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Windows 7: Am I doing something Wrong?

02 Aug 2010   #11
grimreaper

Windows 7 Ultimate X64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Fumz View Post

Are you saying you're using two surge protectors: one in addition to the surge protection provided by the UPS? If so, don't.
That is dangerous, and a very likely event that something terrible may happen.


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02 Aug 2010   #12
grimreaper

Windows 7 Ultimate X64
 
 

I have a Belkin UPS F6C1500TWRK backup power supply, and it's not your typical UPS unit....this thing can power a fridge

I have mine connected to everything (Desktop PC, XBOX360,Netbook, external HD, 7.1 AMP,Blu-Ray player,DVD player, and of course my HDTV)... it's plugged in straight into the wall (grounded properly as it should).
It's the best investment everyone should have in case of a brownout or blackout, or even worse an unexpected Surge, it has never failed me once.

Do not ever plug a surge protector in a UPS, give it plenty of ventilation, and space for the wires.
Here's my 2 cents
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02 Aug 2010   #13
glennc

Windows 7 Ultimate
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Petey7 View Post
My brothers and dad understand it more than I do (second oldest is an electrician for an electrical contractor, oldest works at Calvert Cliffs Nuclear Power Plant in Maryland, and dad is the head of maintenance at a HP production plant). Among the things they have told me are 1) not enough power to the devices plugged into the second power strip, 2) increased chances of over loading the circuit, 3) damage to the outlet the first power strip is plugged into (easy to replace if you know what you are doing, easy to electrocute yourself is you don't). There were a few others, but those are the ones I remember off the top of my head.
Actually having worked with electrics, the explanation makes sense. I will have to do some thinking about that. Thanks because I didn't think of those things myself.
Good night.
glennc
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02 Aug 2010   #14
Phone Man

Windows 8.1 Pro w/Media Center 64bit, Windows 7 HP 64bit
 
 

I assume you are using the APC software to monitor your UPS.
This is what mine looks like. After a few blackouts the UPS seams to adjust to the load it sees and then recalculates the run time.
On my Battery Backup ports I have my PC, Monitor, Cable Modem, Router, Vontage Box and Wireless Phone System. I just turn off my PC and Monitor and leave the UPS on for the others since my Phone systems runs through the Router and Modem. I have two others for my two big screen TV's and cable boxes.

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02 Aug 2010   #15
glennc

Windows 7 Ultimate
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by grimreaper View Post
I have a Belkin UPS F6C1500TWRK backup power supply, and it's not your typical UPS unit....this thing can power a fridge

I have mine connected to everything (Desktop PC, XBOX360,Netbook, external HD, 7.1 AMP,Blu-Ray player,DVD player, and of course my HDTV)... it's plugged in straight into the wall (grounded properly as it should).
It's the best investment everyone should have in case of a brownout or blackout, or even worse an unexpected Surge, it has never failed me once.

Do not ever plug a surge protector in a UPS, give it plenty of ventilation, and space for the wires.
Here's my 2 cents
Hello grimreaper,
I appreciate you adding your knowledge. That is some UPS you've got there. Since I'm only concerned with line regulation and a auto nice shutdown I think/hope I'm going to be o.k.
To all, if I find out that my UPS doesn't charge when off, would it be bad to add a surge protector of of it within wattage ratings for the availability of an on/off switch and some additional surge protection? I'm talking about just the monitor and computer? Is that considered that dangerous within output wattage rating. I'm just concerned that the UPS I have seems to line noise fault when I power it up. The extra surge protector would be solely for convenience. Appreciate your opinions.
I can see why some, but if the wattage wasn't overdrawing the output, then that potential danger would be eliminated and it would just be the issue of a second probably larger surge protector circuit off the built in one.
glennc
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02 Aug 2010   #16
glennc

Windows 7 Ultimate
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Phone Man View Post
I assume you are using the APC software to monitor your UPS.
This is what mine looks like. After a few blackouts the UPS seams to adjust to the load it sees and then recalculates the run time.
On my Battery Backup ports I have my PC, Monitor, Cable Modem, Router, Vontage Box and Wireless Phone System. I just turn off my PC and Monitor and leave the UPS on for the others since my Phone systems runs through the Router and Modem. I have two others for my two big screen TV's and cable boxes.

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Jim
Hey Jim,
Ah an APC window I can almost recognize. Mine doesn't have the bar graph for the battery load or the manual self test. If I understand you, and I may not, the UPS actually monitors the load and recalculates the runtime on it's findings. My battery is showing 100% charged. What size is yours may I ask.
Thanks for the visual aid and your computer UPS.
With all the things you guys have come up with to protect, this may cost a lot more than I was thinking
glennc
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02 Aug 2010   #17
Phone Man

Windows 8.1 Pro w/Media Center 64bit, Windows 7 HP 64bit
 
 

I have the APC Back-UPS ES 750 which can support up to 450 Watts. I am using ver 2.2 of the software to monitor the UPS.
What model do you have? My old ones did not have the graph either so it depends on what model you have.

Jim
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02 Aug 2010   #18
glennc

Windows 7 Ultimate
 
 

Hello Phone Man,
I'm using the BE550G and I've updated the software to Windows 7 v2.2. I just got another event and they are not all occurring at power up. Still got to dig up the book, so until then I'll just leave it on and charge.
Tanks
glennc
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03 Aug 2010   #19
Phone Man

Windows 8.1 Pro w/Media Center 64bit, Windows 7 HP 64bit
 
 

You have the same family of UPS I have only mine is the next larger size. Are you looking at the Current Status page. That is where the Load Bar is located. From what I see on the APC site your UPS with Software ver 2.2 should show the Load Bar and also have the self-test.
Also your unit WILL charge when plugged in even if you turn it off.

Jim
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03 Aug 2010   #20
grimreaper

Windows 7 Ultimate X64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by glennc View Post
Hello grimreaper,
I appreciate you adding your knowledge. That is some UPS you've got there. Since I'm only concerned with line regulation and a auto nice shutdown I think/hope I'm going to be o.k.
To all, if I find out that my UPS doesn't charge when off, would it be bad to add a surge protector of of it within wattage ratings for the availability of an on/off switch and some additional surge protection? I'm talking about just the monitor and computer? Is that considered that dangerous within output wattage rating. I'm just concerned that the UPS I have seems to line noise fault when I power it up. The extra surge protector would be solely for convenience. Appreciate your opinions.
I can see why some, but if the wattage wasn't overdrawing the output, then that potential danger would be eliminated and it would just be the issue of a second probably larger surge protector circuit off the built in one.
glennc
Thanx for the compliments, I choose this UPS for the sole fact I knew I had a ton of electronic gear to protect in case of the obvious reasons.
It's better to have a UPS that has more juice available then what you're plugging in.

With regards to your question, I cannot stress adding a surge protector to your UPS is wrong, and as a matter of fact in the manuals, this is mentioned also not to plug a surge protector to the UPS.
I can only tell you what I think, it's up to you now to make your own choice if you want to plug in a surge protector to your UPS.
Good luck my friend
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