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Windows 7: Best card for around $200?

24 Jul 2010   #21
Solarstarshines

Windows 10 Home Premium 64bit sp1
 
 

1gb makes all the difference and ussually nvidia uses ddr3 on there gpus but noticable difference now there using ddr5 but i would still run with ati because nvidia is always over priced and there will always be another fade gpu series comming out in the next few months

so why bother spending the extra cash cause in the long run you can get a better card for less price and upgrade will still be cheaper in the long run vs nvidia


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24 Jul 2010   #22
XGamer95

Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit
 
 

I was looking at the Palit GTX 460 Sonic Platinum (1024MB GDDR5), priced at $250, and noticed that it says:

"This graphics card requires:

1. PCI Express or PCI Express 2.0-compliant motherboard with one dual-width x 16 graphics slot.
2. Two 6-pin PCI Express supplementary power connectors.
"

By dual width, it just means you need the space of two graphics card height-wise right?
Also, it comes with one 6-pin to two molex adapter apparently. Would I just plug two molex connectors from the PSU into the adapter and then plug the 6-pin into the card or do I need two of the adapters? Is there anything else I should know before I purchase this card?
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24 Jul 2010   #23
chakradhar

Windows 7 32 bit ultimate
 
 
Best card for around $200?

Both cards are having their own pros and cons
the results of various bench markings are here
for GTX 460 card is Palit GTX 460 and for 5830 card is asus Radeon HD 5830

futuremark 3D vantage @1920x1200

GTX 460 :8965
ATI 5830 :8259
for game bench mark
alien vs predator directx 11 based game with maxquality 4xAA,16xAF@192x1200

GTX 460 :avg 30 fps
ATI 5830 :avg 23 fps

battlefield bad company 2 directx 11 based game with Maxquality 4xAA,16xAF@1920x1200

GTX 460 :avg 54 fps
ATI 5830 :avg 48 fps

call of duty modern warfare 2 with 4xAA@1920x1200

GTX 460 :avg 56 fps
ATI 5830 :avg 38 fps

crysis warhead @1920x1200

GTX 460 :avg 37 fps
ATI 5830 :avg 32 fps

dirt2 which is a directx11 based game @1920x1200

GTX 460 :avg 73 fps
ATI 5830 :avg 51 fps

farcry2 directx 10 based game @1920x1200

GTX 460 :avg 67 fps
ATI 5830 :avg 31 fps



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Palit GTX 460 Sonic Platinum & Inno3D GeForce GTX 460


By Steven Walton on July 12, 2010
Editor: Julio Franco

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Final Thoughts: A Winning GeForce

[COLOR=#05408f !important][COLOR=#05408f !important]Nvidia[/COLOR][/COLOR]


has done an excellent job with the GeForce GTX 460 and itís the first graphics card from the green camp that we have genuinely been excited about from the get go in quite some time.

The GTX 460 768MB version is expected to retail for just $200 and has inherited the responsibility of taking on the [COLOR=#05408f !important][COLOR=#05408f !important]Radeon[/COLOR][/COLOR] HD 5830. So the first question we must address is how these cards compare? Using our 1920x1200 data we find that on average the Inno3D GeForce GTX (768MB) was 7% faster than the Radeon HD 5830. Not bad for a graphics card that costs the same, consumes slightly less power, runs cooler and quieter.
However, the real ace in the hole for the GeForce GTX 460 is its extreme overclocking ability. Without adjusting the GPU voltage in any way, we were able to boost the clock frequency from 675MHz to 865MHz. This results in a hefty performance gain, in games such as Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 for example, we saw a [COLOR=#05408f !important][COLOR=#05408f !important]bump[/COLOR][/COLOR]

of over 20% allowing the Inno3D GeForce GTX (768MB) to mimic GeForce GTX 470's performance at a fraction of the price.
Reviews

Palit GTX 460 Sonic Platinum & Inno3D GeForce GTX 460


By Steven Walton on July 12, 2010
Editor: Julio Franco

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Final Thoughts: A Winning GeForce

[COLOR=#05408f !important][COLOR=#05408f !important]Nvidia[/COLOR][/COLOR]
has done an excellent job with the GeForce GTX 460 and itís the first graphics card from the green camp that we have genuinely been excited about from the get go in quite some time.
The GTX 460 768MB version is expected to retail for just $200 and has inherited the responsibility of taking on the [COLOR=#05408f !important][COLOR=#05408f !important]Radeon[/COLOR][/COLOR] HD 5830. So the first question we must address is how these cards compare? Using our 1920x1200 data we find that on average the Inno3D GeForce GTX (768MB) was 7% faster than the Radeon HD 5830. Not bad for a graphics card that costs the same, consumes slightly less power, runs cooler and quieter. However, the real ace in the hole for the GeForce GTX 460 is its extreme overclocking ability. Without adjusting the GPU voltage in any way, we were able to boost the clock frequency from 675MHz to 865MHz. This results in a hefty performance gain, in games such as Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 for example, we saw a [COLOR=#05408f !important][COLOR=#05408f !important]bump[/COLOR][/COLOR]

of over 20% allowing the Inno3D GeForce GTX (768MB) to mimic GeForce GTX 470's performance at a fraction of the price.

Looking at the 1GB variant of the GTX 460, we must give props to Palit who are showing an impressive product in the GTX 460 Sonic Platinum (1GB). It's rare to see these days a [COLOR=#05408f !important][COLOR=#05408f !important]graphics [COLOR=#05408f !important]cards[/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR] using a custom PCB, cooling and factory overclocking on the same package and at launch time.

The 1GB version of the GeForce GTX 460 has been suggested to retail for $230-240, about 20% more expensive than the 768MB version. On paper the 1GB cards have 33% more bandwidth at its disposal thanks to the 256-bit wide memory bus. The Palit GTX 460 Sonic Platinum (1GB) is of course much faster than a standard 1GB card running at stock speeds. For a brief comparison of the two look at our overclocking section where we underclocked our Palit sample.
At its factory overclocked speeds, we found the Palit GTX 460 Sonic Platinum to deliver roughly the same performance of the GeForce GTX 470 which costs considerably more, consumes more power and is louder. Moreover, when compared to the Radeon HD 5850, the GTX 460 Sonic Platinum was more often than not the faster board, all while saving you a hundred bucks in the process.

so better to take GTX 460




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24 Jul 2010   #24
XGamer95

Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit
 
 

Can someone answer my post up above?
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24 Jul 2010   #25
Everlong

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by XGamer95 View Post
I was looking at the Palit GTX 460 Sonic Platinum (1024MB GDDR5), priced at $250, and noticed that it says:

"This graphics card requires:

1. PCI Express or PCI Express 2.0-compliant motherboard with one dual-width x 16 graphics slot.
2. Two 6-pin PCI Express supplementary power connectors."

By dual width, it just means you need the space of two graphics card height-wise right?
Also, it comes with one 6-pin to two molex adapter apparently. Would I just plug two molex connectors from the PSU into the adapter and then plug the 6-pin into the card or do I need two of the adapters? Is there anything else I should know before I purchase this card?
It means dual width as in it will take up two slots in your case. So it will require a PCI-E x16 slot, and the cooler on it will take up the slot below it.

You'll need to check your PSU as well before buying. The card requires 450 watts, with 24 amps on the 12v rail. It needs two 6-pin cables connected to it. I wouldn't personally use molex-to-6pin adapters as it's always better to use proper 6-pin cables, so check your PSU. I imagine your PSU should have atleast one 6-pin cable on it, then you could use the adapter that comes with the card.
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24 Jul 2010   #26
JonM33

Windows 7 Home Premium x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by cheeriokilla View Post
Check out the performance when AA is enabled:

GeForce GTX 460 1GB Bad Company 2 (DX11) Performance | bit-tech.net
Yes, still below the Radeon HD 5850 average framerate. Thanks for helping to support my statement.
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24 Jul 2010   #27
JonM33

Windows 7 Home Premium x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by XGamer95 View Post
Alright, now I just have to make sure it will fit and pick a new PSU.
I highly recommend Corsair power supplies. The HX series are probably the best.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by XGamer95 View Post
I was looking at the Palit GTX 460 Sonic Platinum (1024MB GDDR5), priced at $250, and noticed that it says:

"This graphics card requires:

1. PCI Express or PCI Express 2.0-compliant motherboard with one dual-width x 16 graphics slot.
2. Two 6-pin PCI Express supplementary power connectors.
"

By dual width, it just means you need the space of two graphics card height-wise right?
Also, it comes with one 6-pin to two molex adapter apparently. Would I just plug two molex connectors from the PSU into the adapter and then plug the 6-pin into the card or do I need two of the adapters? Is there anything else I should know before I purchase this card?
Yes, it means that it will occupy 2 expansion card slots due to the heatsink.

Do not use any adapter. Get a power supply with a pair of 6-pin PCIe connectors.
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24 Jul 2010   #28
XGamer95

Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Everlong View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by XGamer95 View Post
I was looking at the Palit GTX 460 Sonic Platinum (1024MB GDDR5), priced at $250, and noticed that it says:

"This graphics card requires:

1. PCI Express or PCI Express 2.0-compliant motherboard with one dual-width x 16 graphics slot.
2. Two 6-pin PCI Express supplementary power connectors."

By dual width, it just means you need the space of two graphics card height-wise right?
Also, it comes with one 6-pin to two molex adapter apparently. Would I just plug two molex connectors from the PSU into the adapter and then plug the 6-pin into the card or do I need two of the adapters? Is there anything else I should know before I purchase this card?
It means dual width as in it will take up two slots in your case. So it will require a PCI-E x16 slot, and the cooler on it will take up the slot below it.

You'll need to check your PSU as well before buying. The card requires 450 watts, with 24 amps on the 12v rail. It needs two 6-pin cables connected to it. I wouldn't personally use molex-to-6pin adapters as it's always better to use proper 6-pin cables, so check your PSU. I imagine your PSU should have atleast one 6-pin cable on it, then you could use the adapter that comes with the card.
I was planning on getting a new PSU. I chose this (Newegg.com - Rosewill RV2-700 700W ATX12V v2.3 / EPS12V SLI Ready Power Supply) Rosewill 700 watt PSU. It says it has a 6-pin and a 6+2-pin, so I believe I'm good on that. I don't know if it has 24 amps on the 12v rail though. Could you tell me if it would be good?
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24 Jul 2010   #29
JonM33

Windows 7 Home Premium x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by XGamer95 View Post
I was planning on getting a new PSU. I chose this (Newegg.com - Rosewill RV2-700 700W ATX12V v2.3 / EPS12V SLI Ready Power Supply) Rosewill 700 watt PSU. It says it has a 6-pin and a 6+2-pin, so I believe I'm good on that. I don't know if it has 24 amps on the 12v rail though. Could you tell me if it would be good?
Rosewill is NewEgg's hardware brand. I wouldn't touch one of their power supplies. Check out the Corsair TX series. It should fit your budget.

Also, you do NOT need a 700W PSU with that video card.
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24 Jul 2010   #30
XGamer95

Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by JonM33 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by XGamer95 View Post
I was planning on getting a new PSU. I chose this (Newegg.com - Rosewill RV2-700 700W ATX12V v2.3 / EPS12V SLI Ready Power Supply) Rosewill 700 watt PSU. It says it has a 6-pin and a 6+2-pin, so I believe I'm good on that. I don't know if it has 24 amps on the 12v rail though. Could you tell me if it would be good?
Rosewill is NewEgg's hardware brand. I wouldn't touch one of their power supplies. Check out the Corsair TX series. It should fit your budget.

Also, you do NOT need a 700W PSU with that video card.
What about this one: Newegg.com - Antec BP550 Plus 550W Continuous Power ATX12V V2.2 Modular Active PFC Power Supply or this one: Newegg.com - COOLER MASTER GX Series RS650-ACAAE3-US 650W ATX12V v2.31 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply ?
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