
Current frequency........ 16769,79kHz, 220,18Hz

Color characteristics
Default color space...... Non-sRGB
Display gamma............ 2,20
Red chromaticity......... Rx 0,653 - Ry 0,337
Green chromaticity....... Gx 0,295 - Gy 0,607
Blue chromaticity........ Bx 0,144 - By 0,075
White point (default).... Wx 0,313 - Wy 0,329
Additional descriptors... None

Timing characteristics
Horizontal scan range.... 31-83kHz
Vertical scan range...... 49-76Hz
Video bandwidth.......... 170MHz
CVT standard............. Not supported
GTF standard............. Not supported
Additional descriptors... None
Preferred timing......... Yes
Native/preferred timing.. 1920x1200p at 60Hz (16:10)
Modeline............... "1920x1200" 154,000 1920 1968 2000 2080 1200 1203 1209 1235 +hsync -vsync

Standard timings supported
720 x 400p at 70Hz - IBM VGA
640 x 480p at 60Hz - IBM VGA
640 x 480p at 67Hz - Apple Mac II
640 x 480p at 72Hz - VESA
640 x 480p at 75Hz - VESA
800 x 600p at 56Hz - VESA
800 x 600p at 60Hz - VESA
800 x 600p at 72Hz - VESA
800 x 600p at 75Hz - VESA
832 x 624p at 75Hz - Apple Mac II
1024 x 768p at 60Hz - VESA
1024 x 768p at 70Hz - VESA
1024 x 768p at 75Hz - VESA
1280 x 1024p at 75Hz - VESA
1152 x 870p at 75Hz - Apple Mac II
1152 x 864p at 75Hz - VESA STD
1280 x 1024p at 60Hz - VESA STD
1600 x 1200p at 60Hz - VESA STD
1280 x 960p at 60Hz - VESA STD
1440 x 900p at 60Hz - VESA STD
1400 x 1050p at 60Hz - VESA STD
1680 x 1050p at 60Hz - VESA STD
1920 x 1200p at 60Hz - VESA STD

Report information
Date generated........... 24.08.2009
Software revision........ 2.30.0.797
Operating system......... 6.1.7100.2

Raw data
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24 Aug 2009   #15
Duesco

Windows 7 Ultimate x86
 
 

Here's mine, seems I'm at 59.9 XD It does bug me though...

Quote:
Monitor
Model name............... Acer X193W+
Manufacturer............. Acer
Plug and Play ID......... ACR0014
Serial number............ LBE090263610
Manufacture date......... 2008, ISO week 42
-------------------------
EDID revision............ 1.3
Input signal type........ Digital
Color bit depth.......... Undefined
Display type............. RGB color
Screen size.............. 410 x 260 mm (19.1 in)
Power management......... Active off/sleep
Extension blocs.......... None
-------------------------
DDC/CI................... Supported
MCCS revison............. 2.0
Display technology....... TFT
Controller............... Mstar 0x0
Firmware revision........ 0.1
Firmware flags........... 0x800078
Active power on time..... 1701 hours
Current frequency........ 16711.81kHz, 59.90Hz

Color characteristics
Default color space...... sRGB
Display gamma............ 2.20
Red chromaticity......... Rx 0.644 - Ry 0.348
Green chromaticity....... Gx 0.286 - Gy 0.603
Blue chromaticity........ Bx 0.143 - By 0.070
White point (default).... Wx 0.313 - Wy 0.329
Additional descriptors... None

Timing characteristics
Horizontal scan range.... 30-82kHz
Vertical scan range...... 56-76Hz
Video bandwidth.......... 160MHz
CVT standard............. Not supported
GTF standard............. Not supported
Additional descriptors... None
Preferred timing......... Yes
Native/preferred timing.. 1680x1050p at 60Hz (16:10)
Modeline............... "1680x1050" 146.250 1680 1784 1960 2240 1050 1053 1059 1089 -hsync +vsync

Standard timings supported
720 x 400p at 70Hz - IBM VGA
640 x 480p at 60Hz - IBM VGA
640 x 480p at 67Hz - Apple Mac II
640 x 480p at 72Hz - VESA
640 x 480p at 75Hz - VESA
800 x 600p at 56Hz - VESA
800 x 600p at 60Hz - VESA
800 x 600p at 72Hz - VESA
800 x 600p at 75Hz - VESA
832 x 624p at 75Hz - Apple Mac II
1024 x 768p at 60Hz - VESA
1024 x 768p at 70Hz - VESA
1024 x 768p at 75Hz - VESA
1280 x 1024p at 75Hz - VESA
1280 x 1024p at 60Hz - VESA STD
1280 x 960p at 60Hz - VESA STD
1152 x 864p at 75Hz - VESA STD
1440 x 900p at 60Hz - VESA STD
1440 x 900p at 75Hz - VESA STD
1680 x 1050p at 60Hz - VESA STD
1280 x 720p at 60Hz - VESA STD
1600 x 1200p at 60Hz - VESA STD

Report information
Date generated........... 8/24/2009
Software revision........ 2.30.0.797
Operating system......... 6.1.7600.2

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09 Sep 2009   #16
mejobloggs

Win 7 RC
 
 

I just bought a 2433bw (1920x1200) and it's saying my native res is 1280x1024, and I can't get it any higher than 1280x1024

I added in a custom res in nvidia drivers, and it got to 1920x1080, but for 1920x1200 it said it wasn't supported

It won't let me turn off scaling either

Quote:
Monitor
Model name............... SyncMaster
Manufacturer............. Samsung
Plug and Play ID......... SAM0161
Serial number............ n/a
Manufacture date......... 2004, ISO week 20
-------------------------
EDID revision............ 1.3
Input signal type........ Digital
Color bit depth.......... Undefined
Display type............. RGB color
Screen size.............. 340 x 270 mm (17.1 in)
Power management......... Active off/sleep
Extension blocs.......... None
-------------------------
DDC/CI................... Supported
MCCS revison............. 2.0
Display technology....... TFT
Controller............... Mstar 0x1000
Firmware revision........ 0.1
Firmware flags........... 0x1
Active power on time..... Not supported
Current frequency........ Not supported

Color characteristics
Default color space...... Non-sRGB
Display gamma............ 2.20
Red chromaticity......... Rx 0.640 - Ry 0.330
Green chromaticity....... Gx 0.300 - Gy 0.600
Blue chromaticity........ Bx 0.150 - By 0.060
White point (default).... Wx 0.313 - Wy 0.329
Additional descriptors... None

Timing characteristics
Horizontal scan range.... 30-81kHz
Vertical scan range...... 56-75Hz
Video bandwidth.......... 140MHz
CVT standard............. Not supported
GTF standard............. Not supported
Additional descriptors... None
Preferred timing......... Yes
Native/preferred timing.. 1024x768p at 60Hz (5:4)
Modeline............... "1024x768" 65.000 1024 1048 1184 1344 768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync
Detailed timing #1....... 1280x1024p at 60Hz (5:4)
Modeline............... "1280x1024" 108.000 1280 1328 1440 1688 1024 1025 1028 1066 +hsync +vsync

Standard timings supported
720 x 400p at 70Hz - IBM VGA
640 x 480p at 60Hz - IBM VGA
640 x 480p at 67Hz - Apple Mac II
640 x 480p at 72Hz - VESA
640 x 480p at 75Hz - VESA
800 x 600p at 56Hz - VESA
800 x 600p at 60Hz - VESA
800 x 600p at 72Hz - VESA
800 x 600p at 75Hz - VESA
832 x 624p at 75Hz - Apple Mac II
1024 x 768p at 60Hz - VESA
1024 x 768p at 70Hz - VESA
1024 x 768p at 75Hz - VESA
1280 x 1024p at 75Hz - VESA
1280 x 1024p at 60Hz - VESA STD

Report information
Date generated........... 9/09/2009
Software revision........ 2.30.0.797
Operating system......... 6.1.7600.2

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Update... I've just installed the manufacturer drivers and Microsoft drivers for my monitor, and now MonInfo doesn't show a 'Real time' option, only a Registry one. The registry one is the same as above.... even though I've installed the drivers
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09 Jan 2010   #17
Soviet

Windows 7 64bit
 
 

Please tell me that there is a solution to this problem...

I would post my MonInfo, but I don't have my moniotr in "Display IDs", just four [Sample]s with names like ABC.

If there's no soluiton yet, I swear, I'm gonna cut myself :P.
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27 Jan 2010   #18
wa4cbg

Windows 7 64 Bit
 
 
Monitor EDID corrupt - Now Win7 blurry

Baarod,

I still have a problem after Win 7 stopped recognizing my Viewsonic VP950B monitor. During a reboot something happened and I would imagine that the EDID in the monitor got corrupted. (sent the monitor back for repair.

Win 7 does recognize another VP950b that I have here but now my screen is a bit fuzzy and I cannot make cleartype fonts look good. I am at the native screen resolution, etc. but it seems that something is just not as it appears.

Your post got me thinking that maybe there is a corruption in the cahed EDID info?

Any ideas?
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16 Mar 2010   #19
cocymsc

Windows 7
 
 
problem

Hi,

Slightly off topic, but it is EDID related, n u guys seem to know what your on about n i desperately want help so here goes.

Basically there is a known problem with Nvidia cards to Philips TVs.

What happens is when I connect through HDMI the TV flashes up 'no video signal' or 'unsupported video format'.I've been through allsorts like length or quality of cable, changing drivers, resolutions, refresh rates, tinkering with Nvidia control things, nothing.

Looked on here and got a resolution:

GTX280 and HDMI to DVI problems - NVIDIA Forums

HOWEVER, since upgrading drivers to windows 7 version, things have changed and its back.

The problem is the EDID of the TV as a monitor, and in older drivers there was a .inf fix to override it, but in newer drivers for Nvidia the layout on the .inf is different so this fails. I would happily keep the old driver, but it prevents my ability to play blurays which is a big part of my computer (media center).

Old layout of .inf

[nv_SoftwareDeviceSettings_GT2x]
HKR,, InstalledDisplayDrivers, %REG_MULTI_SZ%, "nvd3dumx,nvd3dum"
HKR,, UserModeDriverName, %REG_MULTI_SZ%, "nvd3dumx.dll"
HKR,, UserModeDriverNameWoW, %REG_MULTI_SZ%, "nvd3dum.dll"
HKR,, UserModeDriverGUID, %REG_SZ%, "{9A516B97-E7C1-451B-9165-C5035994A3F5}"
HKR,, VgaCompatible, %REG_DWORD%, 0
HKLM,"Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run",NvSvc,,"RUNDLL32.EXE %11%\nvsvc64.dll,nvsvcStart"
HKR,, MultiFunctionSupported, %REG_DWORD%, 1
HKR,, NV_R&T, %REG_MULTI_SZ%, "R&T0000=*,*,*,*,*,IBM251F.VSC2F0C.VSC3411.VSC3E19.CMO0506,
HDLK"
HKR,, NV_R&T, %REG_SZ_APPEND%, "R&T0001=1920,1080,*,30,*,CRTX,OEM,7425,2200,48,56,562,2,5,
++I"
HKR,, NV_R&T, %REG_SZ_APPEND%, "R&T0002=1920,1080,*,60,*,BNQ766A,OEM,13850,2080,48,32,1111
,3,5,+-"
HKR,, NV_R&T, %REG_SZ_APPEND%, "R&T0003=1920,1200,*,60,*,BNQ766A,OEM,15399,2080,48,32,1235
,3,6,+-"
HKR,, NV_R&T, %REG_SZ_APPEND%, "R&T0004=1920,1200,*,60,009D,*,OEM,15399,2080,48,32,1235,3,
6,+-"
HKR,, RMDisableInst2Sys, %REG_DWORD%, 1
HKR,, RMCacheLoc, %REG_DWORD%, 0
HKR,, PowerMizerEnable, %REG_DWORD%, 0
HKR,, PowerMizerLevel, %REG_DWORD%, 0
HKR,, PowerMizerLevelAC, %REG_DWORD%, 0
HKR,, ModesetBlankDelay, %REG_DWORD%, 150
HKR,, OverrideEdidFlags0, %REG_BINARY%, 41,0C,00,00,00,00,FF,FF,04,00,00,00,7E,01,00
HKLM,"SOFTWARE\Microsoft\TMM",UseIViewHelper,%REG_DWORD%, 1

The fix line is in bold, and the numbers are the EDID code of my tv.

new drivers layout:

HKR,,OverlaySharpness
HKR,,Override1400x1050
HKR,,OverrideDisRM4High
HKR,,OverrideEdidFlags0
HKR,,OverrideEdidFlags1
HKR,,OverrideEdidFlags2
HKR,,OverrideEdidFlags3
HKR,,OverrideEdidFlags4
HKR,,OverrideSBIOSDevs
HKR,,PMClocksHighRes

Any ideas guys?

Cheers
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05 Jun 2010   #20
Kaikon

Windows 7 64-bit
 
 

Hi!

First of all, sorry to resurrect an old thread, but I'm having some Hz-problems.
Yesterday I changed my gfxcard from Radeon HD 4890 to a Radeon HD 5850 and now I'm unable to change Hz on my monitor. CCC (Catalyst control center) tells me that the maximum allowed refreshrate is 60Hz, but I've used 100Hz on this monitor when I had the 4890-card. The monitor is a CRT 19" from shg.dk. The 'name' of the monitor is "shg Computers" (k-900 according to MonInfo).

Information from MonInfo
Code:
Monitor
  Model name............... K-900
  Windows description...... Generic PnP Monitor 
  Manufacturer............. KTC
  Plug and Play ID......... KTC1900
  Data string.............. K T C Monitor Made In China
  Serial number............ n/a
  Manufacture date......... 2004, ISO week 29
  -------------------------
  EDID revision............ 1.0
  Input signal type........ Analog 0.700,0.300 (1.0V p-p)
  Sync input support....... Separate
  Display type............. RGB color
  Screen size.............. 360 x 270 mm (17,7 in)
  Power management......... Standby, Suspend, Active off/sleep
  Extension blocs.......... None
  -------------------------
  DDC/CI................... n/a

Color characteristics
  Default color space...... Non-sRGB
  Display gamma............ 2,53
  Red chromaticity......... Rx 0,625 - Ry 0,340
  Green chromaticity....... Gx 0,310 - Gy 0,529
  Blue chromaticity........ Bx 0,150 - By 0,063
  White point (default).... Wx 0,281 - Wy 0,311
  Additional descriptors... None

Timing characteristics
  Range limits............. Not available
  GTF standard............. Not supported
  Additional descriptors... None
  Preferred timing......... No

Standard timings supported
     720 x  400p at  70Hz - IBM VGA
     640 x  480p at  60Hz - IBM VGA
     640 x  480p at  75Hz - VESA
     800 x  600p at  75Hz - VESA
    1024 x  768p at  60Hz - VESA
    1024 x  768p at  70Hz - VESA
    1024 x  768p at  75Hz - VESA
    1280 x 1024p at  75Hz - VESA
    1152 x  870p at  75Hz - Apple Mac II
     640 x  480p at  85Hz - Manufacturer
     800 x  600p at  85Hz - Manufacturer
    1024 x  768p at  85Hz - Manufacturer
    1280 x 1024p at  85Hz - Manufacturer
    1600 x 1200p at  75Hz - Manufacturer
     800 x  600p at  85Hz - VESA STD
    1024 x  768p at  85Hz - VESA STD
     800 x  600p at 100Hz - VESA STD
    1024 x  768p at 100Hz - VESA STD
    1280 x 1024p at  85Hz - VESA STD
    1600 x 1200p at  60Hz - VESA STD
    1600 x 1200p at  70Hz - VESA STD
    1600 x 1200p at  75Hz - VESA STD

Report information
  Date generated........... 2010-06-05
  Software revision........ 2.51.0.853
  Operating system......... 6.1.7600.2

Raw data
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  10,48,4F,A4,4F,FF,45,59,61,59,45,68,61,68,81,99,A9,40,A9,4A,A9,4F,00,00,00,FC,00,4B,2D,39,30,30,
  0A,20,20,20,20,20,20,20,00,00,00,FE,00,4B,20,54,20,43,0A,20,20,20,20,20,20,20,00,00,00,FE,00,4D,
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Snapshot from CCC:



So, if anyone has any idea on how to "remove" the hertz-limit enforced by CCC that'd be great, since I get headaches when having only 60Hz
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