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Windows 7: Intel Processor Advice

28 Aug 2010   #11
thefabe

Windows 7 ultimate 64 bit / XP Home sp3
 
 

My next build I'm going with the i7 930 myself.That's a great price
.That is of course unless I don't have the money when I expect to then I'll see what's out then. Fabe


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28 Aug 2010   #12
sanjoseparaiso

Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit
 
 

So majority go for intel?

Now here is my problem....

i7 930 is one of the choices here on my thread.. Same price as i7-870.

I ask the Tech here and he doesn't advice for overclocking the CPU which it makes the CPU lifespan less than a year.

i7 930 is 2.8
i7-870 is 2.9

So what would be good?
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28 Aug 2010   #13
bobkn

Windows 7 Pro X64 SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by sanjoseparaiso View Post
So majority go for intel?

Now here is my problem....

i7 930 is one of the choices here on my thread.. Same price as i7-870.

I ask the Tech here and he doesn't advice for overclocking the CPU which it makes the CPU lifespan less than a year.

i7 930 is 2.8
i7-870 is 2.9

So what would be good?
Different motherboards. The 930 is Socket 1366, the 870 is Socket 1156. 1366 supports triple channel memory. (It's not required, though.) Potentially higher performance than the dual channel of the 1156, at a higher cost.

Overclocking may shorten the life of a CPU, but to declare that it usually gives a "lifespan less than a year" is overly pessimistic. I've been running an I7 920 for longer than that at 3.8 GHz. (Cooler is a Thermalright Ultra Extreme 120, a large heatsink/fan but not the largest.)
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28 Aug 2010   #14
profdlp

Main - Windows 7 Pro SP1 64-Bit; 2nd - Windows Server 2008 R2
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by sanjoseparaiso View Post
So majority go for intel?...
I went in to MicroCenter intending to get a budget AMD system. It was only when I got a great deal on the 920 that I changed my mind.

This is a generalization, but Intel basically has the performance lead these days; AMD is a better value if you don't need top-end.
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28 Aug 2010   #15
Tepid

Win 7 Ultimate 32bit
 
 

I have used and worked on a lot of AMD systems, and Clock for Clock.
Intel just makes better performing processors. But you get what you pay for.

AMD is not bad, they work and are fine on a budget, just not as good as Intel.

You can always find benches that will say one thing or the other.
When it comes to real world uses though, and actually using a system on a daily basis, you pick the one that works for you.

in my case, Intel has always been the best for me. But for others, it is AMD.

Unfortunately, as it goes, you have no idea till you get the system and actually use it for a while.
by then, it's too late to return everything, or it's considered used and you can't take it back.

For this reason alone, I trust Intel over AMD, only because of my experience with many different AMD systems.

And again the devils advocate: the AMD systems I have used and worked on, were not horrible.
And again, they work fine for many many people. But, they are not my first choice.
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28 Aug 2010   #16
thefabe

Windows 7 ultimate 64 bit / XP Home sp3
 
 

Quote:
I ask the Tech here and he doesn't advice for overclocking the CPU which it makes the CPU lifespan less than a year
Maybe if you don't know what your doing and use stock cooling and over volt it. To make a statement like that is just nonsense.
High overclocking when done properly comes with a caution of reducing the lifespan of your CPU but to put a time on it is crazy.
Generally people that are serious overclockers and push their CPU's to the raged edge are constantly upgrading anyway, a stable moderate overclock done correctly will last you till your ready to upgrade.IMO. Fabe
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28 Aug 2010   #17
Tepid

Win 7 Ultimate 32bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by thefabe View Post
Quote:
I ask the Tech here and he doesn't advice for overclocking the CPU which it makes the CPU lifespan less than a year
Maybe if you don't know what your doing and use stock cooling and over volt it. To make a statement like that is just nonsense.
High overclocking when done properly comes with a caution of reducing the lifespan of your CPU but to put a time on it is crazy.
Generally people that are serious overclockers and push their CPU's to the raged edge are constantly upgrading anyway, a stable moderate overclock done correctly will last you till your ready to upgrade.IMO. Fabe
But there is a caveat to that.

Yes, you can/will reduce the lifespan, but this does depend on the hardware and how well it handles the heat. Anytime you are adding more power to something to make it run harder than intended will reduce it's lifespan. If you can keep it cool enough to gain a proper amount of speed worth doing so.

The question to ask yourself......

1.) Is the amount of speed gained worth the extra cost of buying an upgraded cooling system?
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28 Aug 2010   #18
profdlp

Main - Windows 7 Pro SP1 64-Bit; 2nd - Windows Server 2008 R2
 
 

Anybody ever have a normally clocked CPU die on them? (I'm not talking about when your dog peed on it or you forgot the heat sink, just a natural death from "old age".)

I read a tech analysis once that said the normal lifespan of a CPU was about twenty years. Overclocking could cut that in half. Anyone planning to still be using your current CPU in 2020?

By the way, I agree with thefabe that you do need to be careful. I also agree with Tepid - you can easily end up spending more on cooling than a faster CPU would have cost to begin with.
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01 Sep 2010   #19
sanjoseparaiso

Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit
 
 

Woa! Intel i7 950 drop almost 50% price luckily i didnt buy yet for i7 870.

Go for i7 950!
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02 Sep 2010   #20
A Guy

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1
 
 

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