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Windows 7: Which Blu-Ray burner would you recommend?

02 Aug 2010   #1
unifex

Windows 7 Ultimate (x64)
 
 
Which Blu-Ray burner would you recommend?

I am thinking about adding a Blu-Ray drive to my desktop. It seems a waste of effort to buy just the player, so I am looking into the burners. As far as I can gather from the usual sources, there isn't a large variety to choose from. It seems that the Pioneer drive (apparently there is also a Plextor which people claim to be the same thing) is rated the best, while the LG is cheaper. To my surprise, Sony does not sell such drive anymore.

Anyone has a positive experience with a Blu-Ray burner? Could you recommend a good drive?

Thanks in advance.


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02 Aug 2010   #2
Adrian

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by unifex View Post
I am thinking about adding a Blu-Ray drive to my desktop. It seems a waste of effort to buy just the player, so I am looking into the burners. As far as I can gather from the usual sources, there isn't a large variety to choose from. It seems that the Pioneer drive (apparently there is also a Plextor which people claim to be the same thing) is rated the best, while the LG is cheaper. To my surprise, Sony does not sell such drive anymore.

Anyone has a positive experience with a Blu-Ray burner? Could you recommend a good drive?

Thanks in advance.
Unifex, depending on what you use the burner for will determine the investment you are going to shell out for.
My guess is that you are wanting to create a hi def library but copying blu ray disks that are copyright is illegal. So we need to very careful here.
For the sake of argument it would be more advantageous to purchase a high capacity hard drive and a blu ray optical drive and the accompanying software for around $300 and make iso's and virtual mount for viewing on your chosen system.
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02 Aug 2010   #3
merkat106

Windows 7 Enterprise x64 SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Adrian View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by unifex View Post
I am thinking about adding a Blu-Ray drive to my desktop. It seems a waste of effort to buy just the player, so I am looking into the burners. As far as I can gather from the usual sources, there isn't a large variety to choose from. It seems that the Pioneer drive (apparently there is also a Plextor which people claim to be the same thing) is rated the best, while the LG is cheaper. To my surprise, Sony does not sell such drive anymore.

Anyone has a positive experience with a Blu-Ray burner? Could you recommend a good drive?

Thanks in advance.
Unifex, depending on what you use the burner for will determine the investment you are going to shell out for.
My guess is that you are wanting to create a hi def library but copying blu ray disks that are copyright is illegal. So we need to very careful here.
For the sake of argument it would be more advantageous to purchase a high capacity hard drive and a blu ray optical drive and the accompanying software for around $300 and make iso's and virtual mount for viewing on your chosen system.
I agreed with Adrian, but I'll give you my opinion of brands of blu-ray.
LG is a brand, though my LG drive only reads blu ray- it writes to everything else, I have been happy with its performance. I don't see why the blu-ray burners wouldn't be good...they should be great drives.
I have considered Samsung and Lite-On drives.
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03 Aug 2010   #4
grimreaper

Windows 7 Ultimate X64
 
 

My very first Blu-Ray optical (burner) drive I bought was the LG GGW-H20L.

Owned since last year, and if I remember correct, I purchased it last year (Aug 2009).

I have burned several CD/DVD/DVD DL, and a few BD-R's/BD-RE as they're very expensive at the current moment, even after 1 year

I have never had a single problem, therefore, I give it a flawless 5 star rating.

LG GGW-H20L internal Blu-ray optical drive it reads and burns an impressive number of formats, quiet, and stable.

Source

Hope this information may help you decide which blu-ray burner you may purchase in the future.
Good luck.
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03 Aug 2010   #5
unifex

Windows 7 Ultimate (x64)
 
 

Thank you Greamreaper! Unfortunately the drive you mentioned has been discontinued. Hopefully the current LG models are of similar quality.

@Adrian

The comparison between the optical storage and hard drives has two issues in it, price per GB and failure probability.

As far as the price goes, external drives now are starting at about 70 Euros - or $100 for 1 TB. This is certainly cheaper than 40 BD-R at 3-4 Euros each.

On the other hand, it is unlikely that all 40 discs will fail at the same time, which would be the equivalent of a hard drive failure.

Basically I thought that if I want to be able to read Blu-Ray media I need an optical drive and the price difference between BD-ROMs and burners is small, so I might as well go for the burner.
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03 Aug 2010   #6
Adrian

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by unifex View Post
Thank you Greamreaper! Unfortunately the drive you mentioned has been discontinued. Hopefully the current LG models are of similar quality.

@Adrian

The comparison between the optical storage and hard drives has two issues in it, price per GB and failure probability.

As far as the price goes, external drives now are starting at about 70 Euros - or $100 for 1 TB. This is certainly cheaper than 40 BD-R at 3-4 Euros each.

On the other hand, it is unlikely that all 40 discs will fail at the same time, which would be the equivalent of a hard drive failure.

Basically I thought that if I want to be able to read Blu-Ray media I need an optical drive and the price difference between BD-ROMs and burners is small, so I might as well go for the burner.
Inifex, I must disagree with you as the cost of a burner vs. a bd reader is appx. $100-$150, also considering the cost of BR media which is $6-8 per disk economically it makes more sense to purchase a reader and burn a bd as an iso to a hard drive.
Just my opinion....
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03 Aug 2010   #7
byngo

windows 7 ultimate 32bit
 
 

Well, I opted many months ago for the Bluray reader, mount iso options etc for my back-ups. This is so i can have a media center archive of my quickly accesible movies. I just get the remote control out, switch to my HD Display scroll through my collection, maybe watch the trailer first, read synopsis or just press play.
You won't need to worry about disks failing if you have the originals anyway!!!!

The HDD storage option is def the cheapest and I would argue the most reliable too.
I also make comparisons to the "old days" of burning DVDs. Invariably, some months later, several of those disks would fail to read despite the best efforts to always buy a quality brand and especially if you stuck a label on them. Imagine going through that learning curve with BD-R's.
Also, have you considered Bluary file size and 25 gig BD-R disks??? Many Bluray are 30 or even 40 gig plus in file size.
Finally, i don't have to find a space or shelf for all those back-up disks or keep the dust off them, or buy plastic wallets, print sleeves etc.
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03 Aug 2010   #8
Adrian

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by byngo View Post
Well, I opted many months ago for the Bluray reader, mount iso options etc for my back-ups. This is so i can have a media center archive of my quickly accesible movies. I just get the remote control out, switch to my HD Display scroll through my collection, maybe watch the trailer first, read synopsis or just press play.
You won't need to worry about disks failing if you have the originals anyway!!!!

The HDD storage option is def the cheapest and I would argue the most reliable too.
I also make comparisons to the "old days" of ripping & burning DVDs. Invariably, some months later, several of those disks would fail to read despite the best efforts to always buy a quality brand and especially if you stuck a label on them. Imagine going through that learning curve with BD-R's.
Also, have you considered ripped Bluary file size and 25 gig BD-R disks??? Many Bluray are 30 or even 40 gig plus in file size unless you strip them down to Main Movie only.
Finally, i don't have to find a space or shelf for all those back-up disks or keep the dust off them, or buy plastic wallets, print sleeves etc.
Well said!
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04 Aug 2010   #9
unifex

Windows 7 Ultimate (x64)
 
 

Well guys, this is a slippery road here, we're not here to discuss ripping anything.

Adrian, I am located in Germany right now, so my source is Amazon.de. I am not sure if we're allowed to cite commercial prices here, so if I'm out of line, then I'd ask the mods to let me know. Nevertheless, just as an example, a Samsung Blu-Ray reader is currently selling for 84 Euros. A LG burner is 132 Euros. That is 36% difference (relative to the burner). That I would be willing to pay for the extra functionality. As far as the storage goes, then surely hard drives are cheaper, that's what I said: a BD-R costs slightly above 3 Euros, so 1 TB is about 140-150, while the drives start at 70.

As far as media failure, my experience is that DVD+R are pretty stable. I've had maybe several bad one over the years, so about 2%. However, now that I have lots of them, they just clutter. Hard drives are good as well, but I had two failures out of 8, that's 25%. That's why up until now most of my backups were on DVD+R. It's the clutter that forces me to think otherwise.

However, reading the comments in this and other threads, as well as looking at Amazon, I just don't see the BD-R as a viable replacement for DVD+R. There are just way too few burners on the market and the media is too expensive. Perhaps indeed the external drives are the way to go.
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04 Aug 2010   #10
byngo

windows 7 ultimate 32bit
 
 

Who said anything about external drives. (And apologies for adding the word "ripping" in the context of burning anything, of course you have a whole load of HD camcorder stuff you need to burn to Bluray)

Externals might be an option, but not very quick with USB transfer rate and Bluray (high Definition video) file sizes.
If your motherboard has an E-sata port and you buy a corresponding external drive or drive caddy that would be as fast as an internal hard drive.

Cheapest, staright forward option is to just add a 1TB SATA hdd into your desktop case. When its full, delete some files or add another one. (assuming its a modern mobo with 4 or more sata headers available and enough Power supply connectors of the Sata type).
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