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Windows 7: can't initialize to MBR!

21 Aug 2010   #11
Alsenor

 
 

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We just missed each other on the last post I see! Now are you trying this with the partition created with the PW program or did you create a new primary before booting from the XP cd?
I did the DM trip as you suggested.
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While booted in 7 you can schedule another run another run of checkdisk with the /r switch but may want to start off with a second fresh primary once the problem partition is gone.
Simply right click on the drive in the DM in order to see it deleted.
So we should do the DM trip over, the same as before? Assuming it did not work properly the first time.
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You can then create a new primary with the wizard or when going to boot from the XP cd the next time allowing the XP installer to format it during the next attempt.
But the installation CD never gets to that point!
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By first using the DM to see the new one created and formatted there you can try copying some files over to it to see if the drive itself has any defects like bad sectors however. That will save you some time as well.
Maybe this is what I should try next.


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22 Aug 2010   #12
Alsenor

 
 

Formatted in DM and put a file in it. Result is the same blue screen text. But I did not delete the drive and run the wizard to create it new. Will do that now.
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22 Aug 2010   #13
Night Hawk

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I would try that first to make sure the drive is working as it should. You may have to run a diagnostics tool from the manufacturer if you are having problems in order to determine if it needs to be returned or sent back. Dumping a likely corrupted partition table would be the first thought however if PW saw a glitch of some type when used.
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22 Aug 2010   #14
Alsenor

 
 

Now I deleted the volume, ran the wizard to create it new, and formatted it. Result of XP installation was the same text on blue screen as before.
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22 Aug 2010   #15
Alsenor

 
 

Currently I am running a surface test in PW.
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22 Aug 2010   #16
Night Hawk

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OUCH! Something is certainly wrong somewhere!

With a fresh primary to work with XP as well as any other version should go on without problems unless you are looking at a hardware fault with the drive or possible memory problem now being realized.

A run of memtest or the option seen for that on the 7 disk as well as at startup would be a thought to rule out any possible problem there. I suspect you may have a drive problem of some type like bad sectrors or worse having defective read/write heads if you are not able to simply copy any files over to it once partitioned and formatted.

Unfortunately that sounds a bit too more likely then the first assumption of problems seen with PW since many here seem to have good results but couldn't be ruled out either until seeing this. The test results may show the worst of course.
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22 Aug 2010   #17
Alsenor

 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Night Hawk View Post
OUCH! Something is certainly wrong somewhere!

With a fresh primary to work with XP as well as any other version should go on without problems unless you are looking at a hardware fault with the drive or possible memory problem now being realized.

A run of memtest or the option seen for that on the 7 disk as well as at startup would be a thought to rule out any possible problem there. I suspect you may have a drive problem of some type like bad sectrors or worse having defective read/write heads if you are not able to simply copy any files over to it once partitioned and formatted.

Unfortunately that sounds a bit too more likely then the first assumption of problems seen with PW since many here seem to have good results but couldn't be ruled out either until seeing this. The test results may show the worst of course.
But I am able to copy files over to it!
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22 Aug 2010   #18
Alsenor

 
 

Night Hawk, I appreciate your help, but can't keep up with you! My 71-year-old eyes are ON FIRE! I will check in the morning for new ideas, thanks for now!
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22 Aug 2010   #19
Night Hawk

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So now you know the heads are working as well as seeing a working partition you can access on the drive. The next steps would be inspecting the XP disk for any scratches or smudge marks from handling and if you have one onhand a drive lens cleaner.

One other thing I could ask here would be if you were attempting to install XP while booted in 7? That would immediately run into problems from the start. You have to be booted live from the XP disk itself in order to run the installer.

The only time you can be booted in 7 and run the older version's installer is when setting up a custom install on a virtual machine where the program(VBox, VM ware, etc.) requires bootable media be inserted in the optical drive.

Also to prevent seeing the 7 drive made bootable to XP only you would need to shutdown and simply unplug the host drive's data cable until XP is on and running. Then you would replug the data cable back in once powered down the second time. The guide will cover the rest as far as seeing it turned into a dual boot as far as copying the XP boot files over.

Missed each other's posts again! Take your time and go over things carefully.
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22 Aug 2010   #20
Alsenor

 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Night Hawk View Post
So now you know the heads are working as well as seeing a working partition you can access on the drive. The next steps would be inspecting the XP disk for any scratches or smudge marks from handling and if you have one onhand a drive lens cleaner.
I can inspect the CD and wipe it manually, but I don't have a drive lens cleaner.
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One other thing I could ask here would be if you were attempting to install XP while booted in 7? That would immediately run into problems from the start. You have to be booted live from the XP disk itself in order to run the installer.
Yes, I definitely "hit any key to" go to CD first, as it offers on reboot. My BIOS is set for CD priority.
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Also to prevent seeing the 7 drive made bootable to XP only you would need to shutdown and simply unplug the host drive's data cable until XP is on and running. Then you would replug the data cable back in once powered down the second time. The guide will cover the rest as far as seeing it turned into a dual boot as far as copying the XP boot files over.
So, first thing is unplugging the data cable from drive 0, then wipe the CD, then kneel in a corner to pray a little, then try installing XP.
And then give up on computers?
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Missed each other's posts again! Take your time and go over things carefully.
No matter, I read everything in my thread. Have a good day's sleep, Night Hawk, you deserve it!
Anyone else up yet to guide me on during the day?
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