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Windows 7: Processor upgrade dilemma

29 Aug 2010   #1
dorian hawkmoon

Windows 10 Pro (x64)
 
 
Processor upgrade dilemma

My brother wants to upgrade from his x2 5000+ (he has m2ne mobo, 2 gigs ddr2) to a newer AMD processor. His budget is tight, so he wants to make sure that he buys the right one. His choices are:

Ahlon II x4 635/640
Phenom II x4 945

Obviously it would be real good if Athlon II X4 gave good money to performance ratio (decent compression/encoding/gaming performance), rather than Phenom II X4, as the series is at least 2000 Rupees costlier !

Any suggestions guys ?


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29 Aug 2010   #2
Darician

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

The main difference between Athlon II and Phenom II is Athlon II lacks L3 cache. This article from Tom's hardware should help in your decision and weighing whether the extra cost is worth it: Athlon II Or Phenom II: Does Your CPU Need L3 Cache? : L3 Cache: How Important Is It To AMD?

If you're going for saving the most money, then the Athlon II 640 would be the better choice.
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29 Aug 2010   #3
SilverStar

Windows 7 Ultimate 32x
 
 

Phenom II is definitely worth it
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29 Aug 2010   #4
jimbo45

Linux CENTOS 7 / various Windows OS'es and servers
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by SilverStar View Post
Phenom II is definitely worth it
Hi there -- this *might* or *might not* be true -- without ANY reasons as to why you have said its worth it the Post is really meaningless.

Please at least SPECIFY at least one reason why you think this processor is worth it.

It probably is worth it based on the specs but at least post your reasons otherwise the post is just a waste of Internet Bandwidth.

Cheers
jimbo
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29 Aug 2010   #5
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Are you sure he has a compatible socket? The 5000+ is on an AM2 socket and the ones you propose need AM2+ or AM3 sockets.
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29 Aug 2010   #6
SilverStar

Windows 7 Ultimate 32x
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by SilverStar View Post
Phenom II is definitely worth it
Hi there -- this *might* or *might not* be true -- without ANY reasons as to why you have said its worth it the Post is really meaningless.

Please at least SPECIFY at least one reason why you think this processor is worth it.

It probably is worth it based on the specs but at least post your reasons otherwise the post is just a waste of Internet Bandwidth.

Cheers
jimbo
Easy, L3 cache. even though its a small difference, Phenom would perform greater as the process becomes greater. some benchmark results i found from the link above: Benchmark Results: 3DMark, Games : Athlon II Or Phenom II: Does Your CPU Need L3 Cache?
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29 Aug 2010   #7
Solarstarshines

Windows 10 Home Premium 64bit sp1
 
 

phenom II quadcore would be a better choice obviously more power more capabilities

if your board is backwards compatable am2+ am3 good if not your are stuck with the athlon and right now why get a mid range phenom when the 965 blk edition is 20 dollars more then the 945 being that the new hexcore lowered the blk edition prices

Im upgrading soon from a 925 phenom 2.8 to the black 965 why cause no need for hexcore and if i upgrade my board to am3 only i still have choices and wont have to purchase another cpu for along while

think of the long run instead of your wallet you can always be patient and save a little more
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29 Aug 2010   #8
stormy13
Microsoft MVP

Win 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Latest official bios (3001) for that board supports up to the x4 945, and there is a beta bios (5001) that came out the 25th of June that added AM3 support. Go here,

ASUSTeK Computer Inc.-Support-

go through the dropdowns and select the board. You can also see the CPU support list here,

ASUSTeK Computer Inc.-Support-
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29 Aug 2010   #9
dorian hawkmoon

Windows 10 Pro (x64)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by whs View Post
Are you sure he has a compatible socket? The 5000+ is on an AM2 socket and the ones you propose need AM2+ or AM3 sockets.
Yes, he has the support, but he has to flash the BIOS to a more recent one, as Stormy13 mentioned.
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29 Aug 2010   #10
johnny333

xp
 
 
Get 2 more gigs of ram

Have the same mother board I would get 2 more gig of ram first. I have 4 gigs with windows 7 64 bit and works great. If you get a new CPU you will probable need to flash the BIOS. Asus web site has good information.
GB Johnny333
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