FPS lag

Nikkeli said:

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460 1GB & GTX 460 768MB Review

Here's review on 768mb and 1GB versions of GTX 460 5830 and 5850 and few others.
What you should look at is the game tests, not just 1 game or the game you like or play, but few of em to get wider picture what the card is capable of.
Then overclocking if you're into that, and power consumption if you care about that and conclusion, to me it looks best choice.

Thanks, i'll have a look through it.

mickey megabyte said:

there's always a lot of debate about which is the better of amd/ati or nvidia graphics cards.

you've already got an ati card and drivers installed, making it a bit simpler to stick with ati, if you ask me. others may disagree :)

of course, it's your money and buy whichever you like. you won't be dissatisfied whichever you chose.

as far as a 500w psu, about $50? i'm not sure, as i'm in england.

you may need to ask for some help installing it though, have you a friend or neighbour who is knowledgable in this area? installing the card is pretty simple, but the psu will be a bit trickier,as there are more plugs/leads to deal with.

I'm in England aswell As for the installing part, to be honest, i have no clue I was looking on buying the parts and then taking it to a computer shop because i don't really feel comfortable doing it myself.

As for the graphics card, i really don't mind on the make i just want one that is good enough to run every thing smoothly. As i have an ati now i presume it would be easier to get another ati. Could you recommend any stores to get a graphics card and a new psu?

installing a graphics card and a psu is not really for beginners - unless you're brave, adventurous and willing to learn! it's one of those things that is simple and straight-forward if you've done it before, but can be a bit of a nightmare if you're a beginner. there are lots of leads coming out of the psu that need to be unplugged and replugged into various places and components inside your machine.

if you're in devon, you can bring it over to me, and i'll do it for you! :) otherwise it's a good idea to get some outside help who knows what they are doing.

do you have a favourite online shop to buy from? if so i could help advise which bits to buy.

mickey megabyte said:

installing a graphics card and a psu is not really for beginners - unless you're brave, adventurous and willing to learn! it's one of those things that is simple and straight-forward if you've done it before, but can be a bit of a nightmare if you're a beginner. there are lots of leads coming out of the psu that need to be unplugged and replugged into various places and components inside your machine.

if you're in devon, you can bring it over to me, and i'll do it for you! :) otherwise it's a good idea to get some outside help who knows what they are doing.

do you have a favourite online shop to buy from? if so i could help advise which bits to buy.

I'm in Birmingham, Devons abit far for me :) I don't really have a favourite shop. The only shop i use online is Play.com if you think they are any good.

what's your budget for the card and psu?

mickey megabyte said:

what's your budget for the card and psu?

I don't really have a budget. I want one that is good enough for the top settings on pretty much any game but i don't want to spend loads. If you could tell me some prices and i will tell you if i am willing to pay that much.

If you're going to buy psu, don't i say again DON'T buy cheapest and with most watts, that tells nothing about it.

Look at the tech specs and look at how much amps the 12v rail is giving, it should be stated, if it's not you'll know it's not good psu.

corsair is good quality so stick with those, also psu with multiple 12v's is not that great either, but remember the amps on 12v rail is what matters, not the watts, low amps on 12v rail means if you put some load on the psu it will blow up sooner or later.

Pay for quality on those so it lasts good 4 years or more.

400 watt should run any non high end card, 650w runs any card, expect for sli/crossfire.

Installing GPU is very easy but it's good idea to not just figure it out yourself, even though that usually wont do any bad, if you have unplugged your pc from wall, and have pressed power button few times to release the remaining charge.

But you could look at youtube videos on how to install GPU, it's not really rocket science, you just need some reference and it's as easy as changing pants.

PSU on the other hand might not be, horrible cable mess and all, better do that with expert or put some time into this kind of stuff yourself.

Anyhow I'm still with 460, and it's not ati vs nvidia, it's just that I don't see any competition in the mid range GPU's since 460 came out, it's cheaper, cooler and more silent, plus it almost beats 5850 too.

okay, a 5850 graphics card card will be about £250, 5870 = about £350

gtx 460 about £175 which is a lot of bang for buck - i may change my mind from what i said above, and go for this card. the 5850 is slightly faster, but quite a bit more expensive - you pays your money and you takes your choice...

half decent 500w psu about £60

maybe postage to pay on top, depending where you buy.

Corsair HX520w fits in that 500w range and is reliable (got that myself) or Corsair VX550W.

mickey megabyte said:

okay, a 5850 graphics card card will be about £250, 5870 = about £350

gtx 460 about £175 which is a lot of bang for buck - i may change my mind from what i said above, and go for this card. the 5850 is slightly faster, but quite a bit more expensive - you pays your money and you takes your choice...

half decent 500w psu about £60

maybe postage to pay on top, depending where you buy.

So is the gtx 460 able to run every thing smoothly? Also, do i have to check if it is compatable with the other stuff in my computer or doesn't that matter?

Just to get an insight on whats good and whats not, Is this psu any good?
OCZ OCZ600MXSP-UK / ModXStream Pro / 600W / ATX / PSU / Power Supply Unit - Computing at Play.com (UK)