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Windows 7: installing IDE in new tower.

05 Aug 2010   #11
Dixon Butz

Win7 x64 X2, Win 8.0 x64, Win8.1 x64, Quad Boot
 
 

Ok there is no PATA. Sorry that was the wrong image. Here is the correct image for that board. You can install another SATA HD.



Motherboard Specifications, H-RS880-uATX (Aloe) HP Pavilion p6347c Desktop PC - HP technical support (Ireland - English)


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05 Aug 2010   #12
Alsenor

 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by merkat106 View Post
Some newer computers do not have PATA connections on their motherboards. This HP has a Foxconn mobo which does not.
Motherboard Specifications, H-RS880-uATX (Aloe) HP Pavilion p6347c Desktop PC - HP technical support (Ireland - English)
Thanks, Merkat. This is what I suspected. What upsets me is that the HP instructions are specific to my model computer (Adding or Replacing a Hard Drive HP Pavilion p6347c Desktop PC - HP technical support (Ireland - English)), but are wrong.
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What I think your options are: getting an ide drive enclosure or the drive or getting an IDE to SATA Adapter which should be no more than $20.
Amazon.com: Vantec CB-IS100 IDE to SATA Converter (Black): Electronics
I actually have both of these items. I have an exterior enclosure that I was using for backups, and I recently bought a PATA to SATA adapter. But when I tried to connect with the adapter I wasn't sure what goes where, then I looked at the HP instructions and thought "oh, they say I can connect without adapter!" NOT!
OK, so we are back to finding where to plug in the adapter cables. Two came with it - a wide red one (seems to be the data?) and one with a thin red and a thin black wire (power?). I think I found a power connection, because a light came on in the connector card, but I don't know where to connect the wider red band.
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05 Aug 2010   #13
merkat106

Windows 7 Enterprise x64 SP1
 
 

With SATA, one cable goes into the mobo (smaller connector), the other connects to the psu (larger connector). I am not sure what connetors your hp psu has, so I don't know if you need ide/sata power connector adapter (not sure that what thats called).
installing IDE in new tower.-idepower_to_satapower.jpg


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05 Aug 2010   #14
DocBrown

Win7 Enterprise, Win7 x86 (Ult 7600), Win7 x64 Ult 7600, TechNet RTM on AMD x64 (2.8Ghz)
 
 
IDE to <> Dual Bidirectional SATA Converter Adapter HDD

Found this gadget on eBay


IDE to <> Dual Bidirectional SATA Converter Adapter HDD

installing IDE in new tower.-sata_to_ide.jpg

IDE to SATA or SATA to IDE Adapter2-In-1 Bidirectional Bilateral. SATA-to-Ultra ATA-133 converter boards provide converter solutions for Parallel Ultra ATA Devices. 40 pin ATA port that can interface to parallel Ultra ATA (IDE) devices.


Description:
  • Bi-Directional SATA to IDE Adapter for serial and parllel ATA. This adapter Does-it-All
  • IDE to SATA Adapter or SATA to IDE Converter.
  • This is a bi-directional converter for serial and parallel ATA translation.
  • It includes the serial ATA PHY, Link, Transport, and Parallel ATA(Application Layer) controller.
  • The serial ATA Physical, link and transport layers are complaint to Serial ATA 1.0.
  • This IDE to SATA Converter supports a 1.5Ghz data rate.
Features:
  • With LED indicated power
  • Easy to install and no driver is required
  • Serial ATA 1.0 Specification Compliant
  • Automatic Serial ATA 1.5 Gbps Speed Negotiation
  • ATA/ATAPI PIO mode 0 to 4
  • ATA/ATAPI PI Ultra DMA of transfer rate 16.7, 25, 33, 48, 66, 100, 133, and 150 Mbps
  • ATA/ATAPIPI LAB48 addressing mode associated with 2-byte sector count
  • Support Serial ATA hot-plug
  • Ultra Low power consumption
  • Work for both AC and DC couple between the transmitter and receiver
  • Provide specified OOB signal detection and transmission
  • Support spread spectrum clocking to reduce EMI
  • Support partial/slumber power management
  • Provide adjustable TX signal amplitude and pre-emphasis level
  • Slave support
  • Weight: 78.2g
Package contents:
  • 1 x IDE to SATA or SATA to IDE Bilateral Converter Adapter
  • 1 x 4 pin power cable
  • 1 x SATA cable


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05 Aug 2010   #15
Alsenor

 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DocBrown View Post
Found this gadget on eBay


IDE to <> Dual Bidirectional SATA Converter Adapter HDD

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IDE to SATA or SATA to IDE Adapter2-In-1 Bidirectional Bilateral. SATA-to-Ultra ATA-133 converter boards provide converter solutions for Parallel Ultra ATA Devices. 40 pin ATA port that can interface to parallel Ultra ATA (IDE) devices.


Description:
  • Bi-Directional SATA to IDE Adapter for serial and parllel ATA. This adapter Does-it-All
  • IDE to SATA Adapter or SATA to IDE Converter.
  • This is a bi-directional converter for serial and parallel ATA translation.
  • It includes the serial ATA PHY, Link, Transport, and Parallel ATA(Application Layer) controller.
  • The serial ATA Physical, link and transport layers are complaint to Serial ATA 1.0.
  • This IDE to SATA Converter supports a 1.5Ghz data rate.
Features:
  • With LED indicated power
  • Easy to install and no driver is required
  • Serial ATA 1.0 Specification Compliant
  • Automatic Serial ATA 1.5 Gbps Speed Negotiation
  • ATA/ATAPI PIO mode 0 to 4
  • ATA/ATAPI PI Ultra DMA of transfer rate 16.7, 25, 33, 48, 66, 100, 133, and 150 Mbps
  • ATA/ATAPIPI LAB48 addressing mode associated with 2-byte sector count
  • Support Serial ATA hot-plug
  • Ultra Low power consumption
  • Work for both AC and DC couple between the transmitter and receiver
  • Provide specified OOB signal detection and transmission
  • Support spread spectrum clocking to reduce EMI
  • Support partial/slumber power management
  • Provide adjustable TX signal amplitude and pre-emphasis level
  • Slave support
  • Weight: 78.2g
Package contents:
  • 1 x IDE to SATA or SATA to IDE Bilateral Converter Adapter
  • 1 x 4 pin power cable
  • 1 x SATA cable
That is the gadget I just bought. But where does the red cable plug in on the mobo?
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05 Aug 2010   #16
stormy13
Microsoft MVP

Win 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

You plug the red SATA cable into one of the unused SATA ports (from that mobo picture; blue, light blue, white, red, orange, black).
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05 Aug 2010   #17
DocBrown

Win7 Enterprise, Win7 x86 (Ult 7600), Win7 x64 Ult 7600, TechNet RTM on AMD x64 (2.8Ghz)
 
 

One end of the red cable (Sata Data Cable) plugs into adapter & the other end into one of the empty sata ports on the motherboard.


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05 Aug 2010   #18
Alsenor

 
 

OMG, that is where I put it (I picked the red one). Stroke of luck, and the only place it would fit.
When I tried to reboot and check whether the old IDE drive shows up in Windows Explorer, it wouldn't boot into my W7 drive, but was scanning drives....., then demanded that I load proper boot media and reboot!
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05 Aug 2010   #19
DocBrown

Win7 Enterprise, Win7 x86 (Ult 7600), Win7 x64 Ult 7600, TechNet RTM on AMD x64 (2.8Ghz)
 
 

Are the Sata ports on the MB marked as to SATA0, SATA1, SATA2, SATA3, etc ?

Your main sata HD should be in SATA port 0 (zero) to boot first !
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05 Aug 2010   #20
Alsenor

 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DocBrown View Post
Are the Sata ports on the MB marked as to SATA0, SATA1, SATA2, SATA3, etc ?

Your main sata HD should be in SATA port 0 (zero) to boot first !
It is hard to see in there, but I have not changed the factory connections. It looks like the dark blue is marked SATA 1 and goes to the main drive, the white one is marked SATA 2 and goes to the DVD, and light blue is marked SATA 3, which may be where I need to go with my line?
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