GeForce GTX 480 and GTX 470 specs finally exposed

Sanvean said:

Low yields produce spec changes...

Nvidia initial batch of GeForce GTX 400 series to have fewer cores than expected

It's nothing to do with low yields. It's because the 512 cores needed a TDP of 295w, which is very high for a single card, so to not cause any problems, they've lowered them to 480 cores with a lower TDP for the initial launch.

Product FRED said:

AllMac said:

smarteyeball said:

$499 US for a 480... after currency conversion and re-sellers adding their mark up, plus the initial supply will outweigh demand - that equates to ouch in AUS dollars.

They'll cost around $1100 AUD, which is approximately $1000 USD.
Ordering from folks in US will save me at least $400 USD.

Wow. That's crazy pricing.

Yeah it is - we get shafted royally here

The only thing dissuading me from getting help from someone overseas would be potential RMA/Warranty issues...

Everlong18 said:

It's nothing to do with low yields. It's because the 512 cores needed a TDP of 295w, which is very high for a single card, so to not cause any problems, they've lowered them to 480 cores with a lower TDP for the initial launch.

Always leave room to move. Still, a potential 300w+ TDP for future models is one hell of a hungry beast

After the initial problems with the ATI 40nm process, the fabrication 'issues' at taiwan were supposedly ironed out.

Although since ATi are releasing the 5830 which is basically a crippled, lower binned 5850 for the masses, you have to wonder if the fabrication process is still producing poor yields for both camps.

If they left it at 512 cores with 295 TDP, and still left the power connectors as 1-8pin and 1-6pin, there'd be absolutley no headroom for overclocking or anything.

Be interesting to see what they come out with later on though, like the GTX260 was raised from 192 cores to 216 cores as well.

Everlong18 said:

If they left it at 512 cores with 295 TDP, and still left the power connectors as 1-8pin and 1-6pin, there'd be absolutley no headroom for overclocking or anything.

Be interesting to see what they come out with later on though, like the GTX260 was raised from 192 cores to 216 cores as well.

Which is exactly one reason why I wouldn't seriously consider one of these cards at launch. I'd be very unhappy to fork out so much, only to discover a quicker and better revision came out not long afterwards.

I've got the card upgrade itch though - so must fight temptation

smarteyeball said:

Everlong18 said:

If they left it at 512 cores with 295 TDP, and still left the power connectors as 1-8pin and 1-6pin, there'd be absolutley no headroom for overclocking or anything.

Be interesting to see what they come out with later on though, like the GTX260 was raised from 192 cores to 216 cores as well.

Which is exactly one reason why I wouldn't seriously consider one of these cards at launch. I'd be very unhappy to fork out so much, only to discover a quicker and better revision came out not long afterwards.

I've got the card upgrade itch though - so must fight temptation

I'm just going to settle for a 470 either way, as a 480 is too expensive for me while in University.

Though at the end of it, no matter what the power consumption or temperatures are, all a lot of people are going to be bothered about is how fast they are overall.

another delay? hm.

I'm just ignoring anything at the moment and waiting to see what actually happens tomorrow. Because there's also places saying Nvidia has more cards ready than what ATI had when the 5000 series were released.

I know for a fact scan.co.uk in the UK have cards ready, because they're doing a "try before you buy" tomorrow and Saturday and are demonstrating cards.