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Windows 7: RE: Is Cyberpower Battery Backups Sensitive To Tripping???

10 Oct 2010   #1
montecarlo1987

Windows 7 Pro x64 SP1 & Windows 8 & 8.1 Pro x64
 
 
RE: Is Cyberpower Battery Backups Sensitive To Tripping???

Hello. I have a question that I need your expert opinion. I am needing to replace my UPS battery backup system. I had have an APC unit for 5 years [Back-UPS 725 ES – been discontinued now for some time). The battery is long dead and there was hardly any runtime when I did a power failure test over a year ago anyways. Finally, the battery bit the dust (dead). This battery longevity, as some experts have told me is excellent. Some experts have told me that the wattage rating this old unit is rather low and get a newer one with higher wattages.

I am looking at the Cyberpower CP900AVR UPS - 900VA/560W AVR 8-Outlet RJ11/RJ45/Coax Tower EMI/RFI USB as a replacement. [Website:</SPAN> http://www.amazon.com/Cyberpower-CP900AVR-UPS-900VA-8-Outlet/dp/B000ARA51C/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1285805199&sr=1-1] I like this because this unit has TWO (dual) 12 V batteries. This will give me a slightly longer runtime. I am also looking at the APC Back-UPS RS
Power-saving Back-UPS Pro 1000 - APC Back-UPS RS, 600 Watts / 1000 VA,Input 120V / Output 120V. [Website: http://www.amazon.com/APC-BR1000G-Output-Power-Saving-Back-UPS/dp/B0038ZTZ3W/ref=sr_1_4?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1286687746&sr=1-4 ] I THINK this newer version of APC has a dual 12 V batteries as well. Both this battery backups are very good units.

Now, I am told that the Cyberpower CP900AVR UPS has an issue reported by someone that their unit trips when a print from a color laserjet printer is executed. [Website: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16842102042&SortField=0&SummaryType=0&PageSize=100&SelectedRating=-1&VideoOnlyMark=False&IsFeedbackTab=true#scrollFullInfo ]The user notes the color laserjet printer is not directly plugged into the Cyberpower battery backup system, but plugged into the same wall outlet (different plug). Now, THIS IS MY SETUP WITH POWER WIRING for my B&W laserjet printer. NOTE: I do not have another wall outlet IN THE SAME ROOM to use to plug into for the laserjet printer, so I have to use this same outlet but different plug. Now before I buy the Cyberpower, this could happen to me once I have my computer tower and monitor connected the Cyberpower and the laserjet connected to another wall outlet plug? Is the Cyberpower so sensitive? Is there something I am overlooking why this happens? I have never had this issue of tripping with the now APC dead battery unit. In your honest opinion, what way should I go between these two battery backup units? Please provide some reasons as well.

NOTED: These are your opinions, so you’re not held of any responsibility.

Please reply.

Thank you!


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10 Oct 2010   #2
DocBrown

Win7 Enterprise, Win7 x86 (Ult 7600), Win7 x64 Ult 7600, TechNet RTM on AMD x64 (2.8Ghz)
 
 

I have had bad luck with cyber power units Good luck with APC units

There is a battery company in Yuma, AZ on the internet that sells most replacement batteries for back-up units. I just don't have the name at home with me right now.
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10 Oct 2010   #3
LiquidSnak

W7 Professional x64
 
 

Are you talking about Power Quality, Inc?
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10 Oct 2010   #4
DocBrown

Win7 Enterprise, Win7 x86 (Ult 7600), Win7 x64 Ult 7600, TechNet RTM on AMD x64 (2.8Ghz)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by LiquidSnak View Post
Are you talking about Power Quality, Inc?
Yes, I think that was it.

Thanks
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10 Oct 2010   #5
LiquidSnak

W7 Professional x64
 
 

We went through them when I was in 29 Palms for all our UPS when a few went bad. All APC units, 2-3 years old. Batteries tend to not last very long in the sandy hot wastes.
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10 Oct 2010   #6
ccatlett1984

 

If by "tripped" you mean kicked into battery mode, then thats a issue with the circuit that the ups and printer are plugged into. When a color laserjet prints it draws a large amount of current (amps) to heat up the fuser, if the circuit that the devices are plugged into is not sufficient, the ups will do its job. It will bump up the voltage to the devices attached to it, so they don't get a drop due to the in-rush the printer needs. This is what the ups is supposed to do, protect the attached devices from over/under-voltage.
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12 Oct 2010   #7
montecarlo1987

Windows 7 Pro x64 SP1 & Windows 8 & 8.1 Pro x64
 
 

Thank you for your replies.
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12 Oct 2010   #8
Tepid

Win 7 Ultimate 32bit
 
 

Which I believe is also why they say not to hook up a laserjet printer to a consumer grade UPS.
I'tll kill em quick.

What i heard anyway.

I take that back, I heard never to hook up printers to UPS's as it does wear them out quick.
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12 Oct 2010   #9
montecarlo1987

Windows 7 Pro x64 SP1 & Windows 8 & 8.1 Pro x64
 
 

Hello. Thanks for your responses. I was about to close this question, but on the last response by Tepid, I see there is misinformation regarding this issue. And yet it is my fault because this same poster posted his review on Amazon.com and the write-up is a better informed compared on his statement I provided in the link above – I didn’t show you or linked the Amazon.com posting which sheds a slightly different light compared the link I in my original posting above.

This poster’s Amazon.com review link is:http://www.amazon.com/review/R3P3W6I2SVMFLP/ref=cm_aya_cmt?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B000ARA51C#wasThisHelpful

Let me correct you (and again it is not your fault). According to posting in the link I added in my original post above, he states: "(The printer wasn't plugged in to the UPS, but to a surge protector plugged into the same AC panel.)" The confusing part of this post is the last part, “…plugged into the same AC panel”. You “MAY” tend to believe the laserjet is plugged into the UPS via the surge protector. NO! The unit was not plugged into the UPS AT ALL. I knew this originally. The laserjet WAS plugged into the AC WALL OUTLET! I knew this right along, but didn’t realize that: 1. He stated this differently in my original posted link above I gave you (because he did state the “wall outlet” as I read this review on Amazon.com FIRST before his link review above. When I read his posting in my original posted link above, I thought he meant wall outlet in my mind since I knew he talked about the WALL OUTLET on the Amazon.com review, but he tends to be vague in the link of my original post.), and 2. You were thinking based on the statement he made in my original posting link above – which now after reading it makes sense how YOU see it -- the laserjet is plugged into the UPS via the surge protector. Sorry. I should have provided the Amazon.com link instead to better clarify better what the poster meant.

However, I would "think" that the unit "may" be damaged from the laserjet IF it WERE PLUGGED INTO IT. I am not sure.

The poster also made comment to address that, "...but after connecting an APC UPS I never have the issue.". This is interesting. So it cannot be the wiring issue of the building he is in because it should trip APC UPS unit too.

So, like I said, this is my electrical wiring arrangement and hardware situation much like this posters. My laserjet is NOT plugged into the UPS, but into the same WALL OUTLET (different plug) as the UPS. I am wondering if there is something with the CyberPower's unit is more sensitive in some way.

Please reply.

Thank you!
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12 Oct 2010   #10
Mark Phelps

Win7 Pro 32-bit, Win8 Pro 32-bit
 
 

Just went through two APC units -- after a little ove a year each.

However, in BOTH cases, APC replaced them -- the only cost being the charge to ship the old units (WITHOUT the batteries) back to them. Think that came to around $20 each.
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