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Windows 7: GeForce GTX 480 and GTX 470 specs finally exposed

14 Apr 2010   #71
Zen00

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Sounds good, though really, the performance gains you get with the 480 are IMHO a "six month" gain, and not the game changer that they were touted to be.


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14 Apr 2010   #72
XGUNTHERC

Windows 7 Ultimate Edition x64
 
 

oh without a doubt..

ATI's new cards will be out probably right before christmas, with a 5890 probably this summer to beat the 480.. but wait til nvidia does a respin.

Nvidia's going to respin, and release the full 512SP Fermi card on a much improved 40nm technology or go right to 32nm. Personally Fermi and 32nm will be very hard to beat if they can fit all the transistors onto it.. I think Nvidia threw this out cuz they had to get something out. and the 512SP model will be coming before the year is over. and it will be a beast!

oh and I'm fine with a 6 month gain. I only had my first 260 for a month, then got the second and had those 7 months. I get a new card every 6 months anyways. whatever the next best card is. I'll snag it. I have no problem with that.

calling anything in the PC tech business nothing special because it's only a "six month gain" or only going to be the best for a short while.. that doesn't work. because how fast technology moves. Something better will ALWAYS be coming out in 4-6 months, weather it's faster ram, a better CPU, or the 6 core CPU that just knocked all those i7 people into a new item to crave. or a graphics cards.. it's a never ending cycle. the should I upgrade now, or wait til next release question is a dumb one. there will always be something new coming soon. so get what's best, or what suits you when you need it. and enjoy it.

I'm going to download and try badaboom video encoding tonight. as this 480 is supposed to FLY through encoding!
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14 Apr 2010   #73
XGUNTHERC

Windows 7 Ultimate Edition x64
 
 

i didn't wanna add to my already long post, but I agree it wasn't as big of a game changer as people thought it would be.. but when you really look at everything Fermi can do. it's actually very impressive.

it's more than just a GPU. it's a cGPU, its a graphics card, it's a server and workstation card. it does it all. and it's very powerful.. F@H takes advantage of it. and many things like badaboom do also. Wait another 2-3 months and we'll all start seeing the even more things this card can do.

ATI's 5000 series cards has a single tessellation CUDA core, and these fermi cards have like 32. DX11 will be what sets the 470/480 apart from the competition.
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15 Apr 2010   #74
squall leonhart

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by XGUNTHERC View Post
oh without a doubt..

ATI's new cards will be out probably right before christmas, with a 5890 probably this summer to beat the 480.. but wait til nvidia does a respin.

Nvidia's going to respin, and release the full 512SP Fermi card on a much improved 40nm technology or go right to 32nm. Personally Fermi and 32nm will be very hard to beat if they can fit all the transistors onto it.. I think Nvidia threw this out cuz they had to get something out. and the 512SP model will be coming before the year is over. and it will be a beast!

oh and I'm fine with a 6 month gain. I only had my first 260 for a month, then got the second and had those 7 months. I get a new card every 6 months anyways. whatever the next best card is. I'll snag it. I have no problem with that.

calling anything in the PC tech business nothing special because it's only a "six month gain" or only going to be the best for a short while.. that doesn't work. because how fast technology moves. Something better will ALWAYS be coming out in 4-6 months, weather it's faster ram, a better CPU, or the 6 core CPU that just knocked all those i7 people into a new item to crave. or a graphics cards.. it's a never ending cycle. the should I upgrade now, or wait til next release question is a dumb one. there will always be something new coming soon. so get what's best, or what suits you when you need it. and enjoy it.

I'm going to download and try badaboom video encoding tonight. as this 480 is supposed to FLY through encoding!
Since ati intends on releasing the 6ks on 28nm, there will not be a 6k launch this year. the first cards will be a refresh of the 5k series on 28nm to iron out any bugs on the node.

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Nvidia's going to respin, and release the full 512SP Fermi card on a much improved 40nm technology or go right to 32nm. Personally Fermi and 32nm will be very hard to beat if they can fit all the transistors onto it.. I think Nvidia threw this out cuz they had to get something out. and the 512SP model will be coming before the year is over. and it will be a beast!
There isn't going to be a 32nm Full Node, only half node. the next Full node will be 28nm.

Going by the design of the core and how its laid out. I believe that Fermi was never designed for 40nm, and that it was only put onto it to earn nvidia some $$$$$$. until the 28nm process is ready and bugs are ironed out.

Unlike ATI, nvidia thinks 3 years ahead, not 12 months.
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15 Apr 2010   #75
XGUNTHERC

Windows 7 Ultimate Edition x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by squall leonhart View Post

Unlike ATI, nvidia thinks 3 years ahead, not 12 months.
interesting news.. Yea I have a feeling the next full respin fermi will be a beast even more than they already are
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15 Apr 2010   #76
squall leonhart

Windows 7
 
 

Fermi was in development since 2006... maybe even before given whats come to light about the GTX 200 designs being a precursor to fermi.

the Radeon 5k was an evolution of the 4k which was an evolution of the 3k etc, from what i've heard (which isn't much) 6k is going to be something new, and new doesn't just occur in a 12-18 month period.
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15 Apr 2010   #77
Everlong

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by squall leonhart View Post
Fermi was in development since 2006... maybe even before given whats come to light about the GTX 200 designs being a precursor to fermi.

the Radeon 5k was an evolution of the 4k which was an evolution of the 3k etc, from what i've heard (which isn't much) 6k is going to be something new, and new doesn't just occur in a 12-18 month period.
Well ATI are planning the 6000 series in early 2011, which can be roughly 18 months from the 5000 release. Nvidia have said their next main thing will be in around 18 months as well, but in the mean time both sides will have their respins.

The GT200s weren't an early Fermi. They were G80s on crack. They still had the full unified shader architecture the G80s had. Though still, if Fermi was in development that long ago, they were still able to release the G80s around the same time, which were a big game changing card.
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15 Apr 2010   #78
squall leonhart

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The GT200s weren't an early Fermi. They were G80s on crack. They still had the full unified shader architecture the G80s had. Though still, if Fermi was in development that long ago, they were still able to release the G80s around the same time, which were a big game changing card.
I know of the spec technicalities. However, nvidia have been quite clear about G200's role in the Fermi development.

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Nvidia have said their next main thing will be in around 18 months as well, but in the mean time both sides will have their respins.
the Fermi design at this point really doesn't need more shaders or tmu's, Nvidia could improve just by improving features of the cards and raising clock rates, it'll take 28nm and fixing all the leaks to pull it off though.
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17 Apr 2010   #79
XGUNTHERC

Windows 7 Ultimate Edition x64
 
 

Go PC Gaming!

Crysis 2 and whatever card is best I'll be a happy camper!
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17 Apr 2010   #80
Everlong

 

CryTek said the PC version of Crysis 2 will be graphically better than the console versions, which is good news.
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