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Windows 7: installing IDE in new tower.

05 Aug 2010   #21
DocBrown

Win7 Enterprise, Win7 x86 (Ult 7600), Win7 x64 Ult 7600, TechNet RTM on AMD x64 (2.8Ghz)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DocBrown View Post
Found this gadget on eBay


IDE to <> Dual Bidirectional SATA Converter Adapter HDD

Attachment 89647

IDE to SATA or SATA to IDE Adapter2-In-1 Bidirectional Bilateral. SATA-to-Ultra ATA-133 converter boards provide converter solutions for Parallel Ultra ATA Devices. 40 pin ATA port that can interface to parallel Ultra ATA (IDE) devices.



Description:
  • Bi-Directional SATA to IDE Adapter for serial and parllel ATA. This adapter Does-it-All
  • IDE to SATA Adapter or SATA to IDE Converter.
  • This is a bi-directional converter for serial and parallel ATA translation.
  • It includes the serial ATA PHY, Link, Transport, and Parallel ATA(Application Layer) controller.
  • The serial ATA Physical, link and transport layers are complaint to Serial ATA 1.0.
  • This IDE to SATA Converter supports a 1.5Ghz data rate.
Features:
  • With LED indicated power
  • Easy to install and no driver is required
  • Serial ATA 1.0 Specification Compliant
  • Automatic Serial ATA 1.5 Gbps Speed Negotiation
  • ATA/ATAPI PIO mode 0 to 4
  • ATA/ATAPI PI Ultra DMA of transfer rate 16.7, 25, 33, 48, 66, 100, 133, and 150 Mbps
  • ATA/ATAPIPI LAB48 addressing mode associated with 2-byte sector count
  • Support Serial ATA hot-plug
  • Ultra Low power consumption
  • Work for both AC and DC couple between the transmitter and receiver
  • Provide specified OOB signal detection and transmission
  • Support spread spectrum clocking to reduce EMI
  • Support partial/slumber power management
  • Provide adjustable TX signal amplitude and pre-emphasis level
  • Slave support
  • Weight: 78.2g
Package contents:
  • 1 x IDE to SATA or SATA to IDE Bilateral Converter Adapter
  • 1 x 4 pin power cable
  • 1 x SATA cable
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Alsenor View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DocBrown View Post
Are the Sata ports on the MB marked as to SATA0, SATA1, SATA2, SATA3, etc ?

Your main sata HD should be in SATA port 0 (zero) to boot first !
It is hard to see in there, but I have not changed the factory connections. It looks like the dark blue is marked SATA 1 and goes to the main drive, the white one is marked SATA 2 and goes to the DVD, and light blue is marked SATA 3, which may be where I need to go with my line?


Yes, try the one marked SATA 3 then for the connection of the adapter.


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05 Aug 2010   #22
Alsenor

 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DocBrown View Post
Yes, try the one marked SATA 3 then for the connection of the adapter.
I already did, with the same result as before.
I plugged the data cable into SATA 3 port. BUT - on reboot it starts out by "scanning drives......., and when that is done, it demands that I insert the W7 installation CD (which I do not have) or load proper boot media and reboot. That keeps going in a vicious circle, until I cut power. Then I have to disconnect the SATA 3 line to be able to boot into my main drive again.
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05 Aug 2010   #23
DocBrown

Win7 Enterprise, Win7 x86 (Ult 7600), Win7 x64 Ult 7600, TechNet RTM on AMD x64 (2.8Ghz)
 
 

You may have to go into the Bios setup before windows boots up & change to IDE HD's
as the selected HD
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05 Aug 2010   #24
Alsenor

 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DocBrown View Post
You may have to go into the Bios setup before windows boots up & change to IDE HD's
as the selected HD
First I want to boot into my W7 and check whether the OS recognizes the second drive.
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05 Aug 2010   #25
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
 
 

You have to go into the bios to set which drive will be the default boot device whenever first adding a new drive on. The exception to that of course would be usb external since plugging one of those in wouldn't offset the boot order.

I looked at some of the ide/sata converters and said no way. With the number of extra drives here I simply wnet for and ide/sata compatible external enclosure for backup on one or more left out of the case as well as popping old ide drives out of old builds for data rescue and wiping clean,

While many are seen for under $20 the better fan cooled enclosures will of course run higher to solve the cooling problem like one seen for $29.99 for both ide and sata that connects by eSata as well as usb. Newegg.com - SABRENT EC-UEIS7 Aluminum 3.5&#34; USB &#38; eSATA External Enclosure
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05 Aug 2010   #26
Alsenor

 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Night Hawk View Post
You have to go into the bios to set which drive will be the default boot device whenever first adding a new drive on.
Should that not be the same as before if I don't change the boot order?
Quote:
I looked at some of the ide/sata converters and said no way. With the number of extra drives here I simply wnet for and ide/sata compatible external enclosure for backup on one or more left out of the case as well as popping old ide drives out of old builds for data rescue and wiping clean,

While many are seen for under $20 the better fan cooled enclosures will of course run higher to solve the cooling problem like one seen for $29.99 for both ide and sata that connects by eSata as well as usb. Newegg.com - SABRENT EC-UEIS7 Aluminum 3.5" USB & eSATA External Enclosure
I do have an external enclosure that I use for backups, but I am looking for a second drive to run XP on it.
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06 Aug 2010   #27
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
 
 

Since that model board lacks any ide connection which is what you were looking for there are sata/ide converters for internal as well as external use allowing you to run an ide drive through a sata port. But the best advice would simply move into a second sata drive for XP or split the present up to allow for the dual boot there.

The second method in the guide for setting up a dual boot of XP with 7 is what you would follow for that. Dual Boot Installation with Windows 7 and XP

As for the boot order getting familiar with things and sub menus most importantly for this found there is the largest help. In most bioses once you have the list of hard drives installed brought up you simply highlight the particular drive and move that to the top of the list using the plus or minus keys on the NumPad section of the keyboard. Usually there's a notation seen to the right on each bios screen with a little info for things there.
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06 Aug 2010   #28
Alsenor

 
 

Well, we didn't figure out how to get the old IDE connected or recognized by my OS.
Since my new 500GB WD arrived today, I don't want to waste anyone's time any longer by trying to get the old IDE connected.
Now I have to connect the new SATA, which came without cables.
I have an extra data cable from the IDE/SATA converter board that I can use, and I just ordered a Molex to SATA power adapter cable.
There is another male 8-pin connector on the new drive - what is that for?
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06 Aug 2010   #29
DocBrown

Win7 Enterprise, Win7 x86 (Ult 7600), Win7 x64 Ult 7600, TechNet RTM on AMD x64 (2.8Ghz)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Alsenor View Post
Well, we didn't figure out how to get the old IDE connected or recognized by my OS.
Since my new 500GB WD arrived today, I don't want to waste anyone's time any longer by trying to get the old IDE connected.
Now I have to connect the new SATA, which came without cables.
I have an extra data cable from the IDE/SATA converter board that I can use, and I just ordered a Molex to SATA power adapter cable.
There is another male 8-pin connector on the new drive - what is that for?

Does it look like the 40 pins on the IDE HD. If so it is probably for jumper settings for some type of drive limitations. What exact model # is the New WD HD ?
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06 Aug 2010   #30
Alsenor

 
 

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